books you used to like but now hate

I read Stranger In a Strange Land once.

I wouldn't necessarily say I hate it, but looking back on it today it's message of "God is you" reeks of the toxic modern narcissism of people who see themselves as the center of the universe, it's just not a message I agree with at all.
 
As a tween I was really into the Halo tie-in novels by Eric Nylund and William C. Dietz. I recently tried re-reading them thinking they’d be of the same caliber as the Horus Heresy novels I’ve since started reading. They were not. It was like Harry Potter but for boys. Master Chief is the special child and he is the best at everything and everyone likes him.
 
I read Stranger In a Strange Land once.

I wouldn't necessarily say I hate it, but looking back on it today it's message of "God is you" reeks of the toxic modern narcissism of people who see themselves as the center of the universe, it's just not a message I agree with at all.

The message was more libertarian than leftist. It's closer to Rand than the Maharishi, which makes it somewhat ironic it was picked up by the hippies, who Heinlein didn't really think much of.
 
Anything by RA Salvatore. There was a time when I thought this was the mecca of literature, now I understand what people mean by "Pulp fiction"

Even as a teen who loved pulp fantasy, I could never understand why people praised that re.tard so much. Easily one of the absolute worst writers I've ever come across. Fucking The Eye of Argon is a better read than the shit he churns out.
 
Even as a teen who loved pulp fantasy, I could never understand why people praised that re.tard so much. Easily one of the absolute worst writers I've ever come across. Fucking The Eye of Argon is a better read than the shit he churns out.

As someone that grew up with Dungeons and Dragons, RA Salvatore books and their ilk, were like reading an adventure/module/campaign all in one sitting. Those books (and the Forgotten Realms avalanche of content) helped inspire my imagination to new heights and showed me something wonderful about RPG's. Today we are deluged with content and those books and their writings were from a...simpler time where it was more about churning the content out to get on the shelves of Waldenbooks in the mall so people could buy them while shopping at Dillards.

I still buy Warhammer 40k books (Dan Abnett writes like a WW2 journalist on iwo jima) and they are my guilty pleasure.
 
As a tween I was really into the Halo tie-in novels by Eric Nylund and William C. Dietz. I recently tried re-reading them thinking they’d be of the same caliber as the Horus Heresy novels I’ve since started reading. They were not. It was like Harry Potter but for boys. Master Chief is the special child and he is the best at everything and everyone likes him.

I remember reading The Fall of Reach once as a teen and I honestly just found it kind of tedious and boring.

The message was more libertarian than leftist. It's closer to Rand than the Maharishi, which makes it somewhat ironic it was picked up by the hippies, who Heinlein didn't really think much of.

It's possible, it's been over a decade since I read it so my memory is not the clearest.

But I find it interesting that the mindset I'm talking about today seemingly did start with the hippies I guess.

Either way though that's not a message I agree with.
 
I used to really like The Dresden Files series. Tried going back to reread them recently and just couldn't get into them like I used to. The sense of humor just feels very Joss Whedon-y, and I've outgrown I guess is the best word to use (although that sounds more snobby than I'd like to say) that kind of humor.

Sorry to quote something from the beginning of the thread here, but I know what you mean. Maybe not necessarily “outgrowing” it, but more that something was funny and entertaining the first time you encountered it, but then it got repeated over and over again by everyone ad nauseam, and that kind of ruined it.

Anyway, I'll put in another vote for Harry Potter, even though I only really liked the first four books to begin with. I'm usually pretty good at enjoying stuff for what it is, but after so many years of exposure to Harry Potter junk everywhere with no rest, I don't think I could really have a good time reading them again.
 
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absolutely obsessed with the darren shan books as a kid
i found my old collection and read through some of them for old times sake and they dont hold up
but they ARE for tween boys so i dont know what i expected really
 
I read all the Narnia books more than once as a kid and none of them hold up as an adult, I don't think it has to do with my personal apostasy but that's hard to self assess. If there was one I could say I still liked it would be Voyage of the Dawn Treader where every chapter is it's own unique adventure inside a larger narrative and some of those were interesting.
 
My Sweet Audrina

Good psychological thriller but now I realized it's just completely fucked up and wouldn't fly in this day and age
 
Anything by RA Salvatore. There was a time when I thought this was the mecca of literature, now I understand what people mean by "Pulp fiction"


I put RA Salavatore in the same category as terry brooks. nothing amazing, but just good comfy fantasy books, usually with some interesting ideas (though usually less explored than you'd hope), well-written fight scenes, and characters that, while not super complex, are fun. I mean how can you not like Drizzt and Bruenor?

Though if I had to read one more line about Artemis Enteri "grinning evilly" in The Icewind Dale trilogy I was going to personally smack him.
 
The Eragon series. I loved it as a kid and was really taken by the story. It was a pivotal part of transitioning into my teenage years.

I tried going through it again as an adult and it was painful. I didn't even make it through the first few chapters before giving up. You can tell the author is a child and the books have probably every fantasy cliche ever written in them. Really awful stuff.

Sometimes it's best to leave fond memories alone.
 
The Dragonriders of Pern series by Anne McCaffrey. When I was a kid I loved those books. I spent months and months tracking down all the books through my county's library system. What kid doesn't think dragons are awesome? Especially friendly telepathic ones you can ride and who can teleport. I remember crying at the end of All the Weyrs of Pern, both because of a major character dying and because the story had obviously reached a cathartic conclusion. Surely there would be no more books after this, I thought.

Oh, how wrong (and naive) I was.

In my early twenties I found out McCaffrey had in fact continued the main series and also added a prequel series, so I decided to reread a few books to refresh my memory and then start on the new ones. The more I read, the more problems I noticed. First, a lot of characters came off as exceptionally flat and stereotypical. Especially the antagonists; everyone who opposed the could-do-no-wrong main protagonists were all uniformly short-sighted, selfish, and one dimensional--and also sometimes rapey and/or abusive in the bargain, just in case you weren't sure you were supposed to not like them. As a kid this hadn't bothered me because DRAGONS, but as an adult it kept me from engaging or caring about the characters.

I also realized McCaffrey had been absolutely shit at maintaining her own continuity, a problem that became more noticeable with each book. I'm not just talking retcons (though there were several of those); she would just seemingly straight up forget what she'd written in a previous book. She'd make references to events in other books that would be flat out wrong, screw up her timelines, change the personalities of characters, forget about powers she'd given characters, forget about side characters she'd established and drop new ones in the same positions/locations in the story, etc. Since I was binging the books in order, I started to notice this more and more while my memories of the previous books were still fresh, and it became increasingly jarring and took me out of the story.

On top of that, McCaffrey had some very... strange ideas about certain subjects. Not only ideas that didn't age well (though there are absolutely some of those too), but ideas that were bizarre even for the time period she was writing in. Rape was one of them--particularly how any straight man could be literally converted to being an effeminate gay fuckboi via violent surprise buttsex. (Not a joke or exaggeration. The tent peg story became pretty infamous in fandom circles.) As an innocent kid none of that weirdness stuck in my memory, which made me go "Wait, what, I don't remember that part!" more than once during the reread.

In the end I couldn't make it more than a few chapters into the prequel series, and I haven't been the slightest bit tempted to pick up any work by that author since.
 
Used to have a soft spot for the Sookie Stackhouse books, otherwise known as the True Blood series.

Thank god I'm over that.

I actually bought the box set extremely cheap a while back and ended up giving them to a friend because the end of the series was spoiled for me a few months back. I'm still curious what you liked about the series and why you don't like it anymore
 
Goosebumps.

I don't know how many dudes are going to jump out of the wood work and curse me out or agree with me. I was a horror kid but I thought the books were so tame when I was reading them. Keep in mind that I was watching a lot of the mainstream slasher pictures and anything that was common at the time that you could reasonably find in a video store. But I was ready for sick shit. But at the same time, the 90's really sucked as a horror fan because there was so little of it being produced that was actually good. It's like comic book nerds back then, we were starved for anything and we took anything we could. Comic nerds got the shitty Batman sequels and horror kids had Goosebumps. I even read other R.L. Stine books geared towards older audiences and they were so lame.

So I guess I kept reading Goosebumps hoping to get something gruesome and dark but rarely ever got my fix.
 
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