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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[draggs]

The conventional wisdumb seems to be taking shape that Queer won't make it to the end of next week. The way Labour's losses are looking to be even greater than the pre-election alleged worst case scenario, I'm wondering if he's going to make it to the end of today

 

[Monopolywheel]

When do we hear about Rupert? All the news sites in the UK seem indecipherable.

You shouldn't expect much from Restore
They only had like 10 candidates standing

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

The Greens are putting the mentally handicapped into politics.

Of course, who wouldn't want to vote for this over a huyte man?

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

This is the second time tonight I've heard the BBC mention a "Labour HOLD" in Wigan.

They couldn't possibly have fucking lost it you idiots. Only a third of the seats were up for grabs. Labour lost almost all of those to Reform. But it's meaningless to talk about a "Labour HOLD" when no other outcome could have occurred.

Wigan remained a Labour stronghold during the post Brexit electoral kicking they got, along with any other of those the BBC would be pointing them out. Even though, as your said, it was actually impossible for Reform to take those seats.

Speaking of the talking heads are already discussing how Labour need to pivot more to the Left despite that fact that against Reform they've lost 191 of 239 seats they defended. The Greens and the Lib Dems (the "left"er parties on the ballot) have gain a total of 61 seats so far with no breakdown on who they gained them from.

I found this site seething about Restore claiming the candidates are hiding their affiliation despite their examples stating it.

https://archive.ph/B9UWC

Restore Britain, the far-right political party headed by ex-Reform MP Rupert Lowe, is putting forward 13 activists as candidates in one area up for election this May. But all of them are being presented to voters as ‘independents’.
In England, there is no legal duty to disclose if you are a member of a political party when standing for election – nor any bar to running as an ‘independent’ even if your party has officially endorsed you.
The nascent party in Sheffield announced last week that it has been ‘busy, busy, and BUSY’ and that ‘we have 13 Independent Candidates for you’, with several of them posting person introductions via the page.
None of the independents standing with the backing of Restore Britain appear to have recorded an affiliation with the party on their nomination documents, though the ‘Restore Britain – Sheffield’ page has listed statements by some of them endorsing the party and stating their intention to run as independent candidates.
Some have identified themselves as members of Lowe’s party in statements online, whereas others seem less public about their affiliation with the party which backs mass deportations and whose leader has said “millions” of migrants living in Britain “will have to go”.

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‘Aligned with Restore​

A candidate statement on the website WhoCanIVoteFor describes Restore-backed Josh Darling as an ‘Independent’, adding: “We need somebody truly outside the establishment.” Restore is not mentioned. However, Darling’s X account refers to him as an ‘Independent candidate for Shiregreen & Brightside” and ‘Restore Party Member.’
In one post on Restore’s Sheffield page, Craig Myers describes himself as “Independent Candidate for the Beighton Ward (Aligned with Restore Britain)”.
Another, Ronnie Corbett (described in a Restore Sheffield Facebook post incorrectly as ‘Ronnie Barker’) similarly refers to himself as a ‘Restore Britain member’ standing as the ‘Independent Candidate for The Mosborough Ward’.

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One of the candidates, David Cronshaw, has also stated that the would-be councillors, if elected, will switch parties, writing in a Facebook post on 7th April: “It perhaps goes without saying all our candidates are members of Restore Britain!”
He added: “Subject to them gaining the majority of votes off [sic] constituents in the Wards they are to represent and them winning in the Local elections and then passing the subsequent vetting procedures our people would move from being Independent Councillors to represent the Party itself…So if you like and agree with what Rupert Lowe and Restore Britain are saying, you need to ensure you look out for the independent candidate in your areas.”
Byline Times has contacted Restore Britain for comment.

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The Party With No Name​

Restore Britain has not formally nominated any candidates in this mega-round of elections, according to data from Democracy Club, though ten ‘Great Yarmouth First’ candidates – in Rupert Lowe’s home patch – are endorsed by the national party.
The party’s registration with the Electoral Commission was confirmed on 20th March, giving it nearly three weeks to nominate candidates before the 9th April deadline. However, leader Rupert Lowe announced on 1st April that his party would not field candidates under its own name in May’s local elections.
Electoral Commission filings also reveal the party has registered assets of £2,597,825.88 – a considerable sum for a new party with no electoral victories as yet.
All of its current 18 councillors have been secured through defections from already-elected councillors – including seven disgruntled or suspended former Reform councillors who recently formed a bloc in Kent.

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Disguised Affiliations​

Alex MacKinnon, a researcher at Hope Not Hate, told Byline Times: “While Restore Britain is not running any candidates under the official party title, there are several Independent candidates who are running in affiliation with them as members. Subsequently, candidates can disguise their extreme affiliations and seem more appealing to voters, while still reaping the benefits of partnering with a political party.”
“Rupert Lowe is by far the most extreme MP in recent memory and far-right figures, including open fascists and neo-Nazis, are vocally supporting his party.”
In an analysis of Restore in February, Hope Not Hate claimed the team around Lowe is “even more radical” than he is, with key outriders for the party openly advocating for “remigration” – forced, mass deportations of those here in Britain legally.
That month Lowe claimed that the party had 70,000 members, “which would make it considerably larger than the British National Party at its height,” Hope Not Hate says.
“If he keeps the extremists inside the tent, Restore could become the largest organised force on the extreme right in decades. However, a party visibly packed with fascists is easy to attack and isolate, and its ceiling would likely be low,” the group added.
It is possible that the electoral ceiling for such a party will be higher if they don’t actually run candidates in their own name.
Jeremy Corbyn’s left-wing Your Party is also backing a swathe of ‘Independent’ candidates in the May elections, with 22 identified as “Your Party backed Candidate” on the party’s website. Another 20 or so will be identified as official Your Party candidates on the ballot paper itself.

 

[anklyscr]

Greens you say?

 

[BongoMongo]

Are they called the greens because all the people they have standing look like actual fucking cabbages?

 

[diroama]

Too early to draw any conclusions but I get the feeling the Greens aren't seeing the gains they expected.

This is like Corbynism all over again (because it is Corbynism all over again): mistaking loud activism for public support.

I hope this is replicated in Scotland and continues everywhere else. I fucking hate the Green Party.

 

[Fun Factory]

This is like Corbynism all over again (because it is Corbynism all over again): mistaking loud activism for public support.

Cf. Stewart Lee's line about a friend of his going "Don't worry about the Brexit vote - I've just been to a gastropub in Islington, and absolutely no-one there's voting to leave..."

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

The Bham results aren't expected until this evening but Reform has absolutely dominated in Tamworth (winning every seat) and Dudley. Labour lost Redditch. The bham Mail had this to say (mobilefagging and theres no quote box)
"Significant gains are expected for Reform UK while it could also prove to be a good night for the Greens."
The use of "it could" really tickles me. Reform is a certainty and Green is a cope.
Imho there will be a feedback loop of
Reform win > Leftists and pakis go crazy > more attacks and demonstrations that affect normal people > Reform keep winning.

 

[the printer is outo fink]

Too early to draw any conclusions but I get the feeling the Greens aren't seeing the gains they expected.

This is like Corbynism all over again (because it is Corbynism all over again): mistaking loud activism for public support.

I hope this is replicated in Scotland and continues everywhere else. I fucking hate the Green Party.

I'd love to see a breakdown of Green successes/failures based on how their 'normal' candidates fared compared to their collection of transwomen. They've been courting muslims, who obviously aren't going to vote for obvious transvestites, but Britain is called terf-island for a reason. The middle-class, middle-aged women are pretty well educated on AGPs, if nothing else, and they hate them. And that would have been a reasonably high block of potential Green voters. Threads on Mumsnet over the last week have predictably hated Reform (and not because they're holding out for Rupert) but they hate the Greens too, because of their tranny support.

 

[diroama]

If the Greens do underperform they will blame it on "the media" attacking Polanski over things such as criticising the Police for not being gentle enough with an armed terrorist. Because of course anyone that disagrees with their Islamotroon politics is an unthinking sheep with no ability to form their own opinions.

 

[Monopolywheel]

0:13

 

[BrainProlapse]

Glad to see Starmer's lot getting raped epic-style, well deserved and I hope it kills the party. Reform obviously did well off Labours collapse but I'm a bit concerned that anyone is voting Green at all - they're actually dangerously retarded.

As far as I know I haven't met any Green voters irl but then again I don't associate with cousin fuckers or hang around outside schools.

 

[the printer is outo fink]

A few big X accounts gloating about how Restore have failed to get any seats. Are they actually ignorant of the fact that Restore only ran candidates in GY, which hasn't even started counting yet. Or is a deliberate tactic to try and get the idea of Restore as a failure into the heads of people who won't look beyond their stupid tweet?

 

[>IMPLYING]

I'd love for there to be some immediate defections to Restore as soon as all the results are called lmao

 

[Smyrna]

A few big X accounts gloating about how Restore have failed to get any seats. Are they actually ignorant of the fact that Restore only ran candidates in GY, which hasn't even started counting yet. Or is a deliberate tactic to try and get the idea of Restore as a failure into the heads of people who won't look beyond their stupid tweet?

A little from column A, a little from column B. Depends on how intelligent the Xeeter is.

Labour have perhaps held up a little better in London and some other urban areas than expected, but have been routed everywhere else. Does it save Starmer? The day is young.

Generally good for Reform so far but there are a couple of blemishes - they completely failed to make any inroads in Bexley, and Hampshire was disappointing. Of particular interest is Fareham district council, which despite having a Reform MP only won one seat of the 16 being contested.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

I'd love for there to be some immediate defections to Restore as soon as all the results are called lmao

As funny as that would be, Lowe has said that they aren't taking any more Reform/Tory councillors to keep the party pure.

Havering to Reform. Turnout in Hackney was 41%. Tories take Westminster which is surprising because Reform was polling very high in the last few days. Does anyone know if there's a live map of councils to go and councils that have declared?

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

Does anyone else think that Starmer is doing a good job? I think that for the safety and security of the country he should remain in power until at the very least 2027. All we need to do is filter more brave assylum seekers into reform held councils and the fascist 'blip' will be no more.

 

[Dethlefsen]

Too early to draw any conclusions but I get the feeling the Greens aren't seeing the gains they expected.

This is like Corbynism all over again (because it is Corbynism all over again): mistaking loud activism for public support.

I hope this is replicated in Scotland and continues everywhere else. I fucking hate the Green Party.

This is why I now assume places like Reddit and TikTok are just botted to death. They're definitely swamped with genuine leftists, but I think the magnitude of engagement is inflated by bots and it doesn't even have to be left-wing actors doing the botting; tiktok/reddit, the activists and the owner of the post all have massive incentives to inflate engagement, it's a symbiosis and I think you see similar shit on twitter with right-wing accounts. There is also probably some foreign subversion going on, as we saw with pro-indy "Scottish" accounts.

Activism is also largely a left-wing phenomenon, because politics is their religion and activism is their equivalent of missionary work.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

Too early to draw any conclusions but I get the feeling the Greens aren't seeing the gains they expected.

This is like Corbynism all over again (because it is Corbynism all over again): mistaking loud activism for public support.

I hope this is replicated in Scotland and continues everywhere else. I fucking hate the Green Party.

I think the biggest problem with the Greens is that they're essentially only really big in pockets in the South, leading to media coverage being much more hopeful that support will remain similar throughout the entire UK. Most polling data seems to be based in London or large cities like that with barely any polls of credibility happening in small towns up't'north. If you're a London based BBC journalist, the furthest 'North' you've probably gone to poll people is Birmingham.

Reform is trouncing the Greens because tiny towns in the North, far South, Wales, Scotland and elsewhere are seeing entire demographics get changed in 5 years or less thanks to assylum seekers getting shipped there because of cheap housing.