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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[tack så mycket]

Cool, except he wasn't there illegally. He applied for asylum and was granted leave to remain, at that point he became a legal migrant. Talking about illegal immigration crackdowns is misdirection, the crackdowns need to be on legal migration and especially asylum.

Yes exactly, I'm immediately suspicious when politicians start talking about getting the illegals out as if it'll make any difference. The overwhelming majority of migrants wreaking havoc in Western countries are here perfectly legally, and that's what needs to be changed ASAP. They have no right to be here and we have no obligation to tolerate their savagery.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Yes exactly, I'm immediately suspicious when politicians start talking about getting the illegals out as if it'll make any difference. The overwhelming majority of migrants wreaking havoc in Western countries are here perfectly legally, and that's what needs to be changed ASAP. They have no right to be here and we have no obligation to tolerate their savagery.

The same 'rights' that they are here on are the same rights that let me say nigger online. Yet for some reason that part of the human rights get left out and those are fine to ignore but don't you fucking dare question the rest of it.

 

[Smyrna]

Carns has gone.

UPDATE: The Times reports that Rachel Hopkins, another PPS at Defence, has also resigned, which makes it 4.

 

[GratsTheat783]

Victim is deaf, lost his left eye and is blind in the right eye.

In extreme cases like this, do they actually have ways of helping? He can still smell and touch for what it's worth, although it would be next to impossible to communicate solely from that. It's genuinely sad and horrifying what happened to him so I hope there's something that can be done for him.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

Carns has gone.

Sorry low quality, full below and emphasis mine- it is brutal.

Prime Minister

It has been the privilege of my life to serve this country, first in uniform and then in government.

I have said that there are issues facing this Department that do not lend themselves to easy answers, and that there needs to be agreement throughout the government about the scale of the challenges we face. It has become clear to me that the change I had pushed for is not going to come. Given the situation, I have decided to resign as Minister for the Armed Forces.

We face a more unstable and dangerous world than at any point in recent decades, and having spent most of my adult life in uniform, I understand what public service in such a moment demands.

It is for this very reason I cannot continue.

I have watched, as a Marine, what war looks like now. I have spoken to those who have seen it up close in Ukraine. The lesson is uncomfortable and it is unambiguous. The character of conflict is changing faster than our procurement can keep up with. We are still purchasing capability suitable for the last war while our adversaries arm for the next one. Platforms that cost billions can be defeated by systems that cost thousands. Any serious Defence Investment Plan has to start from that reality.

While I had no hand in the Defence Investment Plan, that distance does allow me to say plainly that it is not built for the threat we face. It is neither transformative enough nor sufficiently funded. We are asking our Armed Forces to operate in a more dangerous world on a budget written for a calmer one.

I have sat in the rooms, seen the assessments, and spoken to the commanders who will be asked to do more with less, and I cannot in good conscience stand at the dispatch box and defend a level of investment I know to be inadequate to the task. A serious country funds its defence to meet the threat it actually faces, not the threat it wishes it faced.
The same instinct, that serious problems can be managed rather than faced, runs through the Northern Ireland Legacy Bill. I have worked to fix the Bill from the inside, but it remains unfit for purpose. It risks failing the very veterans it claims to protect. Men and women I served with, those I buried friends alongside, people who did their duty under conditions most individuals in Westminster will never have to imagine.

I set out the changes I believed were necessary, and the lines which I could not in good conscience go beyond. Those lines have not been accepted. I have run out of room to argue this case honourably from inside government. A serving minister cannot ask fellow veterans to trust a process he no longer trusts himself.

These two failures are the same failure. We ask soldiers to fight for this country. In return, we owe them the kit to do the job and the loyalty to stand by them when it's done. We are failing on both.

The same failure of seriousness runs through how this country treats the people it asks the most of, in uniform and out of it.

Too many working people in this country feel insecure even when they are doing everything right.

They work hard, contribute, pay their taxes, and still feel one setback away from trouble. Public confidence in our institutions is weakening, and politics increasingly looks performative while everyday life gets harder.

The machinery of government itself has been left to decay. Decisions that should take days, take months. Departments fight each other instead of the problem. Officials and ministers who know the truth are not always rewarded for telling it. We are trying to govern a more dangerous world with processes designed for a calmer one, and the gap is now showing in the things that matter most.

National resilience is about more than defence in the narrow sense. A strong country is not simply one with capable armed forces. It is one where working people feel economically secure, public services function, energy is resilient, communities are stable, and young people can see a future worth working towards.

If my resignation accelerates the transition towards resolution, then the impact will far outweigh the act. We need a new way of governing and we need it now.

For my own part, I will keep arguing for a politics rooted in resilience, seriousness, and national renewal. For a country where working people can once again feel secure about the future. And for the service personnel and veterans this government still has a duty to.

The deal this country makes with the people who serve it, in uniform, in classrooms, on building sites, is broken. I'm going to spend my time on the backbenches trying to fix it.

I'll keep fighting for the people I served with. I hope this government will too.

Yours sincerely,

Al Carns DSO OBE MC MP
Member of Parliament for Birmingham Selly Oak

pure schizo moment, this line here > ''A strong country...is one where... energy is resilient' is a line almost directly from the Restore energy policy. Am I going crazy? what the fuck is going on in the MoD?

 

[Smyrna]

pure schizo moment, this line here > ''A strong country...is one where... energy is resilient' is a line almost directly from the Restore energy policy. Am I going crazy? what the fuck is going on in the MoD?

For all of Labour's failings, there is a widespread private acknowledgement (which Carns hints at here) within the PLP that the Windmill Pervert's fixation is doing more to fuck the country than every other policy combined, but Starmer isn't powerful enough to sack him.

 

[Mussolini’s Merkin]

The same failure of seriousness runs through how this country treats the people it asks the most of, in uniform and out of it.

Too many working people in this country feel insecure even when they are doing everything right.

They work hard, contribute, pay their taxes, and still feel one setback away from trouble.

Very well put by Carns. Herr Kier will pay it no mind of course.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

can someone post one of those 'nothing ever happens' chudjacks please

 

[Scale Smerch]

Wheelie bin nationalism is in full force. We can't get this in Birmingham because our fucking bins still aren't being collected.

Learning about the Brit love for bin-based violence during protests/riots has been funny because it reminded me of this wonderful tool introduced during WW2:



The AVRE was a 230mm mortar which in the above example was mounted on a Churchill heavy tank. The key here is that the mortar rounds were called Flying Dustbins by the troops. The love of bins under velocity has always been a British pastime is appears

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

Flying Dustbins

unrelated pic from belfast a couple nights ago

 

[BongoMongo]

unrelated pic from belfast a couple nights ago
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I don't think you have mate.

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

It's a government IT project. If it gets off the ground in twice the time they've allotted and for less than three times the original budget, it'll be an astounding success.

Don't forget that half the data it relies on will be ran through a program from 2003 that looks like it's from 1983, and the entire system will crash without it. Government IT works are full of the technological equivalent of load-bearing drywall.

 

[Turbo Sperg]

At this rate, given the timing? It would have been the Daleks joining in with the Whites to try and purge the poor widdle ethnics from the Yookay, only for the Daleks to turn on the White British for being too evil for even the Daleks to stomach.

And then it ends with the Daleks befriending Doctor W'Homogwegnogwngwe because even the evil Daleks realise targeting minorities is bad and they all have a big piss orgy to celebrate.

 

[Ahriman]

I suppose this belongs here.

https://x.com/japan_nobunaga/status/2064727889388703850

Brits, your response?

 

[Betonhaus]

How long will it take for the riots to spread to the rest of the UK and Ireland? I’m sure eventually some Muslim or paki gang in Birmingham or somewhere won’t make the distinction between NI and where they are and begin retaliatory attacks.

 

[SchizoDaemon]

How long will it take for the riots to spread to the rest of the UK and Ireland? I’m sure eventually some Muslim or paki gang in Birmingham or somewhere won’t make the distinction between NI and where they are and begin retaliatory attacks.

I am part of the "nothing ever happens" gang. Most Brits outside of large cities are never exposed directly to any of this.

I suspect lots of smaller-level protests and riots pretty much forever. You are going to have a large divide between the city and everywhere else.

I suppose this belongs here.

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https://x.com/japan_nobunaga/status/2064727889388703850

Brits, your response?

What do you expect us to say? He is 100% right, there needs to be a bunch of reversals in policy.

It is worth listening to the many podcast appearances Dominic Cummings did a couple of years ago (these can be found easily on YouTube). He is the only insider that I know of that has spoken about how broken it is.
He goes over how ineffective Whitehall is. He also goes over how Boris Johnson didn't understand what power he had as the leader of the country, which means Starmer may not understand it either.

The most telling was when Dominic Cummings recounted he had organised for a bunch of medical supplies to be flown over from China during COVID as the NHS was going to run out in less than 2 weeks, and he believed that people would die if it wasn't sorted out. All supplies had to be shipped by law for some bizarre legal reason. He went to the relevant people in government (IIRC) to get everything organised and sorted. Dominic told them that all legal issues had been covered off by Boris himself. Guess what? The people that he spoke to didn't do anything for 3 days. He had to threaten them with being fired immediately if it wasn't sorted. That tells me that they literally do not care if people die because of their inaction.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Brits, your response?

My response is nigger look at fucking Belfast. You know that a nigger tried to behead someone but didn't see the fallout?

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

https://x.com/japan_nobunaga/status/2064727889388703850
Brits, your response?

Given I am currently using an anime profile pic I consider myself qualified to say that Mr "Japan Nobunaga" with his anime profile is almost certainly lying his ass off about being Japanese.

My second point would be that the Yakuza engaged in some fairly horrific trafficking of women to every customer that had the cash to do so and the wider Japanese community stood there and took it because, much like the UK's rape gangs, politicians, media and law enforcement were on the side of the criminals rather than the victims. Meaning the claim that even a single case in Japan would have seen nation wide outrage and course correction is complete horse shit.

Any further questions? Try not to dig up too many anime profile posters from social media for those, most of them are currently screaming about the injustice of Kamelo's trial or compiling a list of why JK Rowling should be raped for denying women like them access to the female changing room.

 

[diroama]

Brits, your response?

Do they still do that weird pixellated porn thing

 

[BongoMongo]

@SchizoDaemon : that's because a lot of people believed, rightly that coof was a nothing and Cummings has form for histrionics and completely overreacting. That weapons grade spastic cranks one out to the thought of "The Big One" and was tossing himself into a frenzy over foot and mouth. He destroyed lives with that and thought he would be vindicated with coof, he was fucking gagging for it to be more serious than it was.

He's a liar, who lies and people have stopped believing him.