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What are you opinions on GamerGate and Brianna Wu / John Flynt?

  • I am of no opinion towards either.

    Votos: 104 8.6%
  • I am neutral on GamerGate, but think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votos: 631 52.1%
  • I am neutral on GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votos: 9 0.7%
  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, but still think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votos: 112 9.2%
  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votos: 37 3.1%
  • I am PRO-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votos: 309 25.5%
  • I am PRO-GamerGate, but still think that and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votos: 9 0.7%

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I'm confused fellow Kiwis. Wu calls himself an engineer, yet from what I've gathered he completed some throw-away communications degree back in the 90s. Where I'm from, to call yourself an engineer you have to actually have an engineering degree. If you don't have an engineering degree, you're referred to as a technician, but even technicians have to have some sort of formal engineering education.

At what point did Johnny-boy get an engineering degree? Sure a lot could have happened in the last 15 years, he could have gotten his engineering degree when he recovered from mutilating his dick (and turning himself into a eunuch). Is this just Johnny-boy blowing smoke up our asses? Is he that much of a compulsive liar, that he'd actually misrepresent himself as a Son of the Gear?
 
I'm confused fellow Kiwis. Wu calls himself an engineer, yet from what I've gathered he completed some throw-away communications degree back in the 90s. Where I'm from, to call yourself an engineer you have to actually have an engineering degree. If you don't have an engineering degree, you're referred to as a technician, but even technicians have to have some sort of formal engineering education.

At what point did Johnny-boy get an engineering degree? Sure a lot could have happened in the last 15 years, he could have gotten his engineering degree when he recovered from mutilating his dick (and turning himself into a eunuch). Is this just Johnny-boy blowing smoke up our asses? Is he that much of a compulsive liar, that he'd actually misrepresent himself as a Son of the Gear?

Wu has no college degree at all, and from what I gather, all of Wu's higher education was in humanities studies.

Wu can attempt to call herself an engineer, because in software engineering, you don't always need a degree. However, she's never made any significant study of software development, more than a brief few courses as an intro to computer science, so she has barely any fucking clue about writing software, algorithms, or MOTHERFUCKING CONCURRENCY AND OPTIMIZATION, so the claim falls flat to anyone who actually knows their shit.

Edit: this is major pet peeve of mine when it comes to this fucking antigamergate "developers" and "engineers." I'd sincerely love it if they were forced to use actual programming skills to make their polished turds. But that would require more effort than tweeting about oppreshuns or sucking cock, so that won't happen.

*edited to change "no real study" to "any significant study" as @SlenderManBearPig pointed out that Wu's lolcow.wiki article mentioned her starting an Engineering degree and taking an intro to computer science class.
 
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Wu, isn't bragging about how rich you are a sign of PRIVILEGE?

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Also, whoop de fucking shit. Multi-core processors last a lot longer because applications like graphics programs are usually designed to multithread if and where possible for increased efficiency since they tend to be CPU whores, this is not fucking news to anyone who has actually fucked around with this shit since the Pentium 4 onwards.

This also reduces overall stress since the load is split across processors instead of forced onto one core, and so long as you have decent heatsinks and/or additional cooling, you could re do NASA level calculation jobs over a period of decades and have the PC not die on you so long as nothing else goes squirrely in the box since the processors do not incur any appreciable damage at all unless you consistently overload them and the heat starts doing damage to the motherboard/processor chips.

In short, quit bragging, white man, this shit doesn't make you special, it makes you a rich fuck bragging about your toys.
Oh, you don't even know half of it, this proves even better that Wu has no idea what she is doing. Let me give you a car-related comparison that works:
"My 2009 Toyota is so cool! It has the ninth biggest trunk of all the cars Toyota ever made! Y'know, I am moving right now and it would take longer with most other cars."
"Wait ...why don't you just rent a fucking truck?"

I am pretty sure that Wu could use a cloud computing service to take care of most of her rending efforts, in a fraction of the time she needs at home.

Also, this gives me an idea why Wu has so much time to play games: Apparently rendering Rev60 takes a lot of time. The way she talks about her Mac suggests it is the same computer she uses to 'program' Rev 60. And when her machine is rendering, she probably can't really continue her work. So she is sitting in front of her Playstation 4 or Xbox One and passes the waiting time with gaming. She probably calls this "working hard".
 
Lol, who the fuck would use anything but a rendering farm for rendering? That's just pure incompetence, and outside of fan projects and stuff, people don't do it that way.
 
Oh, you don't even know half of it, this proves even better that Wu has no idea what she is doing. Let me give you a car-related comparison that works:
"My 2009 Toyota is so cool! It has the ninth biggest trunk of all the cars Toyota ever made! Y'know, I am moving right now and it would take longer with most other cars."
"Wait ...why don't you just rent a fucking truck?"

I am pretty sure that Wu could use a cloud computing service to take care of most of her rending efforts, in a fraction of the time she needs at home.

Also, this gives me an idea why Wu has so much time to play games: Apparently rendering Rev60 takes a lot of time. The way she talks about her Mac suggests it is the same computer she uses to 'program' Rev 60. And when her machine is rendering, she probably can't really continue her work. So she is sitting in front of her Playstation 4 or Xbox One and passes the waiting time with gaming. She probably calls this "working hard".

Exactly this. For someone just starting out, who isn't able to afford the farm, that'd be what you do, find something else to do while rendering happens (not really supposed to just waste the time with vidya, there are plenty of things an indie dev can do while rendering happens.

Brianna can well afford this, but she doesn't. Why? She does this in order to give herself the indie cred she craves (and make her seem like she's a real indie dev with real indie dev problems) and to downplay her privilege, despite bragging about her various Mac products.
 
Brianna can well afford this, but she doesn't. Why? She does this in order to give herself the indie cred she craves (and make her seem like she's a real indie dev with real indie dev problems) and to downplay her privilege, despite bragging about her various Mac products.

No. He doesn't do this because he doesn't know how to and he's fucking lazy as shit.
 
I'm confused fellow Kiwis. Wu calls himself an engineer, yet from what I've gathered he completed some throw-away communications degree back in the 90s. Where I'm from, to call yourself an engineer you have to actually have an engineering degree. If you don't have an engineering degree, you're referred to as a technician, but even technicians have to have some sort of formal engineering education.

At what point did Johnny-boy get an engineering degree? Sure a lot could have happened in the last 15 years, he could have gotten his engineering degree when he recovered from mutilating his dick (and turning himself into a eunuch). Is this just Johnny-boy blowing smoke up our asses? Is he that much of a compulsive liar, that he'd actually misrepresent himself as a Son of the Gear?

On Wu's LinkedIn there used to be an entry for a comp sci course of some kind that finished around or pre-2003 (the date her current LinkedIn says she began her poli sci degree). Unfortunately I never screenshotted it but here's my post on it from earlier this year:

It's in the education history. She attended the same 1 year (or less) animation certificate course as Amanda Warner in 2010. She also did a BA of comp sci and psychology, graduating in 2003, so she had prior programming experience but it would've been pretty outdated.

The course in animation also no longer appears, coincidentally. Edit : I was stupid and forgot to read the context of my previous quote. Wu didn't take the animation course, the other programmer, Maria, did.

The lolcow wiki's article on Wu is a bit of a labyrinth but it has this "After growing up in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, he moved to Oxford and attended Ole Miss college's Engineering course in 1996[10] before transferring to Millsaps in an attempt to start up his own animation studio". -

Wu never completed any of his degrees from the looks of it, but did take some classes in programming and engineering. He also tends to call himself a "software developer" more then "software engineer", and likely avoids any of the formal engineering groups and societies so that he can't be called out for his lack of knowledge and degree.
 
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I'll edit my post, but the majority of it still stands.

@Peace and Harmony - it could be one or the other, honestly.. but it might be laziness. If the lolcow.wiki article is right, she might have taken some courses in programming, which would mean she'd have some inkling of how to do this shit, but she probably didn't get that far in the program to actually learn about it.

@SlenderManBearPig - I've about 85% sure Wu has said she's an engineer, which really, is nearly identical in job title as software developer. If she's taken a intro to comp sci course in the mid-90s, it wouldn't help her much at all. She'd have some basic C++ and/or Java experience, which in and of itself really isn't enough, because you learn nothing of optimization and why it's so goddamn important... which we know she knows nothing about, look at Rev 60.

Speaking of which, it is now December. Where's the fucking game?
 
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Wu has purposely been bringing up this issue so when someone asks her for some information she just replies with "Wait for my new podcast! All will be revealed!' She's been doing this for what? Two weeks straight?

Did this man posing as a woman...

- Claim to speak for women in tech?
- Lie about their experiences as a woman in "the industry"?
- Have a history of unethical practices with employees/co-workers?
- Insist people should listen to them because of their gender and to do otherwise would be sexist?

I'm not going to listen to Brianna's podcast because.. well.. Wu lies. A lot. I'd honestly learn more by reading the articles written by the person Wu is attacking because it would answer all my questions and I could make my own judgement.
 
Speaking of which, it is now December. Where's the fucking game?
We're now a month past the deadline given on Kickstarter and she still hasn't said a thing to the project backers despite having been active on the site the week before the deadline and later in November.

Looking at the page and I think I know what forced her hand on that update from August. If you go to the comment section, you can see that a couple of people were talking about the lack of updates on the project and at least one was considering reporting her. Then, a couple of days later, "Natalie" shows up and posts the update with the October due date. I'm guessing if the backers started talking about it again we will get another deadline for Brianna to fail at.
 
Also, this gives me an idea why Wu has so much time to play games: Apparently rendering Rev60 takes a lot of time. The way she talks about her Mac suggests it is the same computer she uses to 'program' Rev 60. And when her machine is rendering, she probably can't really continue her work. So she is sitting in front of her Playstation 4 or Xbox One and passes the waiting time with gaming. She probably calls this "working hard".

If Wu did that Rev60 would have been done months ago. Wu just does nothing.
 
@krimsonincode Software Engineer is a official engineering title in some countries, and it usually means you're capable of designing an entire program from the ground up, whereas 'software developer' is usually a more general title for people with a bachelor of IT's. Wu has called himself an engineer in the past but not very often, and his current preferred title (Head of development) probably came about because of professional IT workers calling out his lack of knowledge.

We're now a month past the deadline given on Kickstarter and she still hasn't said a thing to the project backers despite having been active on the site the week before the deadline and later in November.

Looking at the page and I think I know what forced her hand on that update from August. If you go to the comment section, you can see that a couple of people were talking about the lack of updates on the project and at least one was considering reporting her. Then, a couple of days later, "Natalie" shows up and posts the update with the October due date. I'm guessing if the backers started talking about it again we will get another deadline for Brianna to fail at.

The backers don't even seem to care anymore, or are scared of rocking the boat. The kickstarter, Facebook and subreddit are dead, and no one anywhere else online is talking about Rev60 except for us and GG sites. GethN7 made a post a few weeks back about reporting Wu to kickstarter for fraud, but it looks like nothings come out of that yet.
 
@krimsonincode Software Engineer is a official engineering title in some countries, and it usually means you're capable of designing an entire program from the ground up, whereas 'software developer' is usually a more general title for people with a bachelor of IT's. Wu has called himself an engineer in the past but not very often, and his current preferred title (Head of development) probably came about because of professional IT workers calling out his lack of knowledge.



The backers don't even seem to care anymore, or are scared of rocking the boat. The kickstarter, Facebook and subreddit are dead, and no one anywhere else online is talking about Rev60 except for us and GG sites. GethN7 made a post a few weeks back about reporting Wu to kickstarter for fraud, but it looks like nothings come out of that yet.

According to Geth, he conceded on r/KotakuinAction he didn't think it would result in much, just wanted to spread the word about Wu's tardiness to follow the Kickstarter TOS, made mention he'll do it again if the game doesn't materialize by Christmas.
 
A little perspective on this whole Kickstarter business: I've backed a few projects by legitimate creators, and in the final reckoning all of them were at least as late as Rev60 now is. No one went to Kickstarter jail over it. Like, I know we're all hoping Wu will be forced into an encounter with the grown-up world of responsibilities and deadlines, but it's just not in the cards here.
 
A little perspective on this whole Kickstarter business: I've backed a few projects by legitimate creators, and in the final reckoning all of them were at least as late as Rev60 now is. No one went to Kickstarter jail over it. Like, I know we're all hoping Wu will be forced into an encounter with the grown-up world of responsibilities and deadlines, but it's just not in the cards here.
I doubt anyone expects Wu to be arrested. Most people are just pointing out the severe lack of progress updates on the Kickstarter page, something that's pretty damn unprofessional
 
I'll edit my post, but the majority of it still stands.

@Peace and Harmony - it could be one or the other, honestly.. but it might be laziness. If the lolcow.wiki article is right, she might have taken some courses in programming, which would mean she'd have some inkling of how to do this shit, but she probably didn't get that far in the program to actually learn about it.

@SlenderManBearPig - I've about 85% sure Wu has said she's an engineer, which really, is nearly identical in job title as software developer. If she's taken a intro to comp sci course in the mid-90s, it wouldn't help her much at all. She'd have some basic C++ and/or Java experience, which in and of itself really isn't enough, because you learn nothing of optimization and why it's so goddamn important... which we know she knows nothing about, look at Rev 60.

Speaking of which, it is now December. Where's the fucking game?
There is no way wu has completed analysis of algorithms or read any of knuth's painfully dry books on her own and yet failed to ever get a degree in anything, if you can muscle through that you can take enough 101 and 201 humanities courses to finish a gen studies degree unless you're rainman autistic. Some of her hires no doubt did and so most of the game is probably reasonably optimized and she doesn't need to mess with it that much but every time she fucks something up there is probably no un fucking it at this point.
 
A little perspective on this whole Kickstarter business: I've backed a few projects by legitimate creators, and in the final reckoning all of them were at least as late as Rev60 now is. No one went to Kickstarter jail over it. Like, I know we're all hoping Wu will be forced into an encounter with the grown-up world of responsibilities and deadlines, but it's just not in the cards here.
In the Kickstarter campaign, John's estimated delivery date for the PC port was August 2014. It's now 15-16 months late.

John also promised a Mac port if he raised $10,000 or more, a goal which was exceeded. He doesn't even mention the Mac version now.
 
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