"Black Fathers Matter"

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There are some interesting points. Though it is arguable if having the father sometimes isn't always the best thing. Hear me out on this. My maternal grandma had an alcoholic, abusive husband whose irresponsibility destroyed the family's insurance business. She either had to get a legal separation okayed by the pope (she was Catholic) or let his influence and abuse wreck the family. So she raised my mom and her siblings on her own until her death.

And yet coming from a single mother household is correlated with a host of negative consequences in the african american community, from criminality, incarceration, low educational achievement, etc. I'm sure situations such as the above happen, but the widespread existence of responsable, mature single mothers that can raise "their" children on their own without no man doesn't seem to be borne out by statistics. Of course criticizing single motherhood in any way is practically taboo, only glorification and support is acceptable, while promoting fatherhood as essential is verbotten.
 
I don't believe the parental influence argument. I think economics (that is, being poor) is the biggest cause of delinquency and eventually criminality.

My perspective is colored by my own upbringing. :powerlevel: :powerlevel: I grew up in foster care, in a single parent home. (This is not an argument nor evidence, but just to explain my perspective.)

The head of our household wasn't home very often. She worked most of the day and I was left to my own devices. My socialization came from my peers, in public school. We had lots of benefits from the state, including healthcare and free college tuition if we went to a public school in our state.

We were also under the supervision of a social worker. (We didn't see the social worker very often, maybe a couple of times a year, because we weren't delinquents, but they were at least on the job, even if just officially.)

Now, one way that having two parents is actually useful is that you have two incomes. But that's a bit different from the argument the two-parent-household people seem to be making.

To me, it seems that they're saying that children need to learn morals and how to be an upstanding adult from their parents. I don't buy that. Sitting down with pop to read the bible every afternoon isn't what determines whether or not you join a gang. Being poor as shit is.

Like, the morality argument reminds me of people saying violent video games cause school shootings.

I think if we had all the indigent children live in what amounts to well funded orphanages, a much, much smaller percentage of them would grow up to be criminals. (Not to say I'm proposing that.) Historically, millions of children grew up in boarding schools. They grew up just fine. That's basically the same thing.

Not to say that boarding schools are perfect. Children are annoying little savages, so bullying is pretty rife in boarding schools. Lowering the adult:child ratio leaves them to their own devices, which leaves a mark, psychologically.

What I would suggest is more accountability for things like welfare and child support. If you're getting $X a month to support your child, your child should be pretty well cared for. It shouldn't be invasive or anything like that. But if you're getting new TVs and iphones every month, while your kid lives on ramen noodles, that sounds a bit like fraud to me.

Also, if your kid is getting arrested, that should be investigated as a child welfare situation. Why is your little shithead getting arrested every other week? Are you fucking up? Quite possibly.
 
Also, if your kid is getting arrested, that should be investigated as a child welfare situation. Why is your little shithead getting arrested every other week? Are you fucking up? Quite possibly.
Some kids are just hellbent on being little shitheads.
 
I do not think poverty is the only factor to blame. To be frank, having two parents as opposed to one is simply better because it provides more income and more time to spend with the child in general.

I'm not saying a single parent can't rear a child, but it certainly a harder job for most people.

The whole "gangster" culture also plays into this. I believe these 3 factors all end up amplifying each others' negative effects. I also feel that this is something they can get from their peers too.

Like how Chris chan was a perfect storm of bad parenting, autism and stupidity.

Mind, that father in the video who worked 2 jobs and a night time education deserves a fucking medal.
 
The only inaccurate information in the video is his claim that Tupac is dead, while we all know he is alive and well in Serbia.
Sorry but you are so fucking incorrect. Everyone knows Tupac ain't in Serbia. He's in Cuba hanging with the Castro Bros . How else is he gonna do his "hologram" shows in Vegas? But I digress.

Anyway, black father's don't matter because I'm still waiting for mine to come back from the ice cream shop after he said he was going to get some ice cream for me. It was 14 years ago.
 
There are some interesting points. Though it is arguable if having the father sometimes isn't always the best thing. Hear me out on this. My maternal grandma had an alcoholic, abusive husband whose irresponsibility destroyed the family's insurance business. She either had to get a legal separation okayed by the pope (she was Catholic) or let his influence and abuse wreck the family. So she raised my mom and her siblings on her own until her death.
When people praise old timey values they tend to forget there's a reason why people started to move away from them in the first place, or that they never actually existed.

Old time folks didn't really have a choice about how to lead their lives, you had to marry and withstand a potentially unpleasant to abusive spouse and beget children you probably didn't want just to keep your social status. If you repeat this infinitely, each subsequent generation becomes more jaded and more skeptical of an institution they've heard is the be all, end all of human achievement and yet for some reason didn't work in their household. Which ultimately leads to where we are.
 
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It worked for over a thousand years in Europe. And when it broke down, there is a shortage of children suddenly and population decline problems pop up. Coincidence? I doubt.
 
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lol Prager Univeristy isn't a real university, it's literally a right-wing non-profit think tank devoted to New Deal denialism and promoting supply-side economics under a Christian banner. However that being said they have some good videos on the anti-science viewpoints of Greenpeace and even take down neo-Conferderalism. Just take what they say with a grain of salt.

But at least they're hiring: https://www.prageru.com/educators
 
lol Prager Univeristy isn't a real university, it's literally a right-wing non-profit think tank devoted to New Deal denialism and promoting supply-side economics under a Christian banner. However that being said they have some good videos on the anti-science viewpoints of Greenpeace and even take down neo-Conferderalism. Just take what they say with a grain of salt.

But at least they're hiring: https://www.prageru.com/educators
A grain of salt? More like the whole shaker. I'd trust Prager U about as much as I'd trust the Ayn Rand Institute.
 
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