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Maybe because the argument being ridiculous has nothing to do with trans issues?
Brianna Wu / John Flynt - Original Thread
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Maybe because the argument being ridiculous has nothing to do with trans issues?
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"I don't normally address this kind of Gamergate nonsense." Yeah suuuuure you don't Johnny.
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Erik Kain just wrote an article about the whole Samus thing.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...nder-or-not-and-the-world-will-keep-spinning/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...nder-or-not-and-the-world-will-keep-spinning/
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John, you know you're a demagogue and a troll, right?
"The easiest way to restrict the ability of people to criticize you is to make it dangerous to do so. This can be done through passing laws--so that people can be thrown in jail, fined, or sued for saying certain things. But it can also be done through so rousing your followers that they will try to harm anyone who disagrees with you. That is what demagoguery does...." (continued in spoiler)
"I define a social media troll as someone who seeks to lure or bait people into negative, disruptive rhetoric for their own edification or to commandeer an otherwise free-flowing discussion among colleagues. They don’t recognize anyone that may be interested in discussing something that bores them and opt to criticize or yell 'boring' instead of engaging in the discussion. They choose to belittle those who seek the information and discourse as well as those who try to provide it. They simply have no interest in anything that is not self-serving." (continued in spoiler)
"The easiest way to restrict the ability of people to criticize you is to make it dangerous to do so. This can be done through passing laws--so that people can be thrown in jail, fined, or sued for saying certain things. But it can also be done through so rousing your followers that they will try to harm anyone who disagrees with you. That is what demagoguery does...." (continued in spoiler)
"Demagoguery is polarizing propaganda that motivates members of an ingroup to hate and scapegoat some outgroup(s).... It significantly undermines the quality of public argument for reasons and in ways discussed below. In the most abstract, the reason it is so harmful is that it creates and fosters a situation in which it is actively dangerous to criticize dominant views, cultures, and political groups. It makes discourse a kind of coercion, largely through rousing and appealing to hate. Thus, the very people who make the decisions cannot hear all the information they need....
Some people don't distinguish demagoguery from propaganda (which is generally defined as dishonest and fallacious discourse intended to further the power or agenda of the propagator), but I would say that it is a subset of propaganda: demagoguery is polarizing propaganda that functions to motivate people by rousing and justifying hatred of an outgroup. In other words, all demagoguery is propaganda, but not all propaganda is demagoguery....
The following is a list of the qualities that, as far as I am concerned, typify demagoguery:
Some people don't distinguish demagoguery from propaganda (which is generally defined as dishonest and fallacious discourse intended to further the power or agenda of the propagator), but I would say that it is a subset of propaganda: demagoguery is polarizing propaganda that functions to motivate people by rousing and justifying hatred of an outgroup. In other words, all demagoguery is propaganda, but not all propaganda is demagoguery....
The following is a list of the qualities that, as far as I am concerned, typify demagoguery:
- polarization
- ingroup/outgroup thinking, a rhetoric of hate
- slipperiness on crucial terms; god and devil terms
- demonizing, dehumanizing, and/or scapegoating the out-group
- simple solutions
- motivism
- entitlement, double-standard, rejection of the notion of reciprocally binding rules or principles
- martyrdom of rhetor, personalizing of criticisms, rhetor is synecdochic of larger group
- apocalyptic, eschatalogical metanarrative (Holy War, jihad)
- denial of responsibility for situation (except lack of vigilance)
- refusal to redeem claims
- an ethos of sincerity
- heavy reliance on fallacious arguments
- internal contradictions
- tendency toward conspiracy theories
- metaphors of cleansing, disease, and war
- pandering to popular prejudice and stereotype, often racist
- bad science
- anti-intellectualism
- misogyny/ appeal to "traditional" gender roles
- nationalism
"I define a social media troll as someone who seeks to lure or bait people into negative, disruptive rhetoric for their own edification or to commandeer an otherwise free-flowing discussion among colleagues. They don’t recognize anyone that may be interested in discussing something that bores them and opt to criticize or yell 'boring' instead of engaging in the discussion. They choose to belittle those who seek the information and discourse as well as those who try to provide it. They simply have no interest in anything that is not self-serving." (continued in spoiler)
"Are you a Troll? Not sure? You know you’re a Troll if you:
- Display false interest
- Act overly critical
- Argue ad nauseum
- Wage attacks
- Present opinions as facts
- Engage those you don’t like
- Reject conflicting points of view
- Fan the flames in order to “win”
- Don’t allow room for healthy debate
- Act childish
- Love to beat a dead horse
- Possess anger issues
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I don't even know why I read Kain's articles anymore. I could sit on a fence for two minutes and get the same experience.
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@TheMonkeyMan - thanks for sharing that. I thought it was a good read.
"Only censors and tyrants seek to change art to fit their worldview." And they're usually to be found shrieking something about "muh feels" on Twitter and Tumblr.
"Only censors and tyrants seek to change art to fit their worldview." And they're usually to be found shrieking something about "muh feels" on Twitter and Tumblr.
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...Another Vlad avatar? The hell is with that?
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"On the other hand, if you believe that Samus Aran is not a transgender woman and think that she’s a great role-model for little girls, well that’s great too! I personally don’t think of Aran as a transgender woman. I have a rather erotic piece of Samus Aran artwork up on the wall, actually, and it never even occurred to me that she might be a transgender woman, though I also don’t really care if she is or isn’t, or if others do."
Sweet Powerlevel bro
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Brianna Wu dijo:
Fixed that for you.
If you haven't checked it out, I urge you to check out the Trans Samus Incident article on lolcow wiki. Everyone from Gamerghazi to prominent Anti-GGers like Izzy Galvarez, to trans activists to feminists, all calling Wu out on her shit.
Also, I noticed something today. In the last four days, Brianna Wu has lost about 20 patreon sponsors, and now is at exactly 620. Despite losing so many, someone keeps upping their pledges to keep Wu above the $3,000 mark. Every single time it's gone below $3,000, someone has contributed an extra bit to keep it juuuust above that magic $3,000 cutoff point. Not once has it gone below $3,000 for more than half an hour...
Curious, no?
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Hahahaha, another inch forward says the tranny.
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Holiday looks like she's realised she's in Rev60 in the first panel.
Also Johnny Boy totally animated erect nipples for her. I've only just noticed it.
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Shit, how did those rock-hard nipples go unnoticed by all the Wu-watchers for so long? Oh, that's right, R60 has no proper dynamic lighting or self-shadowing entities.
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Holiday's eyes look better in the new version, but her forehead looks worse.
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No that's probably the Ambien.
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I love it when he posts faux happy replies to people who are trolling/harassing him. It might be just me but I can easily imagine him screaming incoherently at the computer when he does so.
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