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https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...ount-devoted-to-destroying-rideshare-scooters
There's an Entire Instagram Account Devoted to Destroying Rideshare Scooters

The account Bird Graveyard features footage of the scooters getting burned, thrown off buildings, pooped on, and tossed into the ocean.

A few months back, Sinan, a 25-year-old artist and bike messenger in Atlanta, saw a Bird scooter at a train station in the city. “I was feeling some sort of way, and there's a balcony, so I picked it up and dropped the Bird off it.”

Sinan, who has asked that I not include his last name for fear of legal repercussions, told me he did this because “they're just counterproductive to public transit, and they’re not being used for the right reasons by the right people.”

“I mean you get these douchebags who show up at the skatepark with these Birds,” he added. The video now lives on the Instagram page of Bird Graveyard, an account that shares images and videos of neglected, destroyed, drowned and even immolated dockless rental scooters.

If you don’t live in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Austin, Atlanta or the handful of other cities where Birds dot the streets, you might be unfamiliar with the scooters. Founded in 2017 by Travis VanderZanden, a former executive at Lyft and Uber, the electric Bird scooters can be located and unlocked with the company app. Once the user is on the move, they’re charged 15 cents per minute to ride. Unlike rideshare bikes, there are no docking stations, so a Bird can be discarded as soon as the rider has reached their destination. (Full disclosure: Bird subleases their Los Angeles office space from VICE.)

It’s been a big success out West. At the end of June, Bird Rides Inc. was reportedly valued at $2 billion. According to Bird, by February of this year, 50,000 people had taken 250,000 rides on their scooters in Santa Monica. Now other scooter companies have followed their lead, with Spin and the Uber-backed LimeBike sharing space on the streets with Bird.

The popularity is arguably a reflection of Bird’s, quite frankly, pretty good business idea. The scooters are an ostensibly good concept: They could alleviate traffic, cut down on pollution and—in a city like LA, where the skeletal public transport system is considerably underused—serve as a “last mile” option to cover the non-walkable distance between the nearest train station and your office/apartment/hot yoga class.

Yet as is often the case with tech companies, massive financial clout and an ostensibly good idea doesn’t equate to people not thinking your product or app or child-size submarine isn’t a giant pile of unwelcome garbage. And in cities where the scooter companies operate—many of which have faced social and economic shifts thanks to the relentless growth of tech corporations—people like Sinan are turning against the scooters.

Since its founding in June, Bird Graveyard has displayed user submitted photos and videos of (mostly Bird) scooters in trash cans, on fire, in tangled piles, covered in shit, and rusting at the bottom of the Venice Canals.

I reached out to the admins of the account to request an interview, but they would only answer questions via email, and wouldn’t give me their names due to legal concerns.

“At what point can somebody abandon property and expect it to be respected by the public?” they said by email, referring to the scooter company’s habit of launching their product in cities without fully consulting city officials first—a practice that saw Bird pulled from the streets of Louisville within 36 hours of showing up. “[Their business] depends on the community doing free labor for them. Even if that labor is extremely insignificant, like moving scooters from your yard.”

n a recent VICE News feature on the legal complexities of dockless scooters, Euwyn Poon, Co-Founder of Spin, described the company’s strategy of launching without consulting city officials as “innovating on the regulatory side.”

I reached out to Bird to see if they could enlighten us on the legal ramifications of destroying a product that has been, if not abandoned, then left-without-warning by its owner, and a Bird spokesperson replied with this comment:

"Vandalism of all types of property is a problem that should not be tolerated by communities or local law enforcement. We do not support the vandalism or destruction of any property and are disappointed when it takes place. Nor do we support the encouragement, celebration or normalization of this behavior. Bird encourages people in communities to report incidents of vandalism to Birds, and irresponsible behavior on Birds, to local authorities and to the company. We investigate all reports directed to Bird and take appropriate measures, including removing people from the Bird platform."

This emphasis on community responsibility was reiterated via email by Mary Caroline Pruitt, Lime Spokeswoman. “Our big picture for shared scooters and bikes is to create a culture, together with the community, where people view scooter and bike sharing as their own, and by creating that culture, we believe that responsible parking and respectful use will become a natural habit,” she wrote.

As evidenced by the fact that many scooters have been dumped, as trash, into oceans and waterways, the perceived burden Bird foists on communities isn't the only reason people submit to Bird Graveyard.

“Smashing scooters is just funny,” the account admins wrote to me. “It’s amusing when people come to the page and do not get why it’s funny. If you can’t laugh at a rideshare scooter being lit on fire at a house party, that’s a problem with you. There’s nothing in the Constitution that says we all have to respect and love brands.”

https://www.instagram.com/birdgraveyard/?hl=en


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Destroying them is unimaginative. Real ingenuity would be grabbing as many as possible, chopping them up and stripping the electronics, then selling it to a junkyard. It's free money*

*Granted that would be stealing but the company seems like it doesn't give any shits about this whole situation.

Or programming them to go apeshit when turned on and disable the brakes so they just turn into missiles going straight forward at whatever is in front of them.
 
Or programming them to go apeshit when turned on and disable the brakes so they just turn into missiles going straight forward at whatever is in front of them.

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An LAPD officer screams in terror moments before he is fatally struck by an out of control scooter
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i think it's how you look at it. if you know where the scrap yard is, i'd just dismantle them, and collect the cash for the scrap. otherwise tube steel is handy for making all kinds of things: tables, chairs, sub-machineguns, pipe bombs, et c. you can melt them down at fairly low temperature and cast them into a mold for something like a knife or gardening equipment.

"you destroyed my scooter that was discarded on your property." "thanks for the free scrap metal."
 
If you're not important enough to need transportation that would require a motor vehicle, you should just walk.
 
I guess they are just the next logical step in the bike share market. Smaller cities and their government are going to love them because cheap transport for the masses I don't like the lack of docking stations though it seems to be made for the inconsiderate asshole which explains why they're in a shit strewn city like San Francisco.

I can't see it working in bongland though, the bikeshares work because they're heavy and kind of slow but quicker than walking.
 
I guess they are just the next logical step in the bike share market. Smaller cities and their government are going to love them because cheap transport for the masses I don't like the lack of docking stations though it seems to be made for the inconsiderate asshole which explains why they're in a shit strewn city like San Francisco.

I can't see it working in bongland though, the bikeshares work because they're heavy and kind of slow but quicker than walking.

They're probably a lot more obnoxious in places of high pedestrian traffic density because idiots are going to be constantly barely missing people, or just outright hitting them. In big, spread out cities, this would be less of an issue.
 
Destroying them is unimaginative. Real ingenuity would be grabbing as many as possible, chopping them up and stripping the electronics, then selling it to a junkyard. It's free money*

*Granted that would be stealing but the company seems like it doesn't give any shits about this whole situation.

That would be an awesome business plan. Forget an Instagram page, open a scrap business and pay people to send you these scooters.
 
Not going to lie, if I found some asshole in moscow driving one of these on a busy sidewalk i'd look to see if there's any cars watching and if not, suckerpunch the idiot and take his wallet. He clearly doesn't need his money seeing how he likes to waste it anyways.
 
Psstt.

Hey there, Silicon Valley kids.

Do you care about the environment?

Are you sick of constantly having to recharge your $500 chunk of mass produced chink shit?

What if you could travel almost anywhere without the need for electricity at all, and stay healthy at the same time?

A revolutionary new mode of transportation, that's cheap... can be built using parts from a junkyard to reduce its carbon footprint... and be easily repaired by people like you...

Presenting...


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My city is getting these, they plan on setting them up along a chunk of street they are trying to make bus only. It's a lot of downtown high end shopping, too, and a lot of it has closed up. Oh, and there's very little parking so if you don't live in the immediate area you have to drive around a while to find a spot. There are several old motels that are little more than blights on the city that would be great places for parking garages, but they are "historic" so can't be touched. Except by the meth heads that squat there. The buses are rolling homeless shelters and at any given time there are 2 buses that are down along the route because the homeless OD there, because they know that if they do, they can be revived.
 
Not going to lie, if I found some asshole in moscow driving one of these on a busy sidewalk i'd look to see if there's any cars watching and if not, suckerpunch the idiot and take his wallet. He clearly doesn't need his money seeing how he likes to waste it anyways.

You haven't been near Парк Горького on a weekend recently have you?

Sidewalks (and the park) is lousy with these things. There's an entire rental shop set up right across from the main entrance.

Unless you're in moscow idaho, in which case, lol
 
Kids aren't going to drag a loudly beeping scooter 10 blocks to dump it in the harbor.
You are wildly underestimating the mischievousness of shithead kids.

Unless you're in moscow idaho, in which case, lol
These scooters would actually be pretty popular there. Well, until it snows.

I could see an entire frat drag racing these things down main street after getting shithoused at the Corner Club then chucking them into the creek and running home when the cops show up. Mostly because that's what certain unnamed members of the football team did when they got free shitty cheapo mopeds after winning some bowl game many years ago.
 
The ability to put the scooters everywhere (as opposed to just at charging stations, like old bikesharing programs) is that you can be pretty much anywhere in the city and walk a short distance and get a scooter. That's made these businesses very successful financially.
Last time i read about these scooters it was stated that they make money the same way twitter 'makes' money i.e. being funded by venture capitalists hoping that one day they will be able to squeeze out a profit. Has this changed?
 
What happens everywhere is that these Silicon Valley startup douchebags dump their scooters around town overnight and then wash their hands of them while raking in the dough as the people in the communities suddenly find themselves in an anarcho-capitalist chaos with no rules and no precedent, and only pure human greed is in control. You get college kids riding them all over the sidewalks, bumping into people, driving recklessly, and then when they're done, they just leave them in the middle of the sidewalk like a kid throwing his bike down on his front yard when he comes in for dinner.

What's also amusingly consistent is that credulous dupes in city councils get excited about these things and fall for the slick sales pitch about "saving the environment" while novelty-obsessed young people in the community pay some out-of-state capitalist sharks $1 per ride + 15 cents per minute. However, a lot of universities (which the companies largely target) hate these things and immediately have to be the ones taking initiative to stamp down on them and say "Listen here, you little shits, get these off the sidewalk, don't wear earbuds while you're riding, and put away your toys when you're done."

A lot of universities have been impounding them if they aren't left in appropriate places (e.g. at bike racks), and with all of the scooters that get used, it can cost the company thousands of dollars to get back all of its impounded scooters at one university. So the students pay the company, and then the company ends up paying the university because the kids leave the scooters in dumb places.

Yeah, they're a total nuisance in my area. No license is required, even though these things can hit 20+mph and there are no formal laws about riding on the road or sidewalk.

The result is people who can barely ride the things competently in the first place are burning rubber, clipping people on the sidewalk or sideswiping cars as they weave in and out of traffic.

And after they have some sort of accident, they ditch the scooter wherever and run off.

Plus, as someone mentioned, bums literally fight over the damn things, to the point of trying to steal in-use scooters to hoard and return at night.

They have a pretty extensive hate-base.
 
Around 9 PM the bums start fighting over who will take them back to the charging station, to collect that sweet, sweet $25 of booze money.
Dude you just stumbled upon a brilliant idea, we can get a bunch of bums together and have them fight in a thunderdome-esque structure for the entertainment of the normies and the winners get to bring the scooters back, everybody comes out a winner.
 
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