bojack horseman HATE thread - WHY IS THIS POPULAR

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Battlefield2142EU dijo:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SocL7NERZxMIt is evident that Mr. Peanutbutter was initially intended to serve as the main antagonist, with audiences expected to dislike his character during the first season. However, the writers appeared to reconsider this approach, perhaps realizing that he was the only character perceived as a positive figure. It seems that Mr. Peanutbutter was originally designed to function as an anti-conservative strawman, representing a stereotype often associated with actors and comedians such as Tim Allen.
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imo the political shit is enough to be a major thorn in it's side. one of the main things about bojack to me, that really clicked badly, was the episode about (hopefully i remember right) his mom forgetting him. then she says something he thought was important, but wound up seeing it on the door behind him, and having that doubt set in which prevents any form of solace from it. that shit can really fucking ring with people who've experienced similar shit, or severely fear it, and is the kind of shit where you go "hug mom/whoever asap" irl. but then, if you're a writer getting fucking paid at least minimum wage, and have gone through that kind of shit irl, or have just did minimum work to see people, then if you leave that room, and somebody outside talks about muh misogyny or any political shit mostly for that matter, you either could not give one less of a fuck and/or potentially lash out badly verbally or physically. it's retarded to have life loss conditions essentially for your mental state while also being a "conservatives lmao amirite bluesky?"

at minimum it should be entirely about the character just trying to hang on or crashing out awfully, or at least a deuteragonist holding on, but it can't ever be that because of the political shit that just reflects on someone who apparently hasn't went through actual hardship beyond "muh therapy, muh validation". it's sad because there's a lot of really easy deep shit to do from there, or the ability to potentially reach people going through similar, particularly dumber/still learning young people.

even at the most generous, the issue is media has covered all that fuckin shit, and better. sopranos/breaking bad etc, sopranos in particular covers more of the raw nihlism and "yeah this is all going to end badly", but the characters are shown better and still less retarded. the therapy shit turning out to have been bad in part all along, while having the uncle dementia and "don't you love me?" scenes that make you still root for the characters and go "WAKE THE FUCK UP TONY" etc. breaking bad's jesse being pyrrhic but a hard earned "happy" end after all the nihlism. those angles have been covered, and bj horseman does nothing new from those, just has facebook timeline quotes, leftist right think, very average animation, and the ending is basically "you know what everything sucks actually kill yourself". sopranos you can see tony lose himself, the loss of care about the ducks/his family, breaking bad you can see walter lose his original goal, be happy with being the bad guy, but still had a part of him that wanted his family to make it out in the end. their messages, characters, events, etc were better, sopranos in particular is closer to kubrick lite with all the shit you can see talked about and explained.

all in all, to compete as a story for adults, bojack is really low tier and is mistakenly placed above dozens of others. at least Ugly Americans had more interesting animation and character designs.
 
Sergeant Major Buzzkill dijo:
Someone tried to compare bojack to Duckman and they both always felt like apples to oranges. Duckman has this energy to it even if it’s not your thing.
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druckman is a cuck and made a shitty game lololol

fuck the last of us part 2 "28 days later" is the better zombie media
 
Main thing that kept me from watching the show was the animation, i do not like it. I am picky with animation and I wish they had made better rigs for the characters as the show went on.
Sergeant Major Buzzkill dijo:
Someone tried to compare bojack to Duckman and they both always felt like apples to oranges. Duckman has this energy to it even if it’s not your thing.
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I suppose they have similar main characters but they are nothing alike. Duckman is very fast paced and irreverent, and the only character it actually explores is the main man himself. Not to mention it has a very gritty 90s visual style that does laps around Bojack.

Funny thing is, both Horseman and Duckman are down and out losers that you root for, the difference is Duckman usually does the right thing.
Fishnumm dijo:
druckman is a cuck and made a shitty game lololol

fuck the last of us part 2 "28 days later" is the better zombie media
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DUCKMAN, retard. Not druckman.

Family man, private dick.
 
ShiftyBoi dijo:
Family man, private dick
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I fucking loved that tagline man. Knowing damn well this fool was anything but private about his bullshit.

Look at how lovingly crafted these covers are, too. These look sick. I wish the actual complete series set was designed like these.
 

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Sergeant Major Buzzkill dijo:
I fucking loved that tagline man. Knowing damn well this fool was anything but private about his bullshit.

Look at how lovingly crafted these covers are, too. These look sick. I wish the actual complete series set was designed like these.
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ducks dont have teeth lol

ive seen there beaks before
 
Jace on ice dijo:
This was quite possibly the most millennial show ever made.

Lolsorandum humor
Everyone is a sociopath
"Whoa there buddy did you just do a heckin misogyny?"
"Do better."
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Most of the show was just making a bunch of outdated references with some emotional moments sprinkled in. I enjoyed it but you can't really act as if this show is deep when it only made a few episodes worth of content that actually dealt with anything. The view from halfway down didn't win anything because it was just some mid-tier commentary on suicide and death. Sure it was a good episode but it's not that good.
 
dcss dijo:
I enjoyed the show
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I enjoyed it at times. Nihilism and cynicism aren't themes I tend to watch so I never watched all episodes. Animal puns and visual gags were clever but everyone got a happy ending except for Bojack who was a punching bag. IIRC at the end of the series he was repentant when he moved back home and humbled himself to teach acting at a local college. Apparently that's not good enough so he had to be canceled and then he died. Or not, depending on how you read the ending. I could be wrong in my assessment since I didn't watch all seasons but the writers really seemed to hate their titular character and believed there is no redemption for him, or anyone.
 
I remember the big appeal that was pushed at the beginning was that it featured Aaron Paul fresh out of Breaking Bad. The eye roll pretentiousness got really bad after a while but for the first couple years it was the Breaking Bad guy and the Arrested Development guy are doing a cartoon. It only went downhill from there.
 
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