🇮🇱 Is God an antisemite? - Since there is no good reason not to like us, is God’s disfavor toward the Jews something akin to the United Nations or the European Union, which just despise us irrationally?

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An Israeli soldier stands during a two-minute siren marking the annual Israeli Holocaust Remembrance Day, at an installation at the site of the Nova festival where party goers were killed and kidnapped during the October 7 attack by Hamas terrorists from Gaza, in Reim, southern Israel, May 6, 2024.

Traveling in Normandy for the 80th anniversary of the D-Day landings, I chanced upon many Israelis in Paris who saw my yarmulke and walked over to say hello.

Not a single one wore a kippah but baseball caps. “Europa malei b’antishemim – Europe is filled with antisemites.” So what? I asked. The one thing no one would call Israelis are cowards. “You guys are brave enough to fight Hamas but you’re too scared to go to the Louvre with a yarmulke?”

“For 2,000 years, Jews have been murdered in Europe. They’re all antisemites.”

For all the courage that Israelis exhibit – and there is no braver nation on earth – they still live in a Jewish bubble in the Middle East and when they venture out to a continent that they are convinced detests Jews, they want to avoid confrontation.

But what proves that Europe is antisemitic? Why, they have been murdering Jews for 2,000 years, right?

By the same token, might we say, God forbid, that the Creator is none too fond of Jews as well? After all, isn’t He the one who allowed Jews to be murdered for two millennia?

Let me be clear. I do not believe in God. Rather, I am certain there is a God. I am certain that God is the Creator of heaven and earth, Master of the Universe, and Controller of all history. Maimonides said there is no commandment to believe in God but to know that God exists.

Questioning not our faith, but if our God likes us​

I do know. It is a mathematical certainty. And October 7 did not shake my faith in God even one iota. But what it did do is make me question whether God likes Jews.

What does God want from us Jews? Why is it that He has seemingly broken so many promises to us? He says He loves us. Yet he allows us to be gang-raped, beheaded, disemboweled, slaughtered, and cremated. Might the Europeans not make the same argument? We love you to death!

Yes, He promised an ingathering of the exiles, and while the Messiah has not yet come, with the miraculous State of Israel, that has largely occurred. But October 7 shattered the founding principle of a Jewish state, namely, that once Jews are in their land, protected by their army, there would never again be mass murder of Jews or anything resembling a holocaust.

We waited for Israel for 2,000 years. Did God have to shatter the promise of security in our land so decisively?

Many argue that God has a plan and good things are going to emerge from October 7. Nissim Louk, the father of martyred Shani, said in our public discussion in New York, where I dedicated a Torah to my mother and his daughter’s sacred memory, that “Shani” means change, and “great and positive change will result from this massacre.” Nissim is a man of great faith. But whatever good may come of that horrible day, did it have to arise only as a consequence of his daughter being publicly defiled by monsters?

I cannot tell you how many thousands of people have told me that God had a great plan for the Holocaust.

Seriously? You mean, in some celestial sphere, far beyond our limited understanding, the gassing of one million children is somehow a good thing?

Did Israel get what it deserved?​

Others say Israel deserved what it got on October 7 because of the irrational hatred Israelis harbor for one another. But Americans hate each other just as much, but women in Manhattan were not punished, God forbid, with gang-rape at a Central Park concert.

And to those who say that we Jews are sinful and don’t keep the Torah, give me a break. There is no nation on earth so faithful as the Jews. Even after Auschwitz, we continue to put on tefillin, eat kosher, and send our kids to Jewish day schools. No nation on earth has even approximated the loyalty of the Jews to God even when it seems He does not reciprocate.

Which brings me back to my original question. Is God an antisemite? Since there is no good reason not to like us, is God’s disfavor toward the Jews something akin to the United Nations or the European Union, which just despise us irrationally?

And while I understand the amorality of the UN and the laughingstock it has become with countries like North Korea and Russia on its Human Rights Council, the same cannot be said of God, who is the source of all morality. Must He Himself not act morally?

Abraham said to God, “Will the Judge of the whole earth not Himself practice justice?” Moses went even further, threatening God to abandon the Torah completely if God exterminated the Jews. “If You annihilate them, I beseech You, remove my name from the book You have written.”

I have no idea what God is up to with the global resurgence of antisemitism. Yes, humanity has freedom of choice, and those who choose to hate the Jews – like the maggot mullahs of Iran – are culpable for their hatred. But if God did not will it, even amid their attempts at murdering Jews, they would not be able to harm a hair on a baby in Nir Oz or Sderot.

Why has God allowed all this garbage to come back? Were six million Jewish martyrs not enough?

Next week is the 30th anniversary of the death of the Rebbe. In one of his last public addresses, the Rebbe spoke of the rape and murder of a young mother in Crown Heights. He looked up at the heavens and sparred with God before a global audience of listeners. “Zechutz korbanos?” “Lord, do you need more sacrifices? “Ad matai?” Will it ever be enough?

In Deuteronomy, Moses famously says, “the hidden things are for God. But the revealed things are for us and our children.” After October 7, I have no idea what God is up to. With two sons at war in Israel, I shake and shudder, mourn and grieve for every murdered IDF hero. Must another few thousand 20-year-old Jewish boys die before God’s thirst is quenched?

But none of that is my business. My job is to protest God’s seeming inaction, demand that He show himself in history – as He did on the day that four hostages were rescued and when the demonic president of Iran was roasted in a helicopter crash – and finally protect his people.

Is God an antisemite? My role is not to answer that question but to pray to him defiantly that He ceases giving any party even a hint that this may be so.

I don’t understand why the world hates Jews. But my job is not to understand but to fight, to explain, to debate, and to win. My job is to be an Israelite, “he who wrestles with God.” My role is to keep the Sabbath whenever God seemingly allows it to be violated, as on October 7. My job is to honor my wife and respect women even when God seemingly allows monsters to violate women. My six daughters’ mission is to light the Sabbath candles and dispel the darkness even when God seemingly extinguishes hope as He did on October 7. And my job is to fight for Israel and support the IDF even when God seemingly allows their lives to slip through His fingers.

No, God is not an antisemite. The very fact that the Jewish people still exist proves it. But it’s high time that he started showing His love rather than just talking about it.

The writer is the international best-selling author of the newly published guide to fighting back for Israel, The Israel Warrior. Follow him on Instagram and Twitter @RabbiShmuley.
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There's a difference between civil disputes without hatred and disputes that create a lot of hatred.
Right. What are these disputes you speak of, and by any chance are they related to things which impede the progress of Zionism, be they bans on Zionist orgs or not letting Netanyahu get whatever he wants.
Which is why Israel gave away the Sinai. Take your meds, greater Israel isn't a thing.
The Torah spells out the borders of Israel, and the Talmud reiterates how holy Eretz Yisrael is. Just because modern Israel had to be pragmatic about it doesn't mean a thing. There's pictures of IDF soldiers (servants of an idol according to you) brutalizing Jewish children in Sinai to get them out of there.
Saying that it was a punishment isn't cheering on their murders, it's a statement of fact.
You believe G-d is holy and perfect and so are all his actions. Ergo you must celebrate his punishment and you must call for more punishment on that level.
 
What are these disputes you speak of, and by any chance are they related to things which impede the progress of Zionism, be they bans on Zionist orgs or not letting Netanyahu get whatever he wants.
For example the Haredi draft or the court reforms. Both created a lot of anger and hatred in Israeli society

The Torah spells out the borders of Israel, and the Talmud reiterates how holy Eretz Yisrael is.
The borders of biblical Israel are where they were when David/Solomon ruled

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Outside of biblical Israel, Jews keep 2 days of holidays instead of 1. Your assertation is wrong because Jews in Eilat and egypt keep 2 days.


There's pictures of IDF soldiers (servants of an idol according to you)
You clearly didn't understand what I said, referred to the IDF as an idol because the Israelis thought that with only the IDF they didn't have to worry about God.


Ergo you must celebrate his punishment and you must call for more punishment on that level.
Why should I celebrate a punishment and why should I call for more on that level? You're making weird assumptions.
 
Others say Israel deserved what it got on October 7 because of the irrational hatred Israelis harbor for one another. But Americans hate each other just as much, but women in Manhattan were not punished, God forbid, with gang-rape at a Central Park concert.
Is this a threat?
"Sure would be a shame if hordes of barbarians raped your women in your nice American, big city parks"
It already happens, thanks to policies that are not only soft on crime, but also all the policies to make sure as many undocumented foreign men that can possibly be turned loose on the public are let in with open arms.
Not just in America either. In Europe, rapes and assaults shot up like a cartoon chart that shoots off the page, once they started letting all the invading migrants in. Some of which did indeed happen at concerts and festivals. But that wouldn't have anything to do with Jewish people. Certainly not George Soros and his "foundations" pushing for the destruction of the West. And when people started to notice and share information, it wasn't allowed because it's "anti-Semitic" to dislike the actions of a single Jewish man. It's all just a baseless and unfounded MAGA conspiracy, created by Neo-Nazis. Every media outlet rallied around that bitter old creep and nobody had the balls to call out what was going on. Only now that he's funding pro Palestine protests does it get a mention.

My job is to honor my wife and respect women even when God seemingly allows monsters to violate women.
Who owns Onlyfans?
Who owns ALL the porn companies?
Christians? Muslims? Buddhists? Hindus?
 
For example the Haredi draft or the court reforms. Both created a lot of anger and hatred in Israeli society
Right, things that get in the way of Zionism are bad. Damn those Jews for wanting to study the Talmud all day or those leftists who don't want to give Bibi more power! You made G-d send Hamas to kill 1,000+ people!

Such curious logic.
The borders of biblical Israel are where they were when David/Solomon ruled
Nope, the borders of Eretz Yisrael were established when G-d gave the land to Abraham. Bereshit (Genesis) 15:18: On that day, the Lord formed a covenant with Abram, saying, "To your seed I have given this land, from the river of Egypt until the great river, the Euphrates river." The rest of Bereshit 15 gives a lengthy list of tribes Abraham's heirs (Jews) will rule, mostly those in modern Jordan and Syria. And here's Shemot (Exodus) 23:31 "I will set your borders from the Sea of Reeds to the Sea of Philistia, and from the wilderness to the Euphrates; for I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hands, and you will drive them out before you."

Nothing to do with David and Solomon. This is like Torah 101, didn't your rabbi teach you this? Feel free to show me where the Talmud proves me wrong, since the Talmud backs me on this too.
Why should I celebrate a punishment and why should I call for more on that level? You're making weird assumptions.
Because you think G-d is holy and justly disciplines his chosen people. Therefore Hitler and Hamas are tools of divine justice and you must support them, because G-d ordains it. I think it's weird too, but I didn't make a post criticizing the Jewish guy who wrote this for saying G-d wasn't an antisemite who sent Hamas and the Nazis to punish Jews for worshipping the IDF.
 
Right, things that get in the way of Zionism are bad. Damn those Jews for wanting to study the Talmud all day or those leftists who don't want to give Bibi more power! You made G-d send Hamas to kill 1,000+ people!
>Court reform is in the way of Zionism

How

Nothing to do with David and Solomon. This is like Torah 101, didn't your rabbi teach you this? Feel free to show me where the Talmud proves me wrong, since the Talmud backs me on this too.
Read more Talmud and you'll see I'm right,

Mishnah Gittin 1:2 states

From Rekem and eastward, including Rekem [is not Israel]; from Ashkelon and southward, including Ashkelon; from Ako and northward; Rabbi Yehudah considers Ako itself outside, Rabbi Meir disagrees.

The attached PDF goes into far more detail

you must support them, because G-d ordains it.
This is pretty stupid. You accept the punishment but in no way are you required to support the people doing the punishment
 

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But what proves that Europe is antisemitic? Why, they have been murdering Jews for 2,000 years, right?
That's right, for no reason at all.
Let me be clear. I do not believe in God. Rather, I am certain there is a God. I am certain that God is the Creator of heaven and earth, Master of the Universe, and Controller of all history. Maimonides said there is no commandment to believe in God but to know that God exists.
I think the First Commandment kind of mother nullifies this Maimonides fellow.
 
"Understand, then, that it is not because of your righteousness that the Lord your God is giving you this good land to possess, for you are a stiff-necked people" -Deuteronomy 9:6

God to the Jews: "listen up you little shits, I'm not giving you this land because you're better than everyone else, but rather that everyone in these lands are worse than you. Don't be too proud as to develop a superiority complex."

*5 minute later*

"Shiiiet...well maybe if I send my only Son to put them back on course, they could be dissuaded from being proud, stubborn, and arrogant. Looking at you Pharisees!"

*they crucify Him*
 
I love how a simple concert massacre has made them so terrified and psychotic that they are now turning against God itself.
You didn't see 9/11 make Americans atheistic or deny God, you didn't see the Sack of Rome or the 30 years war turn Europe against religion, etc.
This article is a gem:
What does God want from us Jews? Why is it that He has seemingly broken so many promises to us? He says He loves us. Yet he allows us to be gang-raped, beheaded, disemboweled, slaughtered, and cremated. Might the Europeans not make the same argument? We love you to death!
This my favorite quote, this incestuous, arrogant, sociopathic people believe God itself owns them favors, not even Pharaohs or Roman emperors believed themselves able demand divine intervention, they only hoped to be deified and join the pantheon once they expired.
Let me be clear. I do not believe in God. Rather, I am certain there is a God. I am certain that God is the Creator of heaven and earth, Master of the Universe, and Controller of all history. Maimonides said there is no commandment to believe in God but to know that God exists.
It's amazing there's still retards who scream Judeo-Christian when a Rabbi says this, this is as similar to Christianity or other Abrahamic religions as fetlife is to a catholic nun website.
And to those who say that we Jews are sinful and don’t keep the Torah, give me a break. There is no nation on earth so faithful as the Jews. Even after Auschwitz, we continue to put on tefillin, eat kosher, and send our kids to Jewish day schools. No nation on earth has even approximated the loyalty of the Jews to God even when it seems He does not reciprocate.
Again, to jews, its all about themselves, me, me, and me, to even God itself, they forget Moses wandered for 40 years in the desert for the promised Land, or How God itself sent his only son to be crucified in a painful death for their redemption.


It was not /pol/ that made me antisemitic, its not some sped screaming about kikes, it wasnt reading Mein Kampf as a edgy teenager, it was reading shit like this that turned me, it was seeing their behaviors, their own words.
There is legitimately in my eyes, no sicker, no more depraved race in existence, it isn't a lack of impulse control or cultural taboos that allows them to be like this, it's their own pure wickedness and intelligence, that makes them gaslight even God itself of their own sins.
 
Yet he allows us to be gang-raped, beheaded, disemboweled, slaughtered, and cremated. Might the Europeans not make the same argument? We love you to death!
And yet you persist in dwelling among Europeans.

Fascinating, that.
Even after Auschwitz
Who weeps for the Canaanites?
Since there is no good reason not to like us
Bruh...
 
Jesus was a Jew
Jesus was essentially the son of God and only incidentally a jew. (In other words, you can imagine Jesus to be a non-jew, but you cannot imagine Jesus not to be the son of God). God knows that there is literally zero chance to get his message across the "chosen people" if His Earthly minster were not jewish. Turns out the "chosen people" chose to reject the message even if delivered by one of their kind.
 
Its honestly just a rabbi engaging in a theodicy discussion. One thing I did notice was the unease regarding the safety of Israel, wasn't Israel supposed to be a safe place for the Jews after 2,000 years of persecution?

Well it turns out Israel isn't guaranteed to always win.
 
You can’t keep the letter of the law and break the spirit. There’s no point saying hey look I follow all the dietary rules when round the back your entire religion is loophole and sticking two fingers up at the rest of the rules.

Modern Christianity, especially the dispensationalists, like to pretend that after Rome destroyed the 2nd temple the pharisees whom Christ explicitly condemned simply disappeared from history and the modern forms of Judaism are pleasing to God. No, they didn't go away and the rules lawyering traditions that selectively broke the law got rolled into the Talmud that Rabbinic Judaism uses to interpret the law.

Grifters like Ben Shapiro speak to this fake judeo-christian consensus where both are under the 10 commandments. That is absolute bullshit because Judaism and Christianity view the 10 commandments in two polar opposite ways . Most protestant and catholic branches of Christianity interpret the 10 commandments as an all expansive list of sins covering thought, word, and deed. Look a women lustfully, that is adultery. Harbor a hatred for someone, that is murder in your heart.

Judaism with the Talmud took the 10 commandments and added a long list of exemptions depending on who the victim is... It isn't adultery if your rape an infant or small child, like tears in the baby's eyes that appear during the process of sexual violation, so too is the renewal of its virginity. If gentile shopkeeper accidentally gives you excess change, it is non theft to keep it. Likewise if a Jewish businessman "accidentally" overcharges a gentile, they are not required to make reparation. A Jew can find something they know you lost, keep it, but because you are a goy and they didn't physically remove it from your person, its not theft. These very same people will complain about antisemitic Jewish stereotypes when these behaviors are permitted by their own traditions.
 
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