Avengers: Endgame - This is the end, beautiful friend

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Just got out of the theater, the Russos did a great job with the film. Their handling of Captain Marvel is pretty masterful and at least sets a good middle ground for both fans and haters of the character.

As for everything else, the movie is a good love letter to the fans of the MCU.

Danvers is shown as poweful, but they let her shuffle off for most of the film with off-screen busy work. She also does not land the final blow.
 
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Qi Meng Dealer dijo:
Just got out of the theater, the Russos did a great job with the film. Their handling of Captain Marvel is pretty masterful and at least sets a good middle ground for both fans and haters of the character.

As for everything else, the movie is a good love letter to the fans of the MCU.

Danvers is shown as poweful, but they let her shuffle off for most of the film with off-screen busy work. She also does not land the final blow.
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My man. Please, my man. I need to know, spoilers be damned.

Was it Nebula?
 
Shitassdeaddude dijo:
My man. Please, my man. I need to know, spoilers be damned.

Was it Nebula?
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Nope. Iron Man did the deed, and everything is all right in the world. I mean, I know Nebula did it in the comics, but Stark doing the deed feels like a full circle of sorts for the MCU.
 
Just saw it. I thought it was very good. Kept the focus on the old characters and had good sendoffs for several of them. Brie Larson is barely in it. I'm sure it can be nitpicked to death, but don't worry about it being anything approaching a Last Jedi situation.

The biggest legit complaint could be that it gets a tad convoluted , but that tends to happen in these.
 
Stab You in the Back dijo:
Is Heimdall and the Asgard crew not brought back? Why is Valkyrie named queen over literally anyone else?
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Only the people who died in the snap came back. The Asgardians were fucked pretty hard by Thanos beforehand and have been reduced to a small fishing village of survivors. There is no evidence any notable Asgardians except Thor and whats-her-face survived. This is an incredibly small plot point and was clearly intended to cut Thor loose from storylines involving Asgard in the future (he is set up to do something else and she becomes queen mostly because he says "fuck it, I'm out") rather than setting up woke lady Thor as a franchise.
The time travel shenanigans are not as hard to follow as some would make out though I can see it flying over some people's (NORMIES) heads. They don't go willy-nilly with it because their premise is that changing the timeline just creates an alternate reality. So if they travel back to prevent the snap from happening in the first place that's nice and everything, but everyone in their reality is still dead or screwed. Their goal is to fix their present reality, not to un-do the past, and the time travel is a means towards accomplishing that goal.
 
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The Nothingness dijo:
If everyone who died prior to The Snap is still dead, does that include Gamora?
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Kind of. There is an alternate-reality Gamora running around now but with none of the experiences that prime Gamora had. Prime Gamora is extra-perma-dead on account of the soul stone. They actually touch on the gauntlet not being able to bring back soul stone sacrifices.
 
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friedshrimp dijo:
Can we expect massive meltdowns from a lot of people? Base on what you folks say the movie sounds good but base on a few spoilers, I imagine a lot of fanboys and Tumblr fangirls are gonna get Last Jedi'd with this film.
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Fanboys are preemptively melting down over the endings for several major characters. In one case, it is a sad ending and there are autists screeching that they wanted a happy ending for said character. In another case, there is arguably character development undone from a previous movie but that character is clearly sticking around and going in a different direction. With another, the character's story was wrapped up in a way that works best if you don't think about it too much but still probably isn't worth getting worked up about.

The movie definitely avoided the most obvious traps, but spergs are going to sperg. I'm not sure there is much the Tumblrina crowd will have to complain about aside from boilerplate objections about "there should have been more womyn" and stuff of that nature that they say about any movie.
 
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The thing about Widow and "real" Gamora is gonna make them angry. Even I know they'll get annoyed over their waifu Carol having less screen time. Also, Loki. Loki fangirls are just a thing of their own. I knew so many of them threw massive tantrums over him dying at the start of Infinity War, if things go the way they do they'll not be happy with how he's featured here.
 
SkeletonBias420 dijo:
I'm not sure there is much the Tumblrina crowd will have to complain about aside from boilerplate objections about "there should have been more womyn" and stuff of that nature that they say about any movie.
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From my last post I made on the MCU thread, they will probably get what they want in the Phase 4 movies. Not sure if that will cause the MCU to take a nose dive like Star Wars has.
 
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The time travel shenanigans are not as hard to follow as some would make out though I can see it flying over some people's (NORMIES) heads. They don't go willy-nilly with it because their premise is that changing the timeline just creates an alternate reality. So if they travel back to prevent the snap from happening in the first place that's nice and everything, but everyone in their reality is still dead or screwed. Their goal is to fix their present reality, not to un-do the past, and the time travel is a means towards accomplishing that goal.
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OK, I'm a normie.
Won't this simply branch off an alternate reality with alternate versions of absolutely everyone? If you travel to the past but don't jump into your own past body, there's now an alt-you, who shares a past with you up to your arrival, after which the timeline branches off and both of you experience the alt version from different viewpoints. You can't travel to the past again from reality 2 on the stardate of your departure to stabilize the loop, because it'd require infinite iterations with you having instantly gotten infinitely older. You can't send alt-you to the past in your place, because the you who arrived at the past lived through the snap in reality 1 and the alt-you didn't. This shit isn't ever going to collapse into a stable narrative.
 
friedshrimp dijo:
Can we expect massive meltdowns from a lot of people? Base on what you folks say the movie sounds good but base on a few spoilers, I imagine a lot of fanboys and Tumblr fangirls are gonna get Last Jedi'd with this film.
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It's already happening.

Cap going back in time to be with Peggy and Thor not becoming the king is already pissing people off, same with Nat dying.

I gotta give it to the Russos for having balls.
 
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