Avengers: Endgame - This is the end, beautiful friend

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My body just automatically got up during
the funeral scene (during the scene where i think it was Coulson (i don't remember if that is how his name is written) talking to Tony daughter
and i think i mentally blacked out or something because suddendly next times i know i'm sitting down calming down, i had been bottling up emotions for a while now and it was too much at that time.
If anyone rate me autistic i won't disagree, i don't know why i even reacted like that over a fictional character
 
Zaryiu dijo:
My body just automatically got up during
the funeral scene (during the scene where i think it was Coulson (i don't remember if that is how his name is written) talking to Tony daughter
and i think i mentally blacked out or something because suddendly next times i know i'm sitting down calming down, i had been bottling up emotions for a while now and it was too much at that time.
If anyone rate me autistic i won't disagree, i don't know why i even reacted like that over a fictional character
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I think if a movie can mange that sort of reaction, it did it’s job incredibly well.
 
Zaryiu dijo:
...I think it was Coulson (i don't remember if that is how his name is written) talking to Tony daughter
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That was Happy Hogan. Idk what happened to Coulson because I stopped watching Agents of SHIELD fairly early on when it became clear that it had no bearing at all on the rest of the MCU (and was basically a capeshit soap opera), but to my knowledge Coulson has not been in any MCU film since the original Avengers movie where he died. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Unrelated.
I was thinking a bit more about the major plot hole, and my biggest problem with Endgame: Namely, Cap going back in time and living a life with Peggy. I've seen people try to hand wave this plothole away, but it still really bugs me... because as much as I loved that ending for Cap, it literally undermines the very nature of time travel that the movie put forth. (If you change the past, then you create an alternate universe...) I.e. By living with Peggy, Steve should have created a new alternate universe when he did this, so there shouldn't be an old Steve (who was presumably there all along) surprisingly coming back at the end- He should be old in that alternate universe.

It would have been so easy to fill that plot hole too, just have Professor Hulk bring back Old Steve on the pad.- i.e. Have it so that Steve lived in the alternate universe created when he went back in time and "got a life" with Peggy, he could have even changed that universe for the better by using his foreknowledge, with literally no alteration to the timeline because different universe... (Dismantle Hydra before it even starts, save Bucky, gather heroes together before they were originally gathered in the MCU to take out threats that he knew were coming, etc) then after Peggy dies, he could still use the Pym particles to return to his original universe to pass on the shield to blah Captain Falcon. If my take is wrong, please tell me why.
 
SteelPlatedHeart dijo:
I think if a movie can mange that sort of reaction, it did it’s job incredibly well.
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I this it's because i have seen every movie
Tony
was in and i along many other got to see his character arc from a selfish asshole to willing to die to save everyone and i got attached to him (along with the others)
 
Zaryiu dijo:
I this it's because i have seen every movie
Tony
was in and i along many other got to see his character arc from a selfish asshole to willing to die to save everyone and i got attached to him (along with the others)
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How did you not know who Happy Hogan was then? He's been in literally every Iron Man movie, even the secondary ones like Spiderman Homecoming.
From the trailer, it looks like he'll be in the new Spiderman movie too.
 
KillThemCrackasBabies dijo:
Are you seriously annoyed at people for not getting mad at superhero movies?

"Folded" from what? How is it folding when half of the people here completely dismissed "Woke Brie" from the onset and the other half busted her balls but were content to just like the shit they're interested in and ignoring the shit they aren't.
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Exactly. My issue with Captain Marvel, above all else, was that I was terrified that she was going to ruin Endgame (since I disliked her movie so much).

She didn't ruin Endgame. At all. In fact, the MCU did the opposite of messing it up, and it gave me an ending that shockingly moved me to tears. Oh no, I enjoyed something! Stop the presses!

I'm going to continue to watch the MCU until it crumbles. And when it does crumble (and I personally see that happening sooner than later), I'll simply stop watching and be content with the COMPLETE Saga that we all were just given.
 
StarkRavingMad dijo:
Exactly. My issue with Captain Marvel, above all else, was that I was terrified that she was going to ruin Endgame (since I disliked her movie so much).

She didn't ruin Endgame. At all. In fact, the MCU did the opposite of messing it up, and it gave me an ending that shockingly moved me to tears. Oh no, I enjoyed something! Stop the presses!

I'm going to continue to watch the MCU until it crumbles. And when it does crumble (and I personally see that happening sooner than later), I'll simply stop watching and be content with the COMPLETE Saga that we all were just given.
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Yep, people were extremely worried that Captain Marvel was going to come in and easily kill Thanos with no help, making all the other Avengers look like jokes, and pretty much invalidating all the other movies’s buildup to this point. Fears were filed with the rumors of the Russos being forced to add her to the movie by Feige as well as the later’s insistence that Captain Marvel would be the face of the Avengers from here on out.

Thankfully those fears proved to be unneeded, but I think that’s where a good amount of the vitriol came from towards Captain Marvel. Larson’s comments off-set and opinions on her ability to carry her movie being divided also didn’t help much.
 
SteelPlatedHeart dijo:
Yep, people were extremely worried that Captain Marvel was going to come in and easily kill Thanos with no help, making all the other Avengers look like jokes, and pretty much invalidating all the other movies’s buildup to this point. Fears were filed with the rumors of the Russos being forced to add her to the movie by Feige as well as the later’s insistence that Captain Marvel would be the face of the Avengers from here on out.

Thankfully those fears proved to be unneeded, but I think that’s where a good amount of the vitriol came from towards Captain Marvel. Larson’s comments off-set and opinions on her ability to carry her movie being divided also didn’t help much.
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Pretty much! While promoting Captain Marvel, Brie Larson didn't seem respectful for the characters that came before her. She just swoops in with her random, crappy movie JUST before the finale happens and is all like "I'm the best, and the strongest. Deal with it." Even without her feminist angle, this approach was just so off-putting for so many fans. They say that it takes years to develop a great story, and seconds to completely destroy it ... THIS is the one of the biggest reasons as to why the fans were worried and vitriolic.

As a lifelong, avid fan of Marvel Comics, I honestly wouldn't have been happy if the MCU had followed the comics too closely and did the Adam Warlock thing. Accurate to the comics? Absolutely! However, it would have been a disservice to the MCU's 11-year narrative to have what is essentially a deus ex machina to come in and save the day. It wouldn't have worked on film, plain and simple. I was very fearful that Captain Marvel was actually going to be the "Adam Warlock" of the MCU because of how powerful they made her (she ain't THAT powerful in the comics!). I breathed a huge sigh of relief when that didn't happen in the movie at all.

I'm a fan for a reason. The MCU has given me something special as a big Marvel Comics fan. If they make something I like, I'll say it. If they make something I hate, I'll say it (which I have already).
 
A Welsh Cake dijo:
While Brie Larson does have fungal nail infections with the consistency of cheese, I would have sex with her (not her feet though, that shit's nasty.)
Though Mantis is still the best MCU girl.
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Pepper Potts is still best MCU girl for putting up with Tony's bullshit shenanigans, even if she's played by an absolute nutbar.

The scene from Iron Man still makes me grin, when Pepper walks in on Tony while he's getting his (slightly battered) Iron Man suit removed.

Pepper: "What's going on here?"
Tony: "Let's face it. This is not the worst thing you've caught me doing."
 
Capsaicin Addict dijo:
Pepper Potts is still best MCU girl for putting up with Tony's bullshit shenanigans, even if she's played by an absolute nutbar.

The scene from Iron Man still makes me grin, when Pepper walks in on Tony while he's getting his (slightly battered) Iron Man suit removed.

Pepper: "What's going on here?"
Tony: "Let's face it. This is not the worst thing you've caught me doing."
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The problem with Pepper was that she was one of those characters that the script would flip-flop on whenever the plot demanded it. switching between being supportive of Tony/Iron Man but having legitimate concerns about his safety, to acting like the Iron Man suits are model train sets Tony's way too invested in. Iron Man 3 is probably the worst of it, though another example that was jarring is going from Civil War where Pepper having left Tony "for realsies this time" is played up for maximum drama, only for her to have apparently accepted a proposal from him the very next film and then becoming his fiance in IW like the whole Civil War thing never happened.

Besides Nebula's best girl.
 
StarkRavingMad dijo:
Pretty much! While promoting Captain Marvel, Brie Larson didn't seem respectful for the characters that came before her. She just swoops in with her random, crappy movie JUST before the finale happens and is all like "I'm the best, and the strongest. Deal with it." Even without her feminist angle, this approach was just so off-putting for so many fans. They say that it takes years to develop a great story, and seconds to completely destroy it ... THIS is the one of the biggest reasons as to why the fans were worried and vitriolic.

As a lifelong, avid fan of Marvel Comics, I honestly wouldn't have been happy if the MCU had followed the comics too closely and did the Adam Warlock thing. Accurate to the comics? Absolutely! However, it would have been a disservice to the MCU's 11-year narrative to have what is essentially a deus ex machina to come in and save the day. It wouldn't have worked on film, plain and simple. I was very fearful that Captain Marvel was actually going to be the "Adam Warlock" of the MCU because of how powerful they made her (she ain't THAT powerful in the comics!). I breathed a huge sigh of relief when that didn't happen in the movie at all.

I'm a fan for a reason. The MCU has given me something special as a big Marvel Comics fan. If they make something I like, I'll say it. If they make something I hate, I'll say it (which I have already).
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True, without years of "Warlock = Soul Stone Guy" buildup he would have stood out oddly since his MCU presence has just been some cameos based around his giant turd Him pod.
 
My favorite MCU girls:

-Peggy
-Pepper
-Nebula
-Black Widow

I know that some people are questioning Pepper's character in Endgame, wondering why she was so supportive of Tony following through with the Time Heist, after spending so many movies wanting him to essentially stop. To me, I think it just means that the Snap changed everything for everyone. There's "You're obsessed with being Iron Man" and then there's "Half of the universe is gone. Maybe we can help them? (emphasis on 'we' since she wore the Rescue armor)"

I think the Snap made her understand Tony's drive to be Iron Man, I'd say.

Also, the Rescue suit is freaking awesome, and I want one. lol.
 
One Man Bland dijo:
another example that was jarring is going from Civil War where Pepper having left Tony "for realsies this time" is played up for maximum drama, only for her to have apparently accepted a proposal from him the very next film and then becoming his fiance in IW like the whole Civil War thing never happened.
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It doesn't stop it from being jarring, but iirc the reason why that happened was because Pepper's actress wanted out of the MCU, and was seemingly not interested in returning. Then out of nowhere she was fine with coming back for a few more movies.
 
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