Boxing (sport) - Because who doesn't want to punch bassomatic in the face

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Can highly recommend watching a replay of the Wardley/Dubois fight. Two guys absolutely knocking lumps out of each other. Shocked that it lasted as long as it did. A bit nasty towards the end though and should have been called off about 9 rounds in, imo.
The entire card was great tbh, with one very funny upset.
 
Complete Reprobate dijo:
Been kind of a thing recently with heavyweights and fights against guys coming in from outside of boxing...
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The thing of fighting a guy from outside the sport and then showing up not having taken training so seriously? Yeah.
Pretty inexcusable from Usyk given he's a) been seen as a consummate professional his career and b) was there when Tyson Fury fucked up and almost lost to Ngannou a few years ago. If he did take it seriously - big sign he better hang the gloves up.

Rico looked quite good given that his kickboxing his mostly him not being a boxer, but trying to kick and knee. His hands typically look quite meh in kickboxing fights. Stoppage was arse but whatever. Rico comes out looking like a hero and can probably get himself another big fight/rematch and Usyk can keep his belt for however long he decides to still fight. Knowing how this goes, whoever Rico faces next will probably ice him out because they take one look at him and train very, very hard.
 
I remember the clip of Usyk having a "tsk tsk" look on his face watching Francis Ngannou fighting against Anthony Joshua. I genuinely expected him to take the fight seriously, outsider or not as his opponent.
 
Slimy Time dijo:
Rico looked quite good given that his kickboxing his mostly him not being a boxer, but trying to kick and knee. His hands typically look quite meh in kickboxing fights. Stoppage was arse but whatever. Rico comes out looking like a hero and can probably get himself another big fight/rematch and Usyk can keep his belt for however long he decides to still fight. Knowing how this goes, whoever Rico faces next will probably ice him out because they take one look at him and train very, very hard.
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Agreed. Rico was covering really well and had a lot of snap with his shots. Reminds me of Sergey Kovalev, the way he was hunched over, constantly pressing forward and throwing heavy.

And of course, the stoppage was early. A rematch isn't super interesting, but if he wants to do it, that's fine. There is a good chance he can pull off a Nasukawa-type record especially considering that he's in a middling division with slow fighters.
 
naffatune dijo:
Agreed. Rico was covering really well and had a lot of snap with his shots. Reminds me of Sergey Kovalev, the way he was hunched over, constantly pressing forward and throwing heavy.

And of course, the stoppage was early. A rematch isn't super interesting, but if he wants to do it, that's fine. There is a good chance he can pull off a Nasukawa-type record especially considering that he's in a middling division with slow fighters.
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His gas tank impressed as well given he has only career wise gone the equivalent of 5 boxing rounds. Took till about round 10 to start to gas/get tired. Plan was good as well. Just be weird, active, smother and try and use size in clinch (Usyk actually pretty good in there).

Usyk - if you see him fight other guys, he's always got that lead hand out, feinting up and down, using it well. Here it was nonexistent. First sign that something is up. He did pull the excuse after that apparently (and I haven't checked) bombs were dropped in Ukraine and he got a call from his daughter, but apparently he also turned up his heaviest - sign he didn't take this so seriously.
 
Slimy Time dijo:
The thing of fighting a guy from outside the sport and then showing up not having taken training so seriously? Yeah.
Pretty inexcusable from Usyk given he's a) been seen as a consummate professional his career and b) was there when Tyson Fury fucked up and almost lost to Ngannou a few years ago. If he did take it seriously - big sign he better hang the gloves up.

Rico looked quite good given that his kickboxing his mostly him not being a boxer, but trying to kick and knee. His hands typically look quite meh in kickboxing fights. Stoppage was arse but whatever. Rico comes out looking like a hero and can probably get himself another big fight/rematch and Usyk can keep his belt for however long he decides to still fight. Knowing how this goes, whoever Rico faces next will probably ice him out because they take one look at him and train very, very hard.
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I don't understood how these boxers don't treat these guys like the legitimate threats they are. For the love of God Rico and Ngannou were both champions in their respective sports, not cans. Just because they can only use their hands this time doesn't mean the boxers shouldn't train to least 50% of their usual camps.
 
Sean_Igger dijo:
I don't understood how these boxers don't treat these guys like the legitimate threats they are. For the love of God Rico and Ngannou were both champions in their respective sports, not cans. Just because they can only use their hands this time doesn't mean the boxers shouldn't train to least 50% of their usual camps.
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Silliness/arrogance tbh. There is also the legitimate issue of not having tape on the opponent. Ok, there is a lot of tape on Rico doing kickboxing where he’s relatively static, upright, kicking with piss hands. Then he comes out moving, circling, jabbing, being really weird and unorthodox. That does mess with people. Even amongst boxers these guys who go through the amateurs have probably fought with one another before, if not in a camp then in many fights.

Same way you could look at Ngannou’s last fight vs Gane where he looks pretty fucking atrocious on the feet vs a guy who moves around and jabs him, and he has to rely on the wrestling to win a decision. Then he comes out vs Fury and is quite patient, switching stance, actually improved in his boxing.

Rico was damn close to breaking the boxing record of Muangsurin - fastest title win in fewest fights. That’s an old case of an Muay Thai guy in the 70s convincing a top ranked boxer to fight him for a payday, he colds him in 1 round, the sanctioning body thinks the boxer took a dive, make him fight another, he wins that, fights one of the champs (Spanish guy) and wins the title. Even Lomachenko couldn’t break the record, only match it. Rico was that close to breaking a 50 year old record of winning a world title with only 2 pro boxing fights.
 
I'm in my early 40s and I have to say my heavy bag is taking so much more energy out of me lately. I'm still in really active shape. I've been focused on Rugby past few years buy I couldn't take a single spar I don't think.

As everyone learns boxing 101 legs are super important and mine are still strong, just slowing down and that's gay.
 
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