US Biden prepares largest Pentagon budget in history as spending cuts loom - Lawmakers have threatened defense cuts in larger battle over the debt ceiling.

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The Biden administration is preparing to ask Congress for the largest Pentagon budget in history, according to the Defense Department’s chief financial officer, as partisan squabbling over the debt ceiling raises the specter of deep cuts to the military’s funding plans.

Officials are “very close” to settling on a final topline number for the Defense Department, which the White House will include as part of its overall fiscal 2024 budget request set for release on March 9, Pentagon Comptroller Michael McCord said in an interview.

“I do expect it will be a bigger number than Congress provided last year,” McCord said. While he declined to give details about the proposal since it’s still in flux he said the Pentagon will invest in munitions to replenish U.S. stockpiles and support the continued fight in Ukraine, where both sides are expending thousands of rounds a day.

In December, lawmakers appropriated $858 billion in national defense funding — $45 billion more than Biden sought. That included $817 billion for the Pentagon, and billions more for nuclear weapons development through the Energy Department and other national security programs.

At the time, it was the most the U.S. had ever spent on the Defense Department, reflecting the Pentagon’s efforts to simultaneously counter the threat from Russia, keep pace with China’s growing technological advantage, modernize aging arsenals and fight inflation.

But the outlook for Biden’s Pentagon budget is increasingly uncertain now that Republicans have taken over the House, where a partisan fight is brewing over the nation’s debt limit. With just four months to go until the Treasury Department could run out of ways to stave off a default, Republican lawmakers have demanded deep spending cuts — including potentially defense — in exchange for raising the debt ceiling.

Republicans have yet to rally around a specific set of conditions to raise the debt limit, but House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has voiced support for capping spending at fiscal 2022 levels. If the Pentagon is not spared from those cuts, reverting to last year’s budget levels would amount to a nearly $75 billion cut across the board — roughly 10 percent.

There are deep divisions within the Republican Party on the issue of potential defense cuts. Many hawkish members have sought to quash any talk of reducing the Pentagon’s budget, instead looking to make cuts to non-military programs. Defense boosters are actually eyeing another increase this year of up to 5 percent to mitigate the effects of inflation and meet threats from Moscow and Beijing.

But a small but vocal faction of budget hardliners in the GOP conference is hellbent on cutting defense spending — and even some, such as Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), oppose continued aid to Ukraine. Those lawmakers will be hard to win over.

The parallels between the current situation and the debate that led to automatic cuts known as sequestration 12 years ago are not lost on McCord. In 2011, Republicans had just taken over control of the House and were demanding spending cuts in exchange for raising the debt ceiling. The crisis ended in the Budget Control Act, which forced hundreds of billions of dollars in spending cuts over the next 10 years.

This time, lawmakers will have to make tough choices about which parts of the defense budget to cut, McCord said.

“You are going to have to face the harder question of what is it that you want to do less? Do you want to have fewer people? Do you want to have fewer ships? Fewer airplanes? Smaller pay raises? That’s where the money is in the defense budget,” he said.

Although it’s not certain defense cuts will be part of a budget deal, McCarthy has strongly hinted the Pentagon could be on the chopping block. He told Fox News in January that the Defense Department could “be more efficient,” and even identified some potential targets that would be popular among his party:

“Eliminate all the money spent on ‘wokeism,’” he said, referring to DoD personnel policies aimed at diversity, inclusion and climate change put into effect during the Biden administration. “Eliminate all the money [they are spending] trying to find different fuels.”

But McCord said the amounts saved from cutting those types of programs would be miniscule.

“I’m not aware that anybody knows the number … but you would need a super telescope,” McCord said.

As for spending on alternative fuels, McCord said that’s already well under 1 percent of the Pentagon’s total budget.

He chastised Republicans for what he called a “complete reversal of the last two years” of calling for bigger defense budgets.

“It would appear to be largely the same people saying, ‘well, now it should be smaller,’” he said. “It is puzzling to me that the message we’ve gotten from Congress the last few years was in one direction, for a robust budget, and in both years they added to our request.”

Lawmakers have consistently voted to boost defense spending on a bipartisan basis, noted defense budget expert Todd Harrison, the managing director at Metrea Strategic Insights. But he also acknowledged the role that budget hawks will play.

“Everything is uncertain until Congress figures out how they are gonna resolve this standoff over the debt ceiling,” Harrison said. “The problem is that Biden can negotiate all he wants with McCarthy, but it’s not clear McCarthy can deliver the votes in the House.”

The possibility of spending cuts and even defaulting on the nation’s debt adds to a dangerous environment of uncertainty at the Pentagon, McCord said.

“If we started missing payments, there’s no free get out of jail card,” McCord said, of the possibility of default. “There is no exact playbook for this. So there is a certain extra layer of uncertainty and of course, the stakes are bigger.”

Connor O’Brien contributed to this report.

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Yes, need to spend that defense money in ((Ukraine)). Really, what is this shit? We already know the admin bootlicks to China. The founding fathers were right about militias, that's clear to me.
 
Yes, need to spend that defense money in ((Ukraine)). Really, what is this shit? We already know the admin bootlicks to China. The founding fathers were right about militias, that's clear to me.
I've been saying for about 3 years now, if you actually care about the defense of the United States of America, remember the other half of the Second Amendment. Personal ownership of firearms shall not be infringed, and neither shall your right to assemble as an organized militia.

And let's face it, the average firearms enthusiast who'd form or join a militia is likely going to be worth more in a real war than a modern day American "soldier", with how broken and woke the military is.
 
I've been saying for about 3 years now, if you actually care about the defense of the United States of America, remember the other half of the Second Amendment. Personal ownership of firearms shall not be infringed, and neither shall your right to assemble as an organized militia.

And let's face it, the average firearms enthusiast who'd form or join a militia is likely going to be worth more in a real war than a modern day American "soldier", with how broken and woke the military is.
If America can't defeat the mountain goat fuckers in Afghanistan, then nobody has a chance against the sister fuckers of the Appalachians.
 
>Be civilian employee for Army
>Jan 2021 Military and Civilian command staff were talking about how we should anticipate cuts to spending and trying to do more with our testing with less money


Cant wait for more raises to make sure I'm adequately compensated for telling generals how good something blows up and arguing with other federal employees about exactly how many millions of dollars we need to burn to be certain it blows up good.
 
At this point, I can't even tell who's bankrupting who anymore.

It's probably useless to mention that the excessive cost of the war in Afghanistan (in the 1980s) was a major contributing factor in the eventual collapse and breakup of the Soviet Union.

But I'm going to mention it anyway just to put things into perspective.
 
and even some, such as Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), oppose continued aid to Ukraine
Well even a complete retard is right some of the time. The Onion covered this budget, and really every budget the government has made in my lifetime, 14 years ago:

I do like how we apparently have billions to spend on nuclear weapon development but even with all the crying about renewable energy we can't put any sizeable amount into nuclear power, really gets the noggin joggin.
 
At this point, I can't even tell who's bankrupting who anymore.

It's probably useless to mention that the excessive cost of the war in Afghanistan (in the 1980s) was a major contributing factor in the eventual collapse and breakup of the Soviet Union.

But I'm going to mention it anyway just to put things into perspective.
Ukraine looks like America's testicles to me. The US decided to wave them at their opponent's face and then is totally surprised to feel getting kicked over and over again. All resources have to be spent into defending a place that shouldn't have been anywhere near the enemy to begin with and it ends with the US crumpled on the ground, crying and screaming how it's unfair they lost.
 
In December, lawmakers appropriated $858 billion in national defense funding — $45 billion more than Biden sought. That included $817 billion for the Pentagon, and billions more for nuclear weapons development through the Energy Department and other national security programs.
It's odd to hear this. Whether it's true or not; I can't recall anyone saying anything about creating more or updating or whatever our nuclear stockpile. Maybe I wasn't paying attention, because I know there was always talk about needing to update it as it still runs on old floppy disks and shit. But damn.
 
The annual interest payment on the National debt is 850 billion dollars. The us Spends more on its defense budget than the next 10 countries combined.

Think inflation is bad now? wait till interest rates are over 8% and the interest on the National debt is 1.25 trillion dollars.

and they want more money for Woarrrr!!!!!

The truth is there is no way out of this other than war. So take your shots get your UBI and eat your Cricket protein in your pod, because that is the future the country is sleep walking into.

The currency is dying, your rights are being eroded away along with your privacy, they are poisening you with experimental injections, and they want you to fight for hoholstahn in Slavikstan next to Khazaria. Fuck Khazaars, and there money fuckery. America is not about how much money you have in the bake you are not your fucking job, you are a free Man in the greatest experment ever known, A constitutional Republic. can you keep it?
 
It's odd to hear this. Whether it's true or not; I can't recall anyone saying anything about creating more or updating or whatever our nuclear stockpile. Maybe I wasn't paying attention, because I know there was always talk about needing to update it as it still runs on old floppy disks and shit. But damn.
It was in the end of the year pork-filled Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2023. Considering how absurd that legislation was I want to guess only a handful of a few thousand people even know nuclear weapons got anything.

From Page 13 of the SUMMARY OF APPROPRIATIONS PROVISIONS BY SUBCOMMITTEE:
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Looking at the Act as well.
ATOMIC ENERGY DEFENSE ACTIVITIES

NATIONAL NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATION

Weapons Activities

For Department of Energy expenses, including the purchase,
construction, and acquisition of plant and capital equipment and other
incidental expenses necessary for atomic energy defense weapons
activities in carrying out the purposes of the Department of Energy
Organization Act (42 U.S.C. 7101 et seq.), including the acquisition or
condemnation of any real property or any facility or for plant or
facility acquisition, construction, or expansion, $17,116,119,000, to
remain available until expended: Provided, That of such amount,
$130,070,000 shall be available until September 30, 2024, for program
direction.

Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation

For Department of Energy expenses, including the purchase,
construction, and acquisition of plant and capital equipment and other
incidental expenses necessary for defense nuclear nonproliferation
activities, in carrying out the purposes of the Department of Energy
Organization Act (42 U.S.C. 7101 et seq.), including the acquisition or
condemnation of any real property or any facility or for plant or
facility acquisition, construction, or expansion, $2,490,000,000, to
remain available until expended.

Naval Reactors

(including transfer of funds)

For Department of Energy expenses necessary for naval reactors
activities to carry out the Department of Energy Organization Act (42
U.S.C. 7101 et seq.), including the acquisition (by purchase,
condemnation, construction, or otherwise) of real property, plant, and
capital equipment, facilities, and facility expansion, $2,081,445,000,
to remain available until expended, of which, $99,747,000 shall be
transferred to ``Department of Energy--Energy Programs--Nuclear
Energy'', for the Advanced Test Reactor: Provided, That of such
amount, $58,525,000 shall be available until September 30, 2024, for
program direction.

Federal Salaries and Expenses

For expenses necessary for Federal Salaries and Expenses in the
National Nuclear Security Administration, $475,000,000, to remain
available until September 30, 2024, including official reception and
representation expenses not to exceed $17,000.
That's $17,116,119,000 for weapons activities, more than requested, a little less than authorized, and a 7.5% increase over the $15,920,000,000 appropriated in the previous year.

Here's the authorization for FY2023:
Código:
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SEC. 4701. DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY NATIONAL SECURITY PROGRAMS (In Thousands
                               of Dollars)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                               FY 2023      Conference
                  Program                      Request      Authorized
------------------------------------------------------------------------

National Nuclear Security Administration
 
Weapons Activities
Stockpile management
Stockpile major modernization
      B61 Life extension program..........       672,019        672,019
      W88 Alteration program..............       162,057        162,057
      W80-4 Life extension program........     1,122,451      1,122,451
      W80-4 ALT SLCM......................             0         20,000
          Research and development for a                       (20,000)
           nuclear warhead for a nuclear-
           capable sea-launched cruise
           missile........................
      W87-1 Modification Program..........       680,127        680,127
      W93.................................       240,509        240,509
    Subtotal, Stockpile major                  2,877,163      2,897,163
     modernization........................
Stockpile sustainment.....................     1,321,139      1,321,139
Weapons dismantlement and disposition.....        50,966         50,966
Production operations.....................       630,894        630,894
Nuclear enterprise assurance..............        48,911         48,911
  Total, Stockpile management.............     4,929,073      4,949,073
 
Production Modernization
Primary Capability Modernization
  Plutonium Modernization
    Los Alamos Plutonium Modernization
          Los Alamos Plutonium Operations.       767,412        767,412
          21-D-512, Plutonium Pit                588,234        588,234
           Production Project, LANL.......
          15-D-302, TA-55 Reinvestments           30,002         30,002
           Project, Phase 3, LANL.........
          07-D-220-04, Transuranic Liquid         24,759         24,759
           Waste Facility, LANL...........
          04-D-125, Chemistry and                162,012        162,012
           Metallurgy Research Replacement
           Project, LANL..................
        Subtotal, Los Alamos Plutonium         1,572,419      1,572,419
         Modernization....................
    Savannah River Plutonium Modernization
          Savannah River Plutonium                58,300         58,300
           Operations.....................
          21-D-511, Savannah River               700,000      1,200,000
           Plutonium Processing Facility,
           SRS............................
              Program increase--glovebox                      (200,000)
               long lead procurement......
              Program increase--long lead                     (100,000)
               items......................
              Program increase--demolition                    (165,000)
               of MOX buildling...........
              Program increase--site prep.                     (35,000)
        Subtotal, Savannah River Plutonium       758,300      1,258,300
         Modernization....................
    Enterprise Plutonium Support..........        88,993         88,993
  Total, Plutonium Modernization..........     2,419,712      2,919,712
    High Explosives & Energetics
          High Explosives & Energetics....       101,380        101,380
          23-D-516, Energetic Materials           19,000         19,000
           Characterization Facility, LANL
          21-D-510, HE Synthesis,                108,000        133,000
           Formulation, and Production, PX
              Project risk reduction......                     (25,000)
          15-D-301, HE Science &                  20,000         30,000
           Engineering Facility, PX.......
              Project risk reduction......                     (10,000)
        Subtotal, High Explosives &              248,380        283,380
         Energetics.......................
Total, Primary Capability Modernization...     2,668,092      3,203,092
Secondary Capability Modernization
  Secondary Capability Modernization......       536,363        544,363
      Program increase--calciner..........                      (8,000)
  18-D-690, Lithium Processing Facility, Y-      216,886        216,886
   12.....................................
  06-D-141, Uranium Processing Facility, Y-      362,000        362,000
   12.....................................
Total, Secondary Capability Modernization.     1,115,249      1,123,249
Tritium and Domestic Uranium Enrichment
  Tritium and Domestic Uranium Enrichment.       506,649        506,649
  18-D-650, Tritium Finishing Facility,           73,300         73,300
   SRS....................................
Total, Tritium and Domestic Uranium              579,949        579,949
 Enrichment...............................
Non-Nuclear Capability Modernization......       123,084        123,084
Capability Based Investments..............       154,220        154,220
  Total, Production Modernization.........     4,640,594      5,183,594
 
Stockpile research, technology, and
 engineering
    Assessment Science
      Assessment Science..................       801,668        861,668
        Enhanced Capability for                                (60,000)
         Subcritical Experiments (ECSE)
         and Hydrodynamic and Subcritical
         Experiment Execution Support.....
      17-D-640, U1a Complex Enhancements          53,130         53,130
       Project, NNSS......................
    Total, Assessment Science.............       854,798        914,798
    Engineering and integrated assessments       366,455        366,455
    Inertial confinement fusion...........       544,095        624,095
      Program increase....................                     (80,000)
    Advanced simulation and computing.....       742,646        842,146
      Program increase....................                     (99,500)
    Weapon technology and manufacturing          286,165        296,165
     maturation...........................
      Program increase....................                     (10,000)
    Academic programs.....................       100,499        100,499
  Total, Stockpile research, technology,       2,894,658      3,144,158
   and engineering........................
 
Infrastructure and operations
    Operating
      Operations of facilities............     1,038,000      1,046,000
          Program increase................                      (8,000)
      Safety and Environmental Operations.       162,000        162,000
      Maintenance and Repair of Facilities       680,000        725,000
          Deferred maintenance............                     (45,000)
      Recapitalization
        Infrastructure and Safety.........       561,663        561,663
        Planning for Programmatic                      0              0
         Construction (Pre-CD-1)..........
      Subtotal, Recapitalization..........       561,663        561,663
    Total, Operating......................     2,441,663      2,494,663
    Mission enabling construction
      22-D-514 Digital Infrastructure             67,300         67,300
       Capability Expansion...............
      22-D-517 Electrical Power Capacity          24,000         24,000
       Upgrade, LANL......................
      22-D-518 Plutonium Modernization Ops        48,500         48,500
       & Waste Mngmt Office Bldg, LANL....
      23-D-519 Special Material Facility,         49,500         49,500
       Y-12...............................
    Total, Mission enabling construction..       189,300        189,300
  Total, Infrastructure and operations....     2,630,963      2,683,963
 
Secure transportation asset
    Operations and equipment..............       214,367        214,367
    Program direction.....................       130,070        130,070
  Total, Secure transportation asset......       344,437        344,437
 
Defense nuclear security
    Operations and maintenance............       878,363        878,363
    Construction:
      17-D-710, West end protected area            3,928         11,928
       reduction project, Y-12............
          Program increase................                      (8,000)
    Subtotal, Construction................         3,928         11,928
  Total, Defense nuclear security.........       882,291        890,291
 
Information technology and cybersecurity..       445,654        445,654
Legacy contractor pensions and settlement        114,632        114,632
 payments.................................
Total, Weapons Activities.................    16,882,302     17,755,802
 
Adjustments
    Use of prior year balances............      -396,004       -396,004
Total, Adjustments........................      -396,004       -396,004
Total, Weapons Activities.................    16,486,298     17,359,798
Now you know where your money's going.
 
The truth is there is no way out of this other than war. So take your shots get your UBI and eat your Cricket protein in your pod, because that is the future the country is sleep walking into.
This is what few people seem to understand. If you are the leadership of America believes their two options are revolution against them or WW3, which option will they choose?
 
Ukraine looks like America's testicles to me. The US decided to wave them at their opponent's face and then is totally surprised to feel getting kicked over and over again. All resources have to be spent into defending a place that shouldn't have been anywhere near the enemy to begin with and it ends with the US crumpled on the ground, crying and screaming how it's unfair they lost.
If nothing else it's a good place for shady dealings and black market goods, I'm sure a lot of the weapons sent are being rerouted to other areas and someone is pocketing all the profits. It's been known to happen in a lost of post-communist states, that's actually one of the problems hobbling the Russian military at this time. Been going on for years because little else offers a good paycheck in the region.
 
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