Black Widow

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TBF ScarJo did say that the movie was inspired by MeToo, though it seems like she meant it in a more "women abused by men in general" sense and not specifically MeToo.

In trying to extract the meaning from the film. The Red Room represents the patriarchal system of oppression we have in the west. Where women are unwittingly part of the system of oppression. Reinforcing it and not being free because they can't think for themselves. They're doing the bidding of Dreykov, the patriarchy. Not doing what is the best thing for other women. Actively doing what is worse for women at the behest of the system.

The mind control represented them having a false consciousness. This is stripped away and they developed a critical consciousness that frees them from supporting the system of oppression. Free's them to do what is in their self-interest. It's a metaphor for going "woke." The system which once held up comes crashing down to the ground once they go woke. Literally, crashing to the ground.

So this kind of thinking would inform how they wrote Antonia. She's also gone woke. She sees Natasha as fighting the patriarchy. Not at all concerned with it making any sense from a character point of view. As the films superficial as all hell and about this metaphor. Probably impacted by it coming out of Hollywood. A system where women facilitated the abuse and dominance of evil men.

The MCU shills on Reddit can be hilarious. I'm still laughing at the ones who were arguing that WandaVision's old sitcom scenes were intentionally written to be bad, not funny and not entertaining.
 
The MCU shills on Reddit can be hilarious. I'm still laughing at the ones who were arguing that WandaVision's old sitcom scenes were intentionally written to be bad, not funny and not entertaining.
>Its shit/not funny/not finished/bad on purpose!
That is my "favorite" cope, its always hilarious to see it
 
I watched it. 3rd act was dogshit, Taskmaster was boring and a wasted character; Drakhov was being played by a cockney character and you could hear his native accent actively fighting against the fake russian one. The addition of feral looking nog women (they looked especially masculine, nappy and out of place in it) was a mild detriment to the cavalcade of catsuit clad supermodels scissoring each others necks.

Like most marvel films it's a completely wasted opportunity. The idea of this globe spanning order of assassins shaping world history was already done in Winter Soldier (and done better); but they could have salvaged an interesting one to two season TV series out of it if they bothered to be creative. But the marvel films aren't creative.

Good time at the cinema none the less. Enjoyed the cringy opening credits more than I would ever care to admit; and they got me hyped for a film that just wasn't delivered on. Sad.
 
tbf, the idea of the “real” mandarin was revealed a LONG time ago in (I think) a DVD extra. One of the guys the Ant Man 1 villain was trying to sell tech to also had a Ten Rings tattoo, presumably in affiliation with the actual gang.
It was from “Hail to the King”. Really great little short film and even brought back Justin Hammer for a cameo. I think it was on the dvd for Thor 2.

Man, bringing back those mcu shorts they made for phase 2 for disney+ as a every now and then thing seems like such a missed opportunity but I think they were Avi Arads idea so they’re kinda dead I guess.
 
Johansson will probably lose and she has no leverage. Her MCU character is dead, and I know this might be a tad controversial but she's not that great an actress. Especially not in recent times. Now there's no production she could join that couldn't easily replace her with anyone from a long line of unknowns with boob implants and nose jobs.

Black Widow hasn't done that badly, not as badly as I thought. Domestically it has turned in $158M, double that worldwide, which is what Disney/Marvel should have expected for a prequel with a fading actress and a story that had no stakes and no entry into the main arc they've spent years developing. I am assuming Johansson has no participation in the streaming and that's why she's mad.

Some outlets were comparing Black Widow, box-office-wise, to the Avengers movies, which was just silly. But given what Black Widow is, the box office trade-off might well have worked out for Disney, especially if it allowed the studio accountants -who can be more creative in their accounting than Hollywood writers - to deny Johannson her gross points. They still got a decent opening weekend and some unknown number of $30 streaming tickets, which only split one way.
 
Scar Jo signs with Disney to play a character that is a classic spy female fatale type, using beauty and sex appeal to do what needs to be done.

Then she complains saying she doesn't like how the character is shown. But keeps playing her to get a paycheck. Millions of dollars.

Now she is trying to get more money from them?
 
There's a lot of fury with this lawsuit but not much light; so far. If the contract guarantees an exclusive theatrical release then why is that contract term not front and centre of this lawsuit and quoted in the press coverage? It would be hugely important. Why is an attempt being made to rely on an alleged Disney lawyer statement to the effect that renegotiation was necessary for simultaneous release on D+ if the contractual provision exists and is so clear? Is it being suggested that the Disney lawyer statement effected a contract variation? That itself would beg some questions. Did the contract provide that it and only it comprises the legal relationship between the parties (as is often the case)? Did it provide for contract variation but only in a particular manner (e.g. in writing expressed to be a contract variation and signed by both parties' authorised reps)?

Maybe there's substance to Johansson's claim but I've not seen it yet and can't see a reason for it not being produced from the start instead of all of the blustering moral grandstanding.

It's too early to tell but I'm hopeful of lolsuit potential with this as both parties sling mud at each other and, hopefully, both lose.
 
And the complaint is widely available.

The contractual provision is set out at para 21
".......if Producer in its sole discretion determines to release the Picture, then such release shall be a wide theatrical release of the Picture (i.e., no less than 1,500 screens)".

The representation is at para 28
"Further [to] our conversation today, it is 100% our plan to do a typical wide release of Black Widow. We have very high expectations for the film and are very excited to try to do for Black
Widow what we’ve just done with Captain Marvel.
We totally understand that Scarlett’s willingness to do the film and her whole deal is based on the premise that the film would be widely theatrically released like our other pictures. We understand that should the plan change, we would need to discuss this with you and come to an understanding as the deal is based on a series of (very large) box office bonuses."

The argument is that "At the time the Agreement was entered, it was well understood by the parties and Disney that a “theatrical release” referred to an exclusive release in theatres for an extended period of time that was roughly 90-120 days." (para 22).

Seems to be a bit of a stretch given that the contract itself identifies that a wide theatrical release means no less than 1500 screens.
 

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Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige is reportedly “angry and embarrassed” over Disney’s response to Scarlett Johansson’s lawsuit, feeling the company did not do enough to make it right with one of Marvel’s biggest stars.



In the What I’m Hearing… newsletter from former The Hollywood Reporter editor Matthew Belloni, Feige apparently lobbied Disney to keep Black Widow a theatrical-only release to not upset Johansson.

“[Feige is] a company man, and prone to corporate showdowns or shouting matches. But I’m told he’s angry and embarrassed,” Belloni reports. “He lobbied Disney against the day-and-date plan for Black Widow, preferring the big screen exclusivity and not wanting to upset his talent.”

Furthermore, the report says that when “the sh*t hit the fan, the movie started tanking and Johansson’s team threatened litigation,” Feige tried to get Disney to “make this right with her.”
Yes! Devour each other!
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Warner's went through the same issue with several stars when they blindsided their talent by announcing that they were releasing movies theatrically and in HBO Max at the same time. They ended up cutting checks to people like Keanu Reeves and Denzel Washington rather than risk getting into public disputes like the one ScarJo is in with Disney. Emma Stone is now talking about saying Disney too, so it should at least be amusing to watch the fireworks.
 
This is pretty messed up...
 
So if Midnight's Edge is to be believed (take this with a massive grain of salt considering their recent editorial direction), the lawsuit was made at Feige's behest as part of a 4d chess move to oust Bob Chapek from his position. I'm going to place the source here but it's a 3 hour video. That's the gist of it for the TL;DW people.

 
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