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- 6 de Feb, 2013
I'm relatively new to Boogie and his drama so I'm very curious what you guys think he hoped to achieve with his tweets constantly insulting women in his area?
I understand he's pretty lacking in social skills, but I'm sure he's been online long enough to know how much he sounds like an incel when he's trashing on women for their age, being divorced, having wrinkles and being fat while he is 40+, 400lbs+, divorced and has stroke-slope.
I know he says its a "joke" but that's obviously just him trying to save face, so what do you more knowledgeable Boogers think he thought/hoped would come from those tweets? Pity? Agreement? Women responding in droves not to worry because they're fit, virginal 16 year olds who love nothing more than working out, eating right and catering to the whims of a morbidly obese chronic liar?
Also I would pay some real human money for a trusted source to tell us what the Boogie household was really like as a kid. I want to be the kind of person who would always take a victim at their word, but this does honestly feel like a ADF situation. For those unfamiliar with Phil one of his most famous tales is that of "Daddy Rape Day".
To hear Phil tell it; his father chose that 4th of July to ramp up his constant molestation to full blown rape which left him with PTSD and DID which made him unemployable and resulted in years of homelessness.
The truth though is that this head canon came about after literal years of elaborating and exaggerating and when the truth was finally revealed it turned out that Phil's dad had spanked him that 4th of July after he caught Phil bullying some smaller children.
Is is possible Boogie's story took a similar route? I know we've seen parts of it evolve (It was molestation, then it was rape, then it was both parents and then I think he added in his siblings?)
I guess the way he talks about being poor and neglected kind of makes it sound like there is possibly some nugget of truth wrapped in years of attention seeking escalation, but something in the back of my brain keeps thinking he sounds a lot less like someone who is using real trauma as a base and instead has more of a narcissist's equivalency going on.
I'll explain that and give some examples but like I said, kinda new to this whole series so it's very possible I'm off base.
Back to Boogie and this idea; he really gives off the vibes of a spoiled child who justifies whining about this and that through this same narcissistic equivalency; it doesn't matter that he's never been actually raped because he feels the same as a rape victim and he's using that language to communicate that same pain.
So what happened then?
Well given how poorly he reacts to criticism it could be something a small as being lectured for getting bad grades, or told he had to let his siblings have a piece of his birthday cake rather than eating it all himself.
It's also why he has no problem ramping up the story each time; he still feels that same pain, the same shock and humiliation he felt the day he was told he HAD to participate in gym class or some shit but his audience is becoming bored with it so he has to shock them back awake and no matter how gross his story gets it's the same pain to him, so it's all the same thing to him.
So I guess the last part of this is me justifying my thoughts and I admit this all comes from a few places; First and foremost I think his rant about how he cringes at the words "Kitchen Table" due to his (alleged) trauma is WAY more telling than he realizes. Here he admits through this fairy tale that there are words and situations that deeply offend him but he knows that people outside his own head won't understand why.
In his idiotic rambling he thinks he's telling everyone why he says things others may find offensive and how any combination of words has the potential to be offensive, but looking a bit behind the curtain I think he's also admitting that he finds offense in things he KNOWS other people wouldn't raise an eyebrow to and if he is actually aware of this he probably knows the only way to manipulate others into feeling that same way and sharing his misery would be if he wrapped it up in a socially acceptable story of mistreatment.
This applies perfectly to his current mess with accusing Critikal of saying nasty things about him, but being unable to provide a single quote to back it up.
I don't doubt for a moment that something he said DID offend Boogie but all Boogie remembered was that to him it was "nasty" and wasn't expecting people to look any deeper than that. When he rechecked it was no doubt a "kitchen table" moment for him; where he knew what offended him was actually something stupid that he took too seriously but with all the evidence being easy to confirm he can't wrap this one in his usual victimized fantasies so he's either going to have to pretend there's more to the story than outsiders can see and hope Critikal himself doesn't respond disputing that, or come up with a new "kitchen table" and try to convince people he took deep offense to some combination of words and come up with a new story as to why, all the time justifying it to himself because the pain is still real to him.
Uh this is getting REALLY long and I didn't mean it to so just one more thing to kind of back up this theory; Boogie is completely and utterly unable to handle even slight discomfort and this is VERY obvious by his overly defensive nature, his finding offense where there is none, well, his physical body. He can't push through the slight discomfort of feeling hungry to lose weight, he can't push through the pain of his own pounds to exercise, he can't fight a single craving or impulse.
This is the kind of person who will say they're STARVING and their body is EATING ITSELF at the slightest pang of hunger, which fits in neatly with this narcissistic equivalency theory; he's never starved so this is the hungriest he's ever felt, so it MUST be what starving feels like, therefore he can feel comfortable saying "I starved myself today" when in fact he just hadn't eaten for a few hours.
His buffet justifications have roots in this too; I know this looks like a lot of food, he says, but it's okay because I haven't eaten much today! If you starved like I starved and walked like I walked, you'd feel like this isn't a lot of food either!
He knows it's a lot of food, he knows he didn't walk that much and in all honesty its probably been like, less than half a day since his last huge meal, but he FEELS like he walked a lot and FEELS like he hasn't eaten all day so that makes it all true.
TLDR; People who have broken their bones won't cry to their friends and family when they stub their toe, but people who have never felt anything worse will tell you that their stubbed toe is broken.
I understand he's pretty lacking in social skills, but I'm sure he's been online long enough to know how much he sounds like an incel when he's trashing on women for their age, being divorced, having wrinkles and being fat while he is 40+, 400lbs+, divorced and has stroke-slope.
I know he says its a "joke" but that's obviously just him trying to save face, so what do you more knowledgeable Boogers think he thought/hoped would come from those tweets? Pity? Agreement? Women responding in droves not to worry because they're fit, virginal 16 year olds who love nothing more than working out, eating right and catering to the whims of a morbidly obese chronic liar?
Also I would pay some real human money for a trusted source to tell us what the Boogie household was really like as a kid. I want to be the kind of person who would always take a victim at their word, but this does honestly feel like a ADF situation. For those unfamiliar with Phil one of his most famous tales is that of "Daddy Rape Day".
To hear Phil tell it; his father chose that 4th of July to ramp up his constant molestation to full blown rape which left him with PTSD and DID which made him unemployable and resulted in years of homelessness.
The truth though is that this head canon came about after literal years of elaborating and exaggerating and when the truth was finally revealed it turned out that Phil's dad had spanked him that 4th of July after he caught Phil bullying some smaller children.
Is is possible Boogie's story took a similar route? I know we've seen parts of it evolve (It was molestation, then it was rape, then it was both parents and then I think he added in his siblings?)
I guess the way he talks about being poor and neglected kind of makes it sound like there is possibly some nugget of truth wrapped in years of attention seeking escalation, but something in the back of my brain keeps thinking he sounds a lot less like someone who is using real trauma as a base and instead has more of a narcissist's equivalency going on.
I'll explain that and give some examples but like I said, kinda new to this whole series so it's very possible I'm off base.
One thing I've noticed a lot in narcissistic cows, online and off, is their really immature understanding of actual pain and suffering. Take for example a lot of the cows in The Rat King; You'll see them taking small slights and equating them to much more significant and malicious abuse. Misgendering Jon is, in his mind, is the same as commiting an act of literal violence against him, telling Rhys he shouldn't be competing in women's events due to biology and science is the same as taking away black people's rights to vote
and if you ask Labelle then he'll tell you that denying trans people free _____ ( < fill in with anything he wants in that moment) you're telling all trans people you wish they were dead and committing trans genocide.
To these people (and many others like them, not just trans) all of these hyperbolic responses to what to the rest of us seem like really small or obviously silly arguments are completely justified and 110% the truth because they've never been physically attacked, had their voting rights revoked or been the targets of genocide, but they know all those things are bad, and being misgendered, told to play on the boys team and not given free laser hair removal makes them feel bad, so its all the same.
and if you ask Labelle then he'll tell you that denying trans people free _____ ( < fill in with anything he wants in that moment) you're telling all trans people you wish they were dead and committing trans genocide.
To these people (and many others like them, not just trans) all of these hyperbolic responses to what to the rest of us seem like really small or obviously silly arguments are completely justified and 110% the truth because they've never been physically attacked, had their voting rights revoked or been the targets of genocide, but they know all those things are bad, and being misgendered, told to play on the boys team and not given free laser hair removal makes them feel bad, so its all the same.
Back to Boogie and this idea; he really gives off the vibes of a spoiled child who justifies whining about this and that through this same narcissistic equivalency; it doesn't matter that he's never been actually raped because he feels the same as a rape victim and he's using that language to communicate that same pain.
So what happened then?
Well given how poorly he reacts to criticism it could be something a small as being lectured for getting bad grades, or told he had to let his siblings have a piece of his birthday cake rather than eating it all himself.
It's also why he has no problem ramping up the story each time; he still feels that same pain, the same shock and humiliation he felt the day he was told he HAD to participate in gym class or some shit but his audience is becoming bored with it so he has to shock them back awake and no matter how gross his story gets it's the same pain to him, so it's all the same thing to him.
So I guess the last part of this is me justifying my thoughts and I admit this all comes from a few places; First and foremost I think his rant about how he cringes at the words "Kitchen Table" due to his (alleged) trauma is WAY more telling than he realizes. Here he admits through this fairy tale that there are words and situations that deeply offend him but he knows that people outside his own head won't understand why.
In his idiotic rambling he thinks he's telling everyone why he says things others may find offensive and how any combination of words has the potential to be offensive, but looking a bit behind the curtain I think he's also admitting that he finds offense in things he KNOWS other people wouldn't raise an eyebrow to and if he is actually aware of this he probably knows the only way to manipulate others into feeling that same way and sharing his misery would be if he wrapped it up in a socially acceptable story of mistreatment.
This applies perfectly to his current mess with accusing Critikal of saying nasty things about him, but being unable to provide a single quote to back it up.
I don't doubt for a moment that something he said DID offend Boogie but all Boogie remembered was that to him it was "nasty" and wasn't expecting people to look any deeper than that. When he rechecked it was no doubt a "kitchen table" moment for him; where he knew what offended him was actually something stupid that he took too seriously but with all the evidence being easy to confirm he can't wrap this one in his usual victimized fantasies so he's either going to have to pretend there's more to the story than outsiders can see and hope Critikal himself doesn't respond disputing that, or come up with a new "kitchen table" and try to convince people he took deep offense to some combination of words and come up with a new story as to why, all the time justifying it to himself because the pain is still real to him.
Uh this is getting REALLY long and I didn't mean it to so just one more thing to kind of back up this theory; Boogie is completely and utterly unable to handle even slight discomfort and this is VERY obvious by his overly defensive nature, his finding offense where there is none, well, his physical body. He can't push through the slight discomfort of feeling hungry to lose weight, he can't push through the pain of his own pounds to exercise, he can't fight a single craving or impulse.
This is the kind of person who will say they're STARVING and their body is EATING ITSELF at the slightest pang of hunger, which fits in neatly with this narcissistic equivalency theory; he's never starved so this is the hungriest he's ever felt, so it MUST be what starving feels like, therefore he can feel comfortable saying "I starved myself today" when in fact he just hadn't eaten for a few hours.
His buffet justifications have roots in this too; I know this looks like a lot of food, he says, but it's okay because I haven't eaten much today! If you starved like I starved and walked like I walked, you'd feel like this isn't a lot of food either!
He knows it's a lot of food, he knows he didn't walk that much and in all honesty its probably been like, less than half a day since his last huge meal, but he FEELS like he walked a lot and FEELS like he hasn't eaten all day so that makes it all true.
TLDR; People who have broken their bones won't cry to their friends and family when they stub their toe, but people who have never felt anything worse will tell you that their stubbed toe is broken.
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