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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[pot of sneed]

We've won over the Working Class vote base and forced the Tories into a corner.

What do you mean? The worst of the bunch just shed their blue coats and jumped over to Reform like they had absolutely nothing to do with fucking over the country over the last 14 or so years. The fox jumping into a bucket of purple paint is still a fox.

 

[Made In Wales]

The Torys, Reform, Advance and what-ever the new one is, will have to combine.

I have written ( pen and paper style ) to Badenoch directly saying she needs to dump the Wets of what remains of her party.

The Conservatives lost the election ( labour did not win ) because the Tory wets had influence.

The Wet's are better off as labour and libdem candidates.

Agreed.

The Tories IMO lost for many reasons, not least of which was 'Borisgate' and the events of Summer 2022 post the Owen Paterson affair.

The only good thing the Tories did was call for a GE whilst Starmer was leader - the plan by McSweeney was to put Burnham in charge thinking that Sunak wouldn't call one until Autumn/Winter 2024.

A genius move, in one way - put Labour into power with a leader who only cares about himself, treats his own MP's with disdain, who is a liar, cheat, fake and fraud of a human and then watch it burn.

The 'Wets' also managed to get rid of Theresa May, because they were worried about her becoming Maggie Mk 2.

@pot of sneed Exactly how many of these Tories were blindsided or ignored by the PM's of the Tories though? It's not as if they had the ear of Boris or Rishi - many of them stood down because they would not be listened to by their own colleagues. I keep mentioning that there's ex-Labour, ex-Greens and even a few ex-Lib Dems in Reform UK at grass roots level but oh no, nobody wants to mention that here...

 

[HairyBadger]

What do you mean? The worst of the bunch just shed their blue coats and jumped over to Reform like they had absolutely nothing to do with fucking over the country over the last 14 or so years. The fox jumping into a bucket of purple paint is still a fox.

These are all politicians, trust none of them.
Figure out why they have jumped ship, what is in it for them, and what they are saying and have said for the last 10 years.

 

[HairyBadger]

Agreed.

The Tories IMO lost for many reasons, not least of which was 'Borisgate' and the events of Summer 2022 post the Owen Paterson affair.

The only good thing the Tories did was call for a GE whilst Starmer was leader - the plan by McSweeney was to put Burnham in charge thinking that Sunak wouldn't call one until Autumn/Winter 2024.

A genius move, in one way - put Labour into power with a leader who only cares about himself, treats his own MP's with disdain, who is a liar, cheat, fake and fraud of a human and then watch it burn.

The 'Wets' also managed to get rid of Theresa May, because they were worried about her becoming Maggie Mk 2.

@pot of sneed Exactly how many of these Tories were blindsided or ignored by the PM's of the Tories though? It's not as if they had the ear of Boris or Rishi - many of them stood down because they would not be listened to by their own colleagues. I keep mentioning that there's ex-Labour, ex-Greens and even a few ex-Lib Dems in Reform UK at grass roots level but oh no, nobody wants to mention that here...

May was never close to becoming Thatcher 2. She didn't have the balls.

 

[Made In Wales]

May was never close to becoming Thatcher 2. She didn't have the balls.

Quite literally she didn't.

However, there are many politicians of all sexes who fear women in power.

IMO, May was an average PM though many times better than the dickhead in charge - she lacked crucial backing and also she very nearly lost her job in 2017. Getting Brexit done proved to be too much for her.

@Duane Dibbley - I will answer that question when you can provide evidence that Reform UK want to bring this law in - I'll wait.

 

[HairyBadger]

Quite literally she didn't.

However, there are many politicians of all sexes who fear women in power.

IMO, May was an average PM though many times better than the dickhead in charge - she lacked crucial backing and also she very nearly lost her job in 2017. Getting Brexit done proved to be too much for her.

@Duane Dibbley - I will answer that question when you can provide evidence that Reform UK want to bring this law in - I'll wait.

I always thought May was just meh.

I never found anything about her remarkable, or interesting, or worthwhile.

I can't remember a single thing she did.


Edit : The thing I remember is she went on walking holidays in Switzerland and Austria with her husband.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

I will answer that question when you can provide evidence that Reform UK want to bring this law in - I'll wait.

Why do I have to provide evidence? It was a simple question.
I'll make it more fair.

Would you accept a Reform victory if:

It was a Labour coalition
It was a tory coalition
It was a meag-coalition of tory, advance, right wing etc etc parties.
They won but refused to stop migration
Nigel stepped down and a raging raghead took over and wanted sharia law

Which of those would you want and which of those wouldn't you want. Reform are head honcho in any coalition.

 

[Made In Wales]

I always thought May was just meh.

I never found anything about her remarkable, or interesting, or worthwhile.

I can't remember a single thing she did.

She was bland, but even as a Remainer (albeit a reluctant one) she did try to get Brexit done which was almost impossible - we still really haven't 'Brexited' due to the ineffectiveness of the Tories and now Labour who are trying to position us more in favour of the EU than the USA.

Apart from try to get more funding for the NHS, introducing the Modern Slavery Act (which I support as slavery in any form is abhorrent) and having a decent Chancellor in 'Spreadsheet Phil' who left us with a surplus (eventually consumed by Covid) she didn't do that much. Oh, and she enacted the 2050 Climate thingymawotsit as well.

Why do I have to provide evidence? It was a simple question.
I'll make it more fair.

Would you accept a Reform victory if:

It was a Labour coalition
It was a tory coalition
It was a meag-coalition of tory, advance, right wing etc etc parties.
They won but refused to stop migration
Nigel stepped down and a raging raghead took over and wanted sharia law

Which of those would you want and which of those wouldn't you want. Reform are head honcho in any coalition.

I have to provide evidence and sources, therefore I ask kindly that you reciprocate.

If not, I refuse to answer.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

I have to provide evidence and sources, therefore I ask kindly that you reciprocate.

If not, I refuse to answer.

This is not a gotcha. I'm not trying to trap you.

It's my sincere belief, and it's just my belief, that the parties will clump to form coalitions. Does Reform stand more to the right or more to the left?

Are they more likely to deal with labour, libs, greens or with tories, advance and lowe's new party?

 

[HairyBadger]

She was bland, but even as a Remainer (albeit a reluctant one) she did try to get Brexit done which was almost impossible - we still really haven't 'Brexited' due to the ineffectiveness of the Tories and now Labour who are trying to position us more in favour of the EU than the USA.

Apart from try to get more funding for the NHS, introducing the Modern Slavery Act (which I support as slavery in any form is abhorrent) and having a decent Chancellor in 'Spreadsheet Phil' who left us with a surplus (eventually consumed by Covid) she didn't do that much. Oh, and she enacted the 2050 Climate thingymawotsit as well.

I will counter with that I don't think it was totally the politicians fault, but the reluctance of Whitehall and the Civil Service blob to move forward with Brexit.

Should a right of centre party gain control, its first priority should be to regain control of the hire and fire of the civil service.

 

[Made In Wales]

This is not a gotcha. I'm not trying to trap you.

It's my sincere belief, and it's just my belief, that the parties will clump to form coalitions. Does Reform stand more to the right or more to the left?

Are they more likely to deal with labour, libs, greens or with tories, advance and lowe's new party?

Neither.

IMO Reform UK are more Centre than they are 'Right Wing' which is a label applied by idiot mouth-breathers in the MSM.

Whilst the party is run by mainly ex-Conservatives, the actual party machine is Socialist in nature - therefore, there's an interesting balance between Working Class people 'on the ground' and the richer classes at the top - yet there's a respect between the two.

On many policies, Reform UK are actually more Socialist than Labour - the only bugbear is the Workers Rights Bill which the Unions are keen for Reform UK to relent on, however relenting means that they maintain the right to strike even if the pay amount percentage-wise is met and honoured.

I would say that we are definitely more Libertarian than Authoritarian and that we back free markets, free trade and also the right of the individual to have freedom.

My belief is that the Libs and Greens will merge soon if they feel they can block Reform UK off - Polanski is annoying the Ecology movement within the Greens and Davey is not really impressing as leader ergo they need a 'Farage of the Left' if they are going to push Reform UK hard (Plaid are also tailing off and the SNP are treading water) therefore it will be Reform UK v Coalition of the Left.

 

[BongoMongo]

Overheard on the bus:

When you have burning,
Itching
Cloudy discharge,
Rotten fanny
Gonorrheaaaaa

 

[HairyBadger]

Neither.

IMO Reform UK are more Centre than they are 'Right Wing' which is a label applied by idiot mouth-breathers in the MSM.

Whilst the party is run by mainly ex-Conservatives, the actual party machine is Socialist in nature - therefore, there's an interesting balance between Working Class people 'on the ground' and the richer classes at the top - yet there's a respect between the two.

On many policies, Reform UK are actually more Socialist than Labour - the only bugbear is the Workers Rights Bill which the Unions are keen for Reform UK to relent on, however relenting means that they maintain the right to strike even if the pay amount percentage-wise is met and honoured.

I would say that we are definitely more Libertarian than Authoritarian and that we back free markets, free trade and also the right of the individual to have freedom.

My belief is that the Libs and Greens will merge soon if they feel they can block Reform UK off - Polanski is annoying the Ecology movement within the Greens and Davey is not really impressing as leader ergo they need a 'Farage of the Left' if they are going to push Reform UK hard (Plaid are also tailing off and the SNP are treading water) therefore it will be Reform UK v Coalition of the Left.

The Green Party are essentially Comunists and tacking towards Ismlamism.

Watch the upcoming votes, especially from the muslim community vote green.

This is a problem.

[snp rely on Green votes to pass votes ]

 

[Made In Wales]

Overheard on the bus:

When you have burning,
Itching
Cloudy discharge,
Rotten fanny
Gonorrheaaaaa

What's Starmer done now?

 

[EddyRooney]

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He thinks that reform is going to destroy and replace the cons entirely, like the whigs were ages ago. If they do that, and politics remains as plodding and slow as it has been in the past, it makes sense. I think Reform are useless, and have been stuffed full of the cons, so I think it's going down the toilet.

Well, that's put the final nail in the coffin for me. I'm definitely not voting Reform now. They aren't going to change anything. They're just going to continue the trend of empowering our little brown invading friends.
When will the penny drop with these fucking retards ? There can be no attitude of live and let live and multicultural holding hands and singing kumbaya with them. They perceive it as weakness. They are an invading army and Reform will acquiesce to them.

It is an army built for a single purpose.....to destroy the world of men.

 

[HairyBadger]

Well, that's put the final nail in the coffin for me. I'm definitely not voting Reform now. They aren't going to change anything. They're just going to continue the trend of empowering our little brown invading friends.
When will the penny drop with these fucking retards ? There can be no attitude of live and let live and multicultural holding hands and singing kumbaya with them. They perceive it as weakness. They are an invading army and Reform will acquiesce to them.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_5KdNLluRowIt is an army built for a single purpose.....to destroy the world of men.

Sometimes you have to bite your own tongue and vote for least worst option .

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

I'd vote for the ghost of Fred West if I thought he was willing to deport every wog that turned up since 1997.

Reform are a bust, they're riddled with the exact tories who fucked the country into this state in the first place, leavened with a sprinkling of the people who I want deported. Fuck em, I'm voting for whoever I think most likely to give us total physical removal.

 

[Drihten]

Even if it gets nowhere I'd much rather support Restore than Reform, as others have pointed out, Reform has quickly become the bastion of those same failed Tories who have spent the past decade scuppering this country to line their own pockets. Everything else can come later, but what matters now is saving this nation, and Restore right now has the best shot of doing that.

 

[Made In Wales]

Well, that's put the final nail in the coffin for me. I'm definitely not voting Reform now. They aren't going to change anything. They're just going to continue the trend of empowering our little brown invading friends.
When will the penny drop with these fucking retards ? There can be no attitude of live and let live and multicultural holding hands and singing kumbaya with them. They perceive it as weakness. They are an invading army and Reform will acquiesce to them.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_5KdNLluRowIt is an army built for a single purpose.....to destroy the world of men.

We'll see.

One more 'big incident' by the Browns and against the 'wrong type' of people and the pendulum will start to swing the other way.

When, according to GB News, around half of the Muslims here no longer feel welcome and half of them are apparently thinking of moving on (maybe they're weary of Nigel) then there's a bit of hope.

As I've said numerous times here (and been shouted down at for saying) Reform UK cannot change everything on day one and this Zoomer attitude of 'if it doesn't immediately stop I'll whine' doesn't help at all - we have to form a plan beforehand and ensure it can be carried out, yes emergency Acts of Parliament and put the country on a war footing if needed (although when you can fit the entire British Military inside the Principality Stadium, we're more fucked than Bonnie Blue).

This is how I would do things if I was PM:

* The next 'Southport' type incident will be used as reason to start depopulating the UK of the trouble-makers. Anybody seen supporting these people will be arrested, their assets confiscated and they will be sent to the USA if we are short of prison space (big prison industrial complexes in the USA wouldn't object to this) and any Judge seen to be supporting terrorists will also be removed.

* Immediately strike a deal for the USA to patrol our waters and pay them out of the Foreign Aid budget. Any dinghy divers will be shot on sight and the media will be D-listed on reporting.

* Axe the CRAG2010 law (I believe somebody mentioned this on here already) - Reform UK are discussing this in full and what it would entail.

* Quit the ECHR and all the other acronyms and threaten war (even if it's just economic war and tariffs) with the EU if they pipe up.

* Tell people 'this is how it is, fuck off if you don't like it.'

 

[HairyBadger]

I'd vote for the ghost of Fred West if I thought he was willing to deport every wog that turned up since 1997.

Reform are a bust, they're riddled with the exact tories who fucked the country into this state in the first place, leavened with a sprinkling of the people who I want deported. Fuck em, I'm voting for whoever I think most likely to give us total physical removal.

Even if it gets nowhere I'd much rather support Restore than Reform, as others have pointed out, Reform has quickly become the bastion of those same failed Tories who have spent the past decade scuppering this country to line their own pockets. Everything else can come later, but what matters now is saving this nation, and Restore right now has the best shot of doing that.

That is a retarded argument.

I want to suffer because I cannot find a compromise, give me more marxism.

Tory ( Conservative ) , Reform, Advance and what ever the new one is have no choice but to combine to beat Labour, Greens "Independents" re muslims,

This is not a game anymore, this is not a game. The people behind Reform, Advance etc need to start talking.