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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Gregg Turkington]

Trump has done more for this country in one year than the Tories did 14. And he's just one guy.

The Tories haven't been right wing in decades. No one is making phonk edits for BASED DAVID CAMERON.

Yes. And?

The MAGA retard in sunglasses never has anything worthwhile to say and is always uninformed (you jumping to conclusions that some think tank mock-up for DigitalID's was actually official and would be made mandatory is a good example of this).

I'm in a much better position than you. Much better. There is a rifle and a can of ammo standing between me

Guns are awesome! This is something America has over us for sure! However, it seems the existence of guns in America just serves as an excuse *not* to do anything. 'If things get really bad, I'll always have my guns to fight the Government' is a cope to make you feel better. You have a potential recourse which reassures you but 99.9% of American gun owners will just look on as the government does what they want and continues their ethnic replacement. Refer to Waco for the rare examples of Americans defying the US Government and what it results in.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

EDIT: Yeah just saw Community Happenings, it is definitely not government policy. I reckon it's the government floating the idea and seeing if it quells the protests. Tony Blair has been lobbying for it since he was in Downing Street and has made quite good progress towards it. The population is already conditioned to accept convenience over everything else so if this ever comes into force, it will be now.

Nation ID and digital ID is very unpopular with the masses. They don't want to deal with it when they can already use driving licenses or passports as ID. People can see they're using the immigrants as an excuse to push through laws to punish the population yet again. It's really just more petrol on the fire.

I'm not really convinced the data collection in grocery shopping is actually providing them much more than an office of tech bros talking about how amazing they are for noticing people have BBQs in good weather and drink more hot chocolate in cold weather.

It's not about marketing. It's about making a profile on you and telling other companies about your profile. Do you buy lots of ready meals? You're probably eating poorly and stressed so private medical insurance maybe higher. Do you buy lots of free range and pesticide free ingredients and cook at home? You probably drive safer and need lower car insurance fees.

It sounds strange but this really happens. Your shopping tells people a lot about you. The type of tea you drink, the amount of alcohol you buy and what you buy it. It all adds up and then they use that to decide how much you pay for car insurance or even your electric bill in some cases. The system runs way deeper than you think.

 

[Le b0wski]

CalyxOS is fantastic. You can sandbox certain applications to prevent them from accessing any permissions you don't want. If Amazon wants location services on, I think the sandbox just returns dummy data so Amazon thinks it has permission.

While your phone won't conveniently offer up a latitude longitude they might still be able to grab data about the cell towers/wifi/networks the phone is connected with and then it's a bit of a "connected to what we think is the office workplace wifi, connected to the likely home wifi, that's unusual visiting/connecting from another city". I wouldn't view the simple tick box of location data off as a one and done thing given lots of the data they collect is about identifying patterns over time rather than specific geography.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

@>IMPLYING I think they're spitballing ideas, but cannot implement them due to financial constraints and political. They know this is deeply unpopular and practically gives Reform an indefinite win, but also the Tories if Reform fuck up. Blair wants Starmer out because Rayner is the perfect puppet, like Biden and Harris. They have a fetish for installing puppets to install their draconian commie hellscape.

Starmer is stupid for installing these new members because it was at the suggestion of other cabinet members. I know it sounds very schitzo, but I think Blair has moles placed to capture the government.

We know this fucker has been pulling strings for decades now; the guy does not even hide it either. Look at him, he fucking evolved into Palpatine.



Cooper, Streeting, Reeves, and Raynor. I am betting those are the plants. The good thing is that the government has no money to put into these vanity projects.

 

[Crunkle]

Just read through whatever the fuck happened in this thread after I made this post:

After over 25 years of lobbying, Tony Blair has finally gotten his own way re: ID cards (L / A).

Keir Starmer is going to is considering implementing compulsory "digital ID" for all citizens to address illegal migration.

Here's a mockup that Labour Together produced:

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Got a feeling dumbphone sales are about to skyrocket.

The cost to set this system up is estimated to be between £140m - £400m to set up, which we all know means it'll be at least double that.

I did go and edit the post with the obvious strikethrough as it was quoted in Community Happenings and don't want to make it seem like it's an actual thing that is going to happen imminently. Thought the 'Labour Together' reference would've been enough but I didn't count on the American appetite for British misery.

I'm flattered you trust me enough to go and make a Community Happenings post based a 2am ranting post, but please read the fucking links if you're going to put your name against it. I'm a retard from a different country who's up at 4am posting on a gossip forum. I'm not a news presenter and you're not a baby that needs to be spoonfed.

Also, @WelperHelper99 , can we get the postmark on that post removed? It's not that important and will probably be misleading for anyone highlight surfing especially in conjunction with the CH post. Not sure if the person who requested it can do it or if that's a janny thing now it's been done.

 

[Rapesputin]

Humza Yousaf is whining about the ban on supporting Palestine Action having a "chilling effect on lawful expression".

He who lives by the scimitar...

 

[The Crack Spiders Bitch]

I won't lie, though, very jealous of your ability to own a gun. I'll give you that one.

I know people in the UK with guns.

I had a gun at 18 (a rifle) and still have a valid gun license for Victoria (Australia).
Getting a gun isn't difficult, even in the British Penal Colony.
Most of rural Australia has guns.

Or are you going to break my heart and tell me that Hot Fuzz was a lie?

 

[MugolEx]

Here's an idea:

We take everyone in the hotels, and we put them in camps. Cold, damp, horrible camps on 1200 calories a day until they confess their country of origin, at which point we brand them (I'm old school like that) and dump them back on their shithole of origin.

Then raid every last barbershop, takeaway, vape shop etc. and throw every illegal, relative of an illegal or employer of an illegal into the same camps. Riding an ebike while wearing a balaclava delivering goyslop? The camps.

Rinse and repeat and eventually they'll all be gone, either deported or voluntarily because my system is so hostile to those foreigners who favour their own over the British in our own land. Because they can't help themselves, even the most le hecking based our guy sikh will, in a push, favour the worst sikh over the best white man.

No too far off from what tl;dr suggests to do in his recent memefesto video. He literally admits to some of his policies as being draconian as to highlight the dire state the UK is in that these measures have now become necessary.

His suggestions sound like they would actually work. Naturally, this means they will never be tried.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Keir Starmer is going to is considering implementing compulsory "digital ID" for all citizens to address illegal migration.

While I recognise the discussion over this has already happened it's worth noting that even if Stamer's lot don't another lot will implement it. Digital ID is a Holy Grail for most of these wanna be totalitarian states and the best we can hope for in the UK is that Blair drops into Satan's grasp before they come in or a radical political shift I do not see coming.

For the various Americans gloating about this you will follow in my lifetime. Yours will also have your gun rights or lack of them on it.

 

[Le b0wski]

The good thing is that the government has no money to put into these vanity projects.

Blair was really into PFI schemes(council/government borrows millions/billions and pays back extortionate amounts over 30 years), often speculated his private wealth is strongly linked to them. Many think Labour will revive the policy and go on a spending spree.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/25069660.scottish-councils-hit-500-million-bill-pfi-deals/

 

[teriyakiburns]

The online safety bill was being weighed up since 2023, they passed it under labor.

It was passed October of 2023. Labour was elected in 2024.

 

[Vesperus]

Granted, I fucked off some years ago, but when and why did "Right to rent" become a thing?
If I have money, and need space - or vice versa - why do I need the approval of some retard in Whitehall? Isn't that just between tenant and landlord? It's obviously not to clamp down on immigrants, since there's still an increasing fuckton of them, and it's not going to impact income tax since cash is still a thing. Does it solely exist to create government jobs for midwits?

 

[Clem Fandango]

The right to rent thing is (was?) for foreigners. There's a system where they get a code on one of those .gov websites, then they show that to the landlord. My understanding is that it's the landlord's responsibility to check that their tenants are not renting illegally, and this saves them from having to look at their actual passports and visas. It works pretty well in my experience. Not sure why you would need it if you are British, in which case you would obviously have a "right to rent".

 

[Crunkle]

A few horrific morning updates for you all:

Almost twice as many "asylum seekers" are living in HMOs than in hotels.

38k were staying in hotels and 66k were in "dispersal accommodation". These are private rented homes like @Clem Fandango and @Vesperus are talking about. Not sure if this falls under the Right to Rent.

Daily Mail : (L / A)

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The Bank of England is secretly exploring ways in which a UK Central Bank Digital Currency could link with digital ID systems.

Lewis Brackpool has been firing off FoI requests to the Bank of England since June regarding integration between a UK Central Bank Digital Currency and digital ID systems. The bank has refused to process the FoI request under the grounds that public discussion will "inhibit frank discussion" and risk "damaging speculation".

Why would they be spending money on research, planning and evaluation on this if a digital ID card isn't a thing? Clearly they know something we don't.



Twitter (Lewis Brackpool): (L / A)

 

[Trapper]

Nation ID and digital ID is very unpopular with the masses. They don't want to deal with it when they can already use driving licenses or passports as ID. People can see they're using the immigrants as an excuse to push through laws to punish the population yet again. It's really just more petrol on the fire.


It's not about marketing. It's about making a profile on you and telling other companies about your profile. Do you buy lots of ready meals? You're probably eating poorly and stressed so private medical insurance maybe higher. Do you buy lots of free range and pesticide free ingredients and cook at home? You probably drive safer and need lower car insurance fees.

It sounds strange but this really happens. Your shopping tells people a lot about you. The type of tea you drink, the amount of alcohol you buy and what you buy it. It all adds up and then they use that to decide how much you pay for car insurance or even your electric bill in some cases. The system runs way deeper than you think.

This policy assumes everyone is an urban bug with no social connections. There’s tons of rural tight knit communities with people sharing what they grow on their allotment, or their chicken eggs, or having dinner together often. This surely skews the perception created by loyalty cards and whatnot. It’s funny that the people screeching for socialism the most are the ones that wilfully cut themselves off from their own neighbours.

 

[anklyscr]

It's not about marketing. It's about making a profile on you and telling other companies about your profile. Do you buy lots of ready meals? You're probably eating poorly and stressed so private medical insurance maybe higher. Do you buy lots of free range and pesticide free ingredients and cook at home? You probably drive safer and need lower car insurance fees.

this kinda falls down when it's Joe blogs @ the address of the supermarket. use Apple Pay and you get a new account number every time you pair a card or add the card to a new device.

 

[PrimeRadiant]

Guns are awesome! This is something America has over us for sure! However, it seems the existence of guns in America just serves as an excuse *not* to do anything. 'If things get really bad, I'll always have my guns to fight the Government' is a cope to make you feel better. You have a potential recourse which reassures you but 99.9% of American gun owners will just look on as the government does what they want and continues their ethnic replacement. Refer to Waco for the rare examples of Americans defying the US Government and what it results in.

The Judeo-faggot alliance conquered the USA w/o firing a shot. They did so because while conservatives were larping about 1776 commencing again, the left organised for power and kept moving the needle bit by bit.

 

[Delicious Diversity]

I know people in the UK with guns.

I had a gun at 18 (a rifle) and still have a valid gun license for Victoria (Australia).
Getting a gun isn't difficult, even in the British Penal Colony.
Most of rural Australia has guns.

Or are you going to break my heart and tell me that Hot Fuzz was a lie?

Getting a gun in the UK is not difficult. Anyone can apply for a shotgun certificate, and for a firearm certificate (i.e. rifles) you just need to join a gun club. What is restrictive here is more so the types of guns you can legally own - handguns are banned, semi-auto rifles above .22 calibre are banned, all automatic weapons are banned. But you can get semi-auto shotguns, semi-auto .22 rifles, straight-pull rifles of any calibre, and so on. The weapons also have minimum length requirements (barrel and overall length).

Also, some things are not regulated/banned here that are in other countries. For example there are no restrictions on magazine capacity, calibres (mostly), attachments (like bayonets or suppressors) and so on. You may need your license tailored to special requirements for some things though; for example, being allowed expanding ammunition for hunting. Laws also differ a bit across the UK; for example, in Northern Ireland you can get handguns, while in GB you cannot.

The other major restriction is, of course, you cannot routinely carry a firearm around for self-defence. That applies to all weapons (knives, clubs etc). It is also not a valid reason to obtain a license. That being said, under UK law, it is lawful to use a firearm for self defence if you fear for your life. If someone breaks into your house, and he has a knife, and you shoot him in the face, you're going to be ok. The problems come when people do dumb shit like laying traps or shooting fleeing intruders in the back.

Now don't get me wrong, UK gun laws are still some of the most restrictive in the world, and frankly suck balls. But the idea that guns are hard to get or cannot be used to defend your home is untrue. It would be more accurate to say, you are limited in what you can get, and you aren't meant to obtain one with home defence in mind.

 

[The Crack Spiders Bitch]

Now don't get me wrong, UK gun laws are still some of the most restrictive in the world, and frankly suck balls. But the idea that guns are hard to get or cannot be used to defend your home is untrue. It would be more accurate to say, you are limited in what you can get, and you aren't meant to obtain one with home defence in mind.

It's been a while since I looked it up and I am too lazy to do so now, but the rules for the UK seem almost identical to Australia.
Thank you for the detailed explanation

 

[Clem Fandango]

I've found UK gun clubs to be very welcoming. Like pretty much all British clubs they're always looking for new members (especially young people). As long as you're not a dickhead they'll happily share their knowledge and let you use their or club guns until you get set up with your own. And they will be very keen for you to get your own as soon as possible. Once you're a full member, you basically just need a safe in your house for storage (needs to be bolted into a wall, and not removable) and you're good to go.

Be warned though, you'll spend a lot of time cleaning it. So if you're not up for that, maybe try a bow or crossbow for your TARGET SHOOTING (as that is all that it's for).

You can get those repeaters (like Arnie uses in Terminator 2), and large calibres. But as others have said, no handguns unless you're prepared to have one of those with an arm brace permanently attached and a suppressor permanently attached (I think the overall length needs to be 24 inch), but those look cheesy imo. You're better off with a proper rifle.