Brianna Wu / John Flynt - Original Thread

[ActualKiwi]

Why would they keep condoms in the Wu household?

For some sort of twisted attempt at making a joke to garner attention?

 

[Norvic]

Katherine Cross and Brianna Wu have a list of demands for us oppressive cis shitlords. I can't help but see the last point as the most pressing, gib money plox.

Note how Cross is described as trans, while Wu is left in neither confirm nor deny territory.

 

[Cynical]

Katherine Cross and Brianna Wu have a list of demands for us oppressive cis shitlords. I can't help but see the last point as the most pressing, gib money plox.

Note how Cross is described as trans, while Wu is left in neither confirm nor deny territory.

Oh good grief, their points are bullshit, here's why:

1. “Let’s start off with the fact that we are people,” Cross said. “Everything just comes down to that. You can have a trans character without their trans identity being every beat of their narrative.”

Then why do they insist on EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY YOU SHOULDN'T WHEN A TRANS CHARACTER EXISTS.

No seriously, they aren't happy unless they have games where you are constantly reminded if someone is gay or trans 24/7, and bitch if they don't exist, why the backpedaling?

2. The two talked Poison, the trans female character in Street Fighter represents the game industry “one step forward, two steps back” approach on trans issues. Poison is a good fighter and a memorable villain, but she’s also highly sexualized and has even had her trans identity erased altogether, being presented as a cisgender female in later appearances in other games.

“Your worth as a human being is if a cis male is going to objectify you as much as they would a ‘real’ woman,” Wu said. “Cisgender allies, you can do a hell of a lot of good by standing up to this.”

Again. Bullshit. Poison has conflicting trans explanations based on region due to a bad attempt to escape censorship, but the majority of Capcom fans go with the Japanese canon by default, and have these idiots even bothered to see why? They think Poison is hot as hell and over half the reason is because Poison is a sexy and COMPETENT trans woman. Yes, it's treating her like eye candy, but by the same token, she's presented as someone who flaunts her sexuality in canon and thus this isn't inappropriate characterization by the fandom at all. Also, have they seen all the art and doujinshi where Poison has a dick? Shit, Poison was the gateway to tons of tranny chasers, they should be damn grateful Poison was created. They also forgot Poison is a reformed villainess who has gone legit as a respected wrestling promoter, so she's currently a hero who began as a villain.

.....I don't have the patience to debunk the rest of their shit, but these idiots are both trannies and still sound like fools on this topic.

 

[Dr. Boe Jangles Esq.]

Katherine Cross and Brianna Wu have a list of demands for us oppressive cis shitlords. I can't help but see the last point as the most pressing, gib money plox.

Note how Cross is described as trans, while Wu is left in neither confirm nor deny territory.

Well with a pitch like that, how could anyone fail to be persuaded?
Best part:
“In the gaming industry, you can be one mistake away from being thrown away like garbage,” Wu said.
What a scary thought. Remind me, which companies has John worked for that he didn't already own?

 

[Peace and Harmony]

Katherine Cross and Brianna Wu have a list of demands for us oppressive cis shitlords. I can't help but see the last point as the most pressing, gib money plox.

Mostly I love the use of TRUE and HONEST at the end there

 

[Count groudon]

Oh good grief, their points are bullshit, here's why:

1. “Let’s start off with the fact that we are people,” Cross said. “Everything just comes down to that. You can have a trans character without their trans identity being every beat of their narrative.”

Then why do they insist on EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY YOU SHOULDN'T WHEN A TRANS CHARACTER EXISTS.

No seriously, they aren't happy unless they have games where you are constantly reminded if someone is gay or trans 24/7, and bitch if they don't exist, why the backpedaling?

2. The two talked Poison, the trans female character in Street Fighter represents the game industry “one step forward, two steps back” approach on trans issues. Poison is a good fighter and a memorable villain, but she’s also highly sexualized and has even had her trans identity erased altogether, being presented as a cisgender female in later appearances in other games.

“Your worth as a human being is if a cis male is going to objectify you as much as they would a ‘real’ woman,” Wu said. “Cisgender allies, you can do a hell of a lot of good by standing up to this.”

Again. Bullshit. Poison has conflicting trans explanations based on region due to a bad attempt to escape censorship, but the majority of Capcom fans go with the Japanese canon by default, and have these idiots even bothered to see why? They think Poison is hot as hell and over half the reason is because Poison is a sexy and COMPETENT trans woman. Yes, it's treating her like eye candy, but by the same token, she's presented as someone who flaunts her sexuality in canon and thus this isn't inappropriate characterization by the fandom at all. Also, have they seen all the art and doujinshi where Poison has a dick? Shit, Poison was the gateway to tons of tranny chasers, they should be damn grateful Poison was created. They also forgot Poison is a reformed villainess who has gone legit as a respected wrestling promoter, so she's currently a hero who began as a villain.

.....I don't have the patience to debunk the rest of their shit, but these idiots are both trannies and still sound like fools on this topic.

But see, poison isn't "cis" in the modern games, she just doesn't mention it much because it doesn't rule her identity. When she actually does mention being trans in the games it's usually for the sake of a joke (like if she beats a girl character she'll say something about how she's "more of a woman" than who she was fighting). She's a really cool character who happens to be trans, and that's why she's popular. People like Wu or Julie of Gen Zed fame, however, believe that a character can't really be considered a legit trans character unless they wear their gender on their sleeve and base their entire identity around it, which basically just renders them into nothing more than a two-dimentional stereotype.

 

[Cynical]

But see, poison isn't "cis" in the modern games, she just doesn't mention it much because it doesn't rule her identity. When she actually does mention being trans in the games it's usually for the sake of a joke (like if she beats a girl character she'll say something about how she's "more of a woman" than who she was fighting). She's a really cool character who happens to be trans, and that's why she's popular. People like Wu or Julie of Gen Zed fame, however, believe that a character can't really be considered a legit trans character unless they wear their gender on their sleeve and base their entire identity around it, which basically just renders them into nothing more than a two-dimentional stereotype.

Which only further proves how stupid they are. Besides, if it's wrong for transgender people to have their trans status aired like dirty laundry, why do they insist it happen in fictional media? By Wu's own admission, he believes doing that to any trans person under any circumstance is wrong, so why advocate for something you consider morally wrong under ANY circumstance?

 

[Norvic]

Well, when you're Wu and you own ~400 games with a mean play time of something south of 10 minutes, nuanced characters go right over your head. You need the headline figure of how many trannies the game has to just leap out at you, so you know what to say about it on twitter.

 

[AnOminous]

I can't fucking handle this tweet.

Okay, so Brianna/John is about forty years old, and considering her unhealthy lifestyle we can safely bet that she will die sooner than the average person. The life expectancy of someone living in America is about 79 years, but I'll be generous and only knock off about six years from that number. So that leaves mankind with about 33 years in which to go extinct.

The average lifespan of a MAN is shorter.

But then, Wu is an MtF. As we all know, 90% of all trans people are murdered every year, while the other 90% commit suicide every five minutes.

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

Well SRS is a pretty new procedure, we don't have a lot of data on how the large and continuous dosages of horse hormones could effect life expectancy.

Maybe it's the trannies that are doomed?

 

[Cynical]

Wu, being a know it all again:


https://archive.is/arexp

Also:

 

[Florence]

[MEDIA=twitter]676178750837403648[/MEDIA]

Don't dogs do that cause they're being neglected?

 

[Peace and Harmony]

I can't even be mad about John lashing out like a rabid dog at people on Twitter. Either they'll instantly figure out that he's a massive bitch or they'll sit and take it like the cucks they were born to be.

 

[Cynical]

While worry about climate change isn't a foolish topic in itself, belief mankind will be killed in under a century by it does seem far fetched.


https://archive.is/zSycW

Also, Tweetsave seems to be working again.

 

[soliloquyR]

Oh good grief, their points are bullshit, here's why:

1. “Let’s start off with the fact that we are people,” Cross said. “Everything just comes down to that. You can have a trans character without their trans identity being every beat of their narrative.”

Then why do they insist on EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY YOU SHOULDN'T WHEN A TRANS CHARACTER EXISTS.

No seriously, they aren't happy unless they have games where you are constantly reminded if someone is gay or trans 24/7, and bitch if they don't exist, why the backpedaling?

2. The two talked Poison, the trans female character in Street Fighter represents the game industry “one step forward, two steps back” approach on trans issues. Poison is a good fighter and a memorable villain, but she’s also highly sexualized and has even had her trans identity erased altogether, being presented as a cisgender female in later appearances in other games.

“Your worth as a human being is if a cis male is going to objectify you as much as they would a ‘real’ woman,” Wu said. “Cisgender allies, you can do a hell of a lot of good by standing up to this.”

Again. Bullshit. Poison has conflicting trans explanations based on region due to a bad attempt to escape censorship, but the majority of Capcom fans go with the Japanese canon by default, and have these idiots even bothered to see why? They think Poison is hot as hell and over half the reason is because Poison is a sexy and COMPETENT trans woman. Yes, it's treating her like eye candy, but by the same token, she's presented as someone who flaunts her sexuality in canon and thus this isn't inappropriate characterization by the fandom at all. Also, have they seen all the art and doujinshi where Poison has a dick? Shit, Poison was the gateway to tons of tranny chasers, they should be damn grateful Poison was created. They also forgot Poison is a reformed villainess who has gone legit as a respected wrestling promoter, so she's currently a hero who began as a villain.

.....I don't have the patience to debunk the rest of their shit, but these idiots are both trannies and still sound like fools on this topic.

Poison has no real canon sexuality. Capcom's left that up to the gamers.
(And most think that Poison has a dick, resulting in puke-inducing fan art)

 

[Cynical]

Poison has no real canon sexuality. Capcom's left that up to the gamers.

In modern day, at least, where they throw in nods to Poison's trans status in their games on occasion but otherwise don't dwell on it. The explanations for Poison's gender were cooked up when the first Final Fight was created, it differed by region (in America, post-op, Japan, pre-op), and Capcom never bothered to definitely state one way or the other which canon reigns supreme, though either way you look at it, trans character in character.....written well, I might add, as Poison's storyline DOESN'T revolve their trans status and they are competent and prominent in Street Fighter canon for other reasons.

Initially, the trans thing was to dodge the issue of the player being able to hit women (which was seen as bad in the US during the 90s even if they were evil), but the trans part only made it worse in some ways, hence the conflicting trans explanations.

 

[Mimic]

Man if Poison is such a problem, I wonder what they think of Kainé from NieR.

 

[Dr. Boe Jangles Esq.]

While worry about climate change isn't a foolish topic in itself, belief mankind will be killed in under a century by it does seem far fetched.

Someone I have a lot of respect for once commented that one of the hallmarks of stupid people is the inability to contextualize anything that doesn't directly pertain to them or their lives. Climate change is a huge problem we need to address now, but there's not really a huge apocalypse scenario that will occur in our lifetime to make it exciting. Thus, it's something we need to fix now, even though we're not the people it will ultimately screw. Wu can't contextualize this, so she decides to act as though "Day After Tomorrow" was a documentary.

 

[AnOminous]

Don't dogs do that cause they're being neglected?

Indeed. John is too autistic to realize the unfortunate implications of repeated posts like this about animals engaging in destructive behavior because they are bored and neglected.

Of course, John also openly admitted to leaving a dying dog alone outside to die in the cold.

 

[ChuckSlaughter]

https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/climate2-jpg.62956/

Mankind will go extinct in your lifetime, eh? Way to exclude yourself from the human race there.

I know it's already been said but this post single handedly illustrates wu's willingness to talk on subjects she has no fucking clue on. Climate change might do in mankind eventually but the only way it's going to kill us off in our children's lifetimes is to indirectly nudge a more desperate mankind to nuclear war, climate change is more about extinctions due to changes in habitat and not being too fucked to successfully colonize space or sustain the population that tech would allow in 500 years because of stupid shit we did today. Given the rate which global energy consumption is increasing energy shortages and subsequent revolutions and resource wars are a more significant short term threat.

Poison is a good fighter and a memorable villain, but she’s also highly sexualized and has even had her trans identity erased altogether, being presented as a cisgender female in later appearances in other games.

Most of the characters are sexualized especially the feminine ones. What would the reaction be if the trans character looked like a cross between bullrog and chun-li with m.bison's chin? Do trans people really want that? Do men want to play characters that look like skinnyfat pizza faces?