Berkeley moves toward removing police from traffic stops - There's no way this could turn out badly

The city of Berkeley, California, moved forward Wednesday with a proposal to eliminate police from conducting traffic stops and instead use unarmed civilian city workers as part of a broad overhaul of law enforcement. The City Council also set a goal of cutting the police budget by 50%.

The council approved the plan during a nine-hour virtual meeting that ended at 3 a.m., the East Bay Times reported.

The vote calls on the city manager to convene a “community engagement process” to pursue the creation of a separate department to handle transportation projects as well as enforcement of parking and traffic.

“For far too long public safety has been equated with more police,” said Mayor Jesse Arreguin.

It's believed the plan to separate traffic from law enforcement is the first of its kind in the U.S. and it comes as many cities attempt broad public safety reforms following the death of George Floyd while in Minneapolis police custody in May.

The reform plan also seeks to remove armed officers from homeless services and mental health and crisis management, the East Bay Times said. It also establishes a community safety coalition and steering committee, and initiates an analysis of police calls and responses. Details are to be determined by the city manager and auditor.

Numerous studies have shown Black motorists are much more likely to be stopped by police than whites for minor traffic infractions and the results sometimes can be deadly.

Philando Castile, for example, was fatally shot after the 32-year-old was stopped for a broken tail light during a traffic stop in 2016 in Minnesota. Sandra Bland, 28, died in a jail cell three days after being stopped for failing to signal when changing lanes in Texas in 2015.


The Berkeley Police Department said Monday it does not comment on council legislation.

In a joint statement, the police unions for Los Angeles, San Jose and San Francisco said that reckless driving, speeding, driving while under the influence are all dangerous “traffic” enforcement violations.

“We do not believe that the public wants lax enforcement of those incidents by non-sworn individuals," the unions said. "Traffic stops are some of the most dangerous actions police officers take. What happens when the felon with an illegal gun gets pulled over by the parking police? Nothing good, we’re sure of that.”


The largely affluent and progressive San Francisco suburb of 120,000 has led the country on environmental, cultural and equity issues. Last year the council voted to replace gender-specific words in the city code with gender-neutral terms, such as “maintenance hole” for “manhole” and “workforce” for “manpower.”

Whites make up 54% of the city’s population, followed by Asians at 20%, Latinos at 11% and Blacks at 8%. Yet African-Americans accounted for half of 608 traffic stops conducted by police between mid-March and mid-June this year, according to a City Council memo. White drivers accounted for nearly a quarter of all stops.

A 2018 report by the Center for Policing Equity, a research and advocacy group based in Los Angeles, found that Black and Latino drivers were stopped at higher rates than whites by Berkeley police.

“It’s hugely significant,” said Cheryl Phillips, co-founder of the Stanford Open Policing Project at Stanford University. “It has the potential to transform what is, I think, the most common interaction with police that people have.”

Data analyses by the open policing project also found that Black and Latino motorists were searched far more often than whites, Phillips said, but the searches turned up fewer drugs, guns and other contraband. She also said it’s notable that the racial disparity in stops decline after sunset, presumably because it is harder to see the race of a driver.

In California, Black drivers were stopped by law enforcement at 2.5 times the per-capita rate of whites and searched three times as often, according to a state report issued in January by the Racial and Identity Profiling Advisory Board. Officers were nearly three times as likely to search African Americans than whites, although white suspects were more likely to yield contraband or other evidence.

 
Well, he missed out on the federal police, which is essentially Customs and Border Protection and the U.S. Marshals. Which are border & customs agents that mainly go after immigrants and illegal drugs, and the latter are mainly tasked with serving warrants and handling prisoners.

Plus, Alaska misses out on the county level of law enforcement because they don't have counties. Consequently, the Alaskan State Troopers are stretched pretty thin. And speaking of counties, the sheriff department are traditionally tasked with managing the jail, serving warrants (although an lot of people can do this, but these guys are associated with the court), and being the bailiff of the court.
I'd like to add that the Marshals also have jurisdiction over federal lands, including that owned by the native tribes as sovereign land and our overseas territories like Guam, the Marianas, and Puerto Rico, protect courthouses, judges and other public officials, oversee Witness Security, and are responsible for extraditing foreign prisoners. Yes, this means the Marshals have plenty of experience dealing with drug lords and other scum fucks. Don't fuck with them.

Sheriffs as county-level law enforcement officers oversee unincorporated (non-city lands) that are part of their county in addition to serving warrants and acting as officers of the court and overseeing prisoners in custody, both at the courthouses and county jails.
 
These idiots who think traffic stops should be handled by unarmed social workers are absolutely fucking bonkers. There are so many LivePD clips you can watch—unedited!—on youtube showing how quickly traffic stops can escalate. You stop someone for a taillight out, but it turns out they're driving illegally, they don't have insurance, they have a bunch of used needles in their console and on the floor, they don't want to be caught in a crime, they have a gun, they want to do something to get out of it immediately, etc. etc. If you're lucky, they just accept defeat in an opioid induced haze. If you're unlucky, they blast you in the head when you look away for a second. You see and hear it happen literally all the time.

The left thinks all crime is sociologically explainable when the truth they don't want to admit is that a lot of it is pathological. They don't want to work as a subcontracted technician consultant for 25 and hour. They want to sling drugs, prostitute women, rise up in gangs, shoot other people for wearing the wrong colors in the wrong place, commit property destruction, or steal. For a lot of people, that's just the preferable lifestyle. Sure, you can help a lot of people committing drug-motivated crime by putting them in rehab and serious programs instead of cycling them through a prison system, but that's because they have an actual problem—not because they're too oppressed to seek help under a white supremacist, Christian, nationalist systemically racist state.

These programs might set off with much gusto and cheering, but you'll start to see tens if not hundreds of stories of traffic stops resulting in the entirely preventable deaths of state workers. I guarantee these slavish programs leftists are cheering about will fall apart at the seams within a year of their introduction. And it's because they entirely misunderstand the dynamics of crime and criminals. Fucking idiots.

I actually disagree, but not for the reasons you think. If it was unarmed social workers stopping them and they have what you describe, I think the driver will be less afraid of the social worker and not do anything. Just look at how certain crimes are viewed by leftists. Nothing is to be feared by the social worker since they have no arrest powers and can't cite the for anything else other than the traffic offense. I think if this passes, when a druggie is stopped by a social worker they will probably get warnings or citations from the social worker and perhaps a pamphlet about safe injection sites / needle exchange.
 
I actually disagree, but not for the reasons you think. If it was unarmed social workers stopping them and they have what you describe, I think the driver will be less afraid of the social worker and not do anything. Just look at how certain crimes are viewed by leftists. Nothing is to be feared by the social worker since they have no arrest powers and can't cite the for anything else other than the traffic offense. I think if this passes, when a druggie is stopped by a social worker they will probably get warnings or citations from the social worker and perhaps a pamphlet about safe injection sites / needle exchange.

Certainly this is up for discussion and will be proven one way or the other in the near future. But I still wouldn't try and underplay the lack of critical thought and planning present in the druggie's depleted brain cells. The first response for a drugged out addict committing multiple crimes during a traffic stop, even by the traffic version of a school counselor, will probably be "Oh shit, gotta get out of this any way I can." They don't know if the social worker will be calling the cops or returning with an AA pamphlet and letting them drive on their way while nodding off in a stupor.
 
Certainly this is up for discussion and will be proven one way or the other in the near future. But I still wouldn't try and underplay the lack of critical thought and planning present in the druggie's depleted brain cells. The first response for a drugged out addict committing multiple crimes during a traffic stop, even by the traffic version of a school counselor, will probably be "Oh shit, gotta get out of this any way I can." They don't know if the social worker will be calling the cops or returning with an AA pamphlet and letting them drive on their way while nodding off in a stupor.

Even assuming he's right, that's still not a good outcome. It would be the equivalent of lowering the crime rate by refusing to make arrests. Once people realize the social workers/not-police have no real power the situation will degrade until the real police are called back in.
 
Even assuming he's right, that's still not a good outcome. It would be the equivalent of lowering the crime rate by refusing to make arrests. Once people realize the social workers/not-police have no real power the situation will degrade until the real police are called back in.
I didn't even think of that...the lefties will say "See! It does work, look at our low crime rates!",but neglecting to say the rates are low because no one's been arrested/cited.
 
How long before they start sending out cops to escort the hapless meter maids now charged with traffic enforcement? Or better yet just arming the meter maids and turning them into basically cops with a really narrow scope of powers?
 
An update:
The Center Square) - The city of Berkeley, California, made national news with its police reform efforts last year.

The New York Times reported on Feb. 24, 2021, "Berkeley became what was believed to be the first city in the nation to plan to prohibit police officers from conducting traffic stops and shift that responsibility to unarmed members of a department of transportation."

HuffPost wrote, "Berkeley, California, To End Traffic Stops By Cops For Low-Level Offenses."

But those characterizations don't appear to be a completely accurate depiction of the city's efforts to reform policing, according to data released by the city on traffic stops and specifics on the new traffic enforcement initiative.

How a similar idea in Philadelphia turned out:
The officers will be responsible for helping mitigate traffic congestion by directing traffic during peak hours, providing enforcement for parking related issues that impede the flow of traffic, addressing issues with abandoned vehicles and providing traffic safety information to vulnerable populations.

So it seems like the noble plan to replace police for traffic stops met with absolute failure. At best, these new personnel are meter maids with a little bit more power.

Heck, they can't even write someone a ticket for a moving violation much less detain them for a stop.
 
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