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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Labour mutiny threatens to bring Keir Starmer down to earth
On Monday evening Sir Keir Starmer will come back to earth with a bang.
From the pomp and ceremony of his Lancaster House summit with Ursula von der Leyen, the prime minister will make his way to parliament to be confronted by his own mutinous MPs.
Starmer may have signed three trade deals in a week and unveiled a sweeping package of migration control measures but for many of the prime minister’s backbenchers this is slightly missing the point.

Keir Starmer: Why I love Eurovision — and my EU trade deal
After Labour’s disastrous local election results they are in a state of ferment over planned welfare cuts, the public backlash over scrapping winter fuel payments and the broader direction of the government. They want Starmer to tell them how he plans to turn things around.

Starmer is reported to be looking again at the winter fuel payment in a move that could increase the £11,500 income threshold over which pensioners are no longer eligible for the allowance despite denials from Downing Street.
At a meeting last week MPs were unimpressed — to put it mildly — when a senior Downing Street aide told them that Starmer’s premiership remains a “work in progress”.
Claire Reynolds, who is in charge of liaising with the parliamentary party, showed them private polling that indicated Labour did badly because Reform UK mobilised non-voters while Labour voters at the last election stayed at home.
“They are our people and they are pissed off,” she is reported to have said.

For many MPs this is an understatement. They are increasingly concerned that despite Starmer’s success on the international stage he is making basic political errors at home.
In particular they are infuriated by the government’s planned welfare cuts, which they fear could prove even more toxic among their voters than winter fuel payments.
A letter signed by more than 100 MPs was sent to the chief whip on Tuesday, making explicit they were “prepared not to support” the welfare reform bill, which is set to come before the Commons in the second week in June.
The total number of MPs is as high as 170, rebels believe, including several ministerial aides who have said they are prepared to resign. Of these, about 60 privately say they will vote against — the rest say they want to abstain.
It means that for the first time in Starmer’s premiership there is a realistic prospect the government faces defeat, despite its landslide majority.
Keir Starmer can’t bask in trade deal glow. He faces battles at home
Government whips are keeping a spreadsheet of names of MPs willing to rebel over cuts to welfare as the list has steadily grown. One senior government source said: “I wake up in the middle of the night thinking about this shit.”
The only saving grace — described as “potentially the flailings of a drowning person as they come up for air one last time” — is that those in No 10 believe MPs are trying to be constructive with suggestions of changes that could be made.
The problem is that the government is unwilling to move. The prime minister was clear that the government believes that the welfare reforms are essential. He goes further in an interview with The Times, arguing that the government has “got to do” the reforms and that if people can work they should work.
There are broader concerns about the operation of No 10. Starmer used his trip to Albania to announce plans to sign overseas returns hubs that would see failed asylum seekers sent abroad.
The announcement has been long in the making, and there have been months of preparations behind the scenes. Starmer believes that while they are not a “silver bullet” the plans could work and overcome the legal difficulties that bedevilled the Conservative Party’s Rwanda scheme.
There was a problem, however. Just a few hours later the prime minister held a joint press conference with Edi Rama, the Albanian prime minister, who was very clear that Britain would not be allowed to host a return centre in his country.
Keir Starmer opens door to EU youth mobility scheme
Albania has allowed Italy to build two migration detention centres, but Rama said that no other deals would be done. Albania’s relationship with Italy, he said, was like a marriage and he would remain loyal to it. While there was “love” for Britain and other countries, they were not held in the same esteem.
In the meantime the small boats issue shows no signs of going away. The levels of illegal migration are already at record levels for the first five months of this year. One senior official said it was “fanciful” to think that they would come down this year, with the government’s “smash the gangs” policies unlikely to have a bearing on numbers until next year. Given the pressure that Labour MPs are under from Reform the prospect of declining numbers at some point next year offers little comfort.
They will be particularly spooked by a council by-election in the bellwether city of Stoke on Trent — which Labour won back from the Tories at the last election.
But on Thursday night Labour’s vote plummeted by 22 per cent, while Reform took the seat with 58 per cent of the vote.
How does Starmer turn it round? The prime minister has ruled out a reshuffle any time soon — it is expected to be after the summer at the earliest — with one senior figure saying that claims that Lisa Nandy, the culture secretary, and Bridget Phillipson, the education secretary, will be sacked in June are “bollocks”.
Starmer is said to have privately texted Phillipson to assure her she is safe in her job.
Instead the prime minister believes there is little to do but focus on delivery. The welfare cuts will be painful — but they will free up money for other areas of public services.
The NHS is showing some small signs of improvement and later this summer Starmer will unveil his ten-year plan which is designed to show voters — and staff — how he will achieve a more fundamental turnaround of a health service that has been struggling for a decade.
He will also keep relentlessly focusing on economic growth — of which the trade deals with India, the US and Europe are critical. He hopes that the signal these send to international investors will help boost the economy and allow Labour to break out of the circle of rising taxes and spending constraint that has characterised British politics since Covid.
Politically he also plans to treat Nigel Farage and Reform as the real opposition. The Tories, he believes, are irrelevant. His disdain was all too clear at prime minister’s questions, where there was a significant gear shift. “A once great political party is sliding into braindead oblivion,” he said.
As a result Starmer is currently working out how best to use a debating chamber designed for two sides to face off to target a third party. Prime minister’s questions could become an increasingly awkward spectacle, with Starmer’s comments tacitly directed at the five Reform MPs sitting towards the back of the chamber.
The prime minister’s attacks have so far focused on Farage’s historic comments about Vladimir Putin. Starmer has accused Farage of “fawning” over Putin, but there is little evidence that the barbs are having an effect. As a result he is planning to return to first principles, with attacks on the economy and the NHS.
Farage has said he wants to raise the tax-free personal allowance from £12,500 to £20,000, something Starmer argues would mean tens of billions of pounds less for the NHS. Farage, he claims, wants to sell out the NHS — something Farage categorically denies. He is also willing to have a face to face TV debate with Farage. “Bring it on,” one ally said.
Over in the Conservative Party Kemi Badenoch, the Tory leader, is attempting to shore up her party. Her success in securing a £2 million donation from Jez San, a video game tycoon, has alleviated some of the immediate financial pressure but politically she is struggling to make any inroads in the polls.
Badenoch has drafted her husband, Hamish, to help raise funds for the party. He is acting as a “proxy” for his wife during meetings with donors, having recently left Deutsche Bank. The role is unpaid.
But there are significant challenges ahead. CCHQ is said to have privately warned that as many as a fifth of Tory councillors who are standing in the local elections next year could defect to Reform or go independent. The claim was rejected by Tory sources.
For now, as they try to turn things around, both Starmer and Badenoch have time on their side with the next election still at least three years away.
But the clock is ticking and unless both Labour and Tory MPs start to see progress the noises off will only get louder.
Bullet point TLDR of article:
  • Keir Starmer faces internal unrest despite recent international successes, including signing three trade deals and announcing migration control plans.
  • Backbench Labour MPs are discontent over planned welfare cuts, the backlash from scrapping winter fuel payments, and poor local election results.
  • Starmer is reportedly reviewing the winter fuel payment threshold, though Downing Street denies this.
  • At a recent meeting, Labour MPs were shown polling indicating Reform UK mobilised non-voters, while Labour voters stayed home.
  • Over 100 Labour MPs signed a letter opposing welfare reforms, with some ministerial aides threatening to resign. As many as 170 MPs may rebel, risking Starmer's first potential defeat in Parliament.
  • Government officials are stressed, with one describing sleepless nights over the rebellion threat. Yet No 10 is unwilling to budge, insisting the reforms are necessary.
  • Starmer’s Albania trip misfired when PM Edi Rama publicly refused to host a UK return centre for asylum seekers, undermining Starmer's announcement.
  • Illegal migration continues at record levels, and Labour MPs are under pressure from Reform UK, especially after a council by-election loss in Stoke on Trent, where Labour's vote share collapsed.
  • Starmer has ruled out a cabinet reshuffle until after summer and reassured key ministers like Bridget Phillipson they are safe.
  • The PM aims to push forward on delivery, justifying welfare cuts as a way to free up funds for other services, notably the NHS, with a ten-year plan forthcoming.
  • Starmer will focus on economic growth and attracting international investment, using trade deals with India, the US, and Europe to break from post-Covid economic stagnation.
  • Politically, Starmer is targeting Nigel Farage and Reform as the real opposition, dismissing the Tories as irrelevant.
  • Plans include attacking Farage’s policies (e.g., raising the personal allowance to £20,000) and challenging him to a TV debate.
  • On the Conservative side, Kemi Badenoch secured a £2 million donation from Jez San and brought in her husband to help fundraise.
  • Despite financial help, the Tories face internal warnings that up to 20% of councillors might defect to Reform or go independent.
  • Both Starmer and Badenoch have some time before the next election, but pressure is mounting for visible progress.
>Starmer calling Reform the true opposition and the Tories irrelevant
Suffah Conservatives, lmao.
 
I dunno, it is Eurovision. Israel is not in fuckin' Europe. It's just like the Israelis, trying to occupy territory they have no legitimate claim to.

While we're at it, Australia is not in fuckin' Europe either. They can fuck off too.
Yeah why not ban both semites from the competition? That would have been true to the Euro part of Eurovision. I never understood why Israel got to join in the first place.
 
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I maintain my "work camps for criminals" solution. 99% of them have their hands in the pot so it's doesn't require any official racial laws* although it's obviously intended for them and them alone.
Just set up a bunch of China style sweatshops and force them to actually do the jobs that native Brits won't.
Hold some giant debt over their heads. Pay them in scrip. Restrict communication with the outside world. The works.
Obviously a lot of leg work needs to be done to maintain this. We need to ensure that they're selectively bred to be docile. Maybe control their diets to facilitate this. We want a balance between strength for manual labour but inability to oppose.
This solution also implies that we can enforce generational debt which is something I deem incredibly dangerous.
I want entire families under this system though.
I also wonder whether we can push a cucked version of islam within the walls where they all worship us. Cut the throats of any heretic.
This system has many benefits:
Nonwhite immigration is now actively beneficial because we can use them as free labour.
People will start self-deporting to avoid the scheme.
We could make lucrative deals with third world countries to relocate their undesirables to a "humane envitonment" and exploit the hell out of them.

All of this is perfect as long as they are never allowed to escape and never allowed to thrive.

*Will still require a complete overhaul of the justice system but we're far past the point where that can be overlooked.
On the other hand, I still want Islam and the like to be stomped out via legislation.
 
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So from chatter online, the letter I have talked about that originally went from 40, to 80-100 is now at least 140. I follow a few Labour MPs on Twitter etc, and they have all confirmed the letter has grown and it sounds considerable. 140 is quite important because it exceeds their majority, and if it is 170, like Implying hehe implies, then 170 is colossal. I believe the 170 figure because the Norf FC Labour members despise Starmer and Reeves, and she is an MP for Leeds...

Reeves is cooked at this point, attacking how banks use their equity and how people save is a sure fire way to fuck with the establishment. Talking with people from overseas, too, this new policy has spooked them. It has been muttered for a few weeks now, and in correspondence with them, they have said they are moving back home. They are not poor either but these new policies have really fucked with the economically mobile. My former boss has said she is ending her CEO position in the fall and moving back to Italy. She has a fortune of 20 million minimum and is hyper liberal. When the super liberal wealthy are leaving your communist hellscape then you're fucked. Osborne was an awful Chancellor as well as Brown but I honestly think Reeves is either REALLY FUCKING RETARDED or a CCP plant (so both).

On the plus side Labour rebellions are pretty rare, but the leader and cabinet tend to be ousted. I think a lot of these MPs actually wanted to make a difference but were overshadowed by a local minority of ideologues, and have now seen what is behind the curtain. Labour have never been a party of independent thought.
 
When the super liberal wealthy are leaving your communist hellscape then you're fucked.
They've been leaving for years, under both parties.
Osborne was an awful Chancellor
He wasn't. He got us out of austerity before any other country. Our prices were harsh, but nowhere near as bad as they are now. He was a slimy, coke-sniffing, posh tosser, but I'll give him and Cameron their due; they did what they promised.
Bonus points, Osborne told the EU (Germany+France) to fuck off, when they cried "gibsmedat" when they tried taking 1 billion Euros from the UK (that we had saved through austerity) because the frogs and krauts pissed theirs up the wall on baguettes and sauerkraut.
 
Embark on one of the largest endeavours of mass deportation ever undertaken in history to restore the White British population to unipolar, supermajority levels, say, 90+%.
Ghana deported 3 million in the late sixties. Imagine what Britain could do if it really wanted to
don’t even like Eurovision. I’d need to be three sheets to the wind to enjoy it, I’m just sick of these protester spoiling people who are trying to at least act like we could be a nice friendly world. I know it’s naive.
To me it has the feel of inviting the neighbour whose been beating his wife over for dinner.

Neither are capable of feeling shame or guilt so ostracizing them won't actually help the situation, but at least you won't feel you're giving tacit approval.

Besides, they shouldn't be in it in the first place. I've no doubt money changed hands on order to allow them to use the Eurovision in this exact manner, they get to pretend they're just a regular country
 
So from chatter online, the letter I have talked about that originally went from 40, to 80-100 is now at least 140. I follow a few Labour MPs on Twitter etc, and they have all confirmed the letter has grown and it sounds considerable. 140 is quite important because it exceeds their majority, and if it is 170, like Implying hehe implies, then 170 is colossal. I believe the 170 figure because the Norf FC Labour members despise Starmer and Reeves, and she is an MP for Leeds...

Reeves is cooked at this point, attacking how banks use their equity and how people save is a sure fire way to fuck with the establishment. Talking with people from overseas, too, this new policy has spooked them. It has been muttered for a few weeks now, and in correspondence with them, they have said they are moving back home. They are not poor either but these new policies have really fucked with the economically mobile. My former boss has said she is ending her CEO position in the fall and moving back to Italy. She has a fortune of 20 million minimum and is hyper liberal. When the super liberal wealthy are leaving your communist hellscape then you're fucked. Osborne was an awful Chancellor as well as Brown but I honestly think Reeves is either REALLY FUCKING RETARDED or a CCP plant (so both).

On the plus side Labour rebellions are pretty rare, but the leader and cabinet tend to be ousted. I think a lot of these MPs actually wanted to make a difference but were overshadowed by a local minority of ideologues, and have now seen what is behind the curtain. Labour have never been a party of independent thought.
It really depends on how performative it all is and how much of it is just is just reactionary bluster. In the article the 170 figure is touted by 'rebels,' so it's either something pulled out their ass as a bluff to get what they want (have the bill pulled, voted against, or have many concessions), or it's a legit number and 70 additional MPs have joined since the letter was sent out on Tuesday. Whether they actually will abstain or vote against the bill is yet to be seen.

Reeves might be cooked but Starmer said there won't be a reshuffle until September at the earliest and to get rid of her now might be seen as kowtowing the rebels. I genuinely, to this day, can't fathom why they dared to touch welfare when it's the main thing Norf FC & Co vote for. Depriving Gazzer — or Gazzer's nan and the missus (she gets the child benefit, only fair innit?) — of bennies will just have him fall back on his other big political issue: immigrants. Maybe Labour had to take drastic action because the Tories knew they were going out so wanted to leave a mess behind as revenge for this.
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Ghana deported 3 million in the late sixties. Imagine what Britain could do if it really wanted to
Kazakhstan also had a good showing of it too. Of course there was explosion in the Kazakh population, but that's explainable by all the foreigners moving out; Kazakhstan is an alright example of why a violent, cruel solution isn't necessarily required. A combination of deportations, self-deportation, and getting rid of incentives for living here as a non-native, the numbers can easily go back to being favourable. (The higher number of Germans is an interesting story, almost as out of place as the Argentinian Welsh)
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Ghana deported 3 million in the late sixties.
Holy fuck how have I never even heard of this, it makes the Uganda Indians look like a package holiday;
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Do we need to import some actual doctors (in alien compliance) to engineer our way out of own migrant mess since it's apparently one of the jobs native bongoloids won't do?
 
At least our Eurovision act can properly sing a note this time, unlike Olly and Mae, god they were awful.
They should get rid of the mandatory pop and let nations send their best musical acts, like when the Finns just completely ignored the rules in 2006 and had Lordi compete.

Then again, the best you guys in the UK have would be the Rolling Stones, which is just sad considering how long its been since they first showed up.
 
I don’t even like Eurovision. I’d need to be three sheets to the wind to enjoy it, I’m just sick of these protester spoiling people who are trying to at least act like we could be a nice friendly world. I know it’s naive. I know that I, as someone who has lots of nice colleagues from all over the world and seeing the absolute best and brightest each shithole has to offer and that’s why I think that, but I am irrationally annoyed at them trying to stop Eurovision. Let the Israeli lass sing.

The Olympics and people trying to reach out and build bridges like that are the sort of people who we shouldn’t shit on. Is it naive? Yeah it probably is but ffs let them enjoy the camp night of pretending we can all be friends.
Maybe in a few thousand years we can finally all set aside our differences star trek style and stop killing each other. Until then, we’ve got Eurovision and the Olympics and musical collaborations and scientific groups trying to work on stuff and could we please stop shouting at them?
A few years ago I was so certain that Ukraine was going to win that I intended to put £300 on it. I was actually of a mind to put a full half-grand on it. For context, I am not mega rich and I have zero interest in gambling and never have. I was that certain Ukraine would win I was happy to put hundreds of pounds on it.

As it happened, I had a few things going on at that point and it slipped my mind that it was Eurovision day until I got back later in the afternoon and had missed my chance. IIRC, I could have got odds of 4 to 1.

Still kicking myself over that. And I hadn't even heard the Ukrainian entry then or since. Eurovision has been political for a very long time. And to be honest, I also am a bit puzzled as to when Israel moved to Europe.
 
I managed 20 seconds. It said the act was from Malta but it was some fat pig with tranny backing dancers with obey or something in big letters. Could have been any of the countries except Britain and Holland (I think we are both past the worst of the pro fatty/pro tranny nonsense.)

Honestly would have made sense of they'd given Is(n't)real 2 entries and she was both
 
I dunno, it is Eurovision. Israel is not in fuckin' Europe.
Well no, but the Eurovision is run by the European Broadcasting Union. Israel's national broadcasting agency has been a member of the EBU - which, despite its name, has members from all continents - since 1957. Lebanon, Jordan, and Egypt are also members (since 1950, 1970, and 1985 respectively), as is most of North Africa, but they all choose not to participate for their own reasons.
 
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