UK British farmers want basic income to cope with post-Brexit struggles - Schemes to replace EU subsidies will not plug gap left by loss of EU subsidies for most farmers

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Campaigners from BI4Farmers have said that they were ‘basically kept afloat’ by EU subsidies before Brexit. Photograph: Jon Lewis/Alamy

Farmers are calling for the government to grant them a universal basic income, saying the post-Brexit agriculture subsidy scheme has left many poorer.

Delays to the sustainable farming schemes put in place after the UK left the European Union, to replace the common agricultural policy (CAP), have meant that in England many farmers have been left out of pocket. The new regime initially suffered from low subscription rates, and the government has underspent hundreds of millions from the £2.4bn farming budget each year due to lack of sign-up.

Scotland and Wales have different farming schemes, and Northern Ireland has not yet set up its new scheme due to Stormont not having sat for two years. In Wales, there have been protests over plans to ask farmers to set aside 20% of their farms for nature and tree planting.

Government projections and independent analysis have shown that the new nature payments schemes will not plug the gap left by the lack of EU subsidies for most farmers. The nature schemes were never meant to replace the CAP payments exactly, and instead are aimed at paying farmers to provide public goods.

Now, at least 100 farmers have signed up to a new campaign group, BI4Farmers, to ask for a universal basic income (UBI) for all farmers in Britain.

The campaigners said that farmers across the UK were “basically kept afloat” by EU subsidies and now risk going out of business. Analysis by the organic farming group Riverford has found that half of farmers surveyed said they may go out of business due to post-Brexit trade deals, uncertainty over farming payment schemes and rising costs.

Jo Poulton, the BI4Farmers coordinator, said: “British farmers are overworked and underpaid but the Brexit process presents an ideal opportunity to change this.

“A basic income for farmers would guarantee an adequate income, improving access to time off and reasonable working hours and making entering a career in farming affordable for new entrants.”

Sustainable farming groups have also shared their support for a UBI for farmers to enable to them to experiment with nature friendly farming methods such as using fewer pesticides without sacrificing their income.

Will White, sustainable farming campaign coordinator at Sustain, said: “Universal basic income could be an important safety net for farm workers and small new entrant growers, providing financial security that liberates them to pursue agro-ecological practices without the looming pressure of financial survival.

“When paired with better funding for environmental land management schemes, UBI has the potential to significantly bolster the agricultural sector’s overall resilience. Looking into radical yet promising solutions like this is essential. We support a deeper exploration of how basic income policies could work in the UK context and are watching this campaign with interest.”

Ruth West, a cofounder of the Oxford Real Farming Conference, added: “Concerned citizens, farmers in dire straits, policymakers and all those who care about a fairer food system should get onboard and help move this practical, doable plan to the next phase.

“BI4Farmers presents us with a golden opportunity for a sustainable farming future. It’s an opportunity we must not miss.”

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post-Brexit struggles

Bullshit. The struggles have been happening since the 1980s and have fuck all to do with Brexit, and the post-Covid shift to major WEF acceleration of plans only made it worse.

The government pushes regulation, taxes, standards and requirements that completely destroy the natural flow of business and market pressures and make farming a complete crapshoot and then the same fuckers complain that farmers want help. It's like how Germany recently had a farmer revolt over the fact the raised diesel taxes while also wanting to cut farmer subsides. If the diesel wasn't as heavily taxed they wouldn't need subsides, but the politicians making the laws and running the system as the types who have never even seen a cow in person and think that electric tractors are a viable alternative.

This push for "basic income" is, like much of the modern british political establishment, a complete and total circus act. Much like Reform is a controlled opposition party this push is a controlled protest where the government is trying to bait the farmers into doing what they want and getting them to be even more under their control.

The solution would be to remove retarded laws and regulations, stop the insane "green" shit push and let the market heal.
 
What system do you suggest then?
In an ideal scenario workers collectives would have seized the means of grain production by now or we'd have vertical stacks mass producing jimothy potatoes or there'd be a non schizophrenic centrally run pricing method at the least.
I'm not a rural peasant however so fuck if I know I just think that if the state wants to pretend it loves free markets and muh capitalisms it shouldn't prop up a a shitty ersatz GOSPLAN with my tax bennies. They should either go all in and buy them out so we can enjoy the glory of the incompetence of gov run food production (they managed fine with coal) or slash the subsidies and let the invisible hand fist us all up the ass already, anything is better than this hellish twilight of artificial life support.
 
I'd much rather give UBI to small sustainable farmers who get up at 5 in the morning to milk cows, work 365 days of the year and garentee our food security, than give UBI to troons to sit on their arse all day and play Mario Cart like California is suggesting.
UBI is a pants-on-head retarded idea that is, in practice, an even worse form of welfare. (I love Milton Friedman, but he was very, very wrong about that.) Welfare programs never shrink. They only grow over time, and they distort and poison healthy market behavior/ participants. Welfare programs are the biggest taxpayer expense in developed countries, and they will only get bigger.

Socialism is always a fucking terrible idea because it only gets you less actual productivity and more government dependency over time. And you want your farmers as productive as possible.

I can't help but think of fucking corn subsidies in America. You know why we have shitty ethanol in our gasoline? You know why we have disgusting high fructose corn syrup in everything? Because some assholes decided to subsidize the production of maize, and now it's impossible to roll that back. Like all temporary and helpful government programs.

Belief in the viability of UBI should be integrated into IQ tests going forward, I swear to God.
 
No matter what the industry is, we basically have a fascist economic system now in Europe and increasingly in the US (although we mutts still have a long way to catch up to where Europe is).
The US is actually more incestuously government-and-megacorp controlled than most of Europe at this point. Small and medium businesses for example make up a much smaller percentage of the US economy compared to most EU countries. That doesn’t mean I don’t think the EU is a hyper-bureaucratic mess run by malicious/incompetent/tone deaf grey suits, though.
 
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