Disaster ATLANTIC: The Silence Doctors Are Keeping About Millennial Deaths - But what is a full life? How does anyone know that a young person hasn’t lived fully, or that an older person has?

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The Silence Doctors Are Keeping About Millennial Deaths​

Physicians who care for younger cancer patients are shying away from hard but necessary conversations.
By Sunita Puri

Several years ago, in my work as a palliative-care doctor, I cared for a man in his 60s who had been mostly healthy before he was diagnosed with stomach cancer. After three different treatments had failed him, his oncologist and I told him that a fourth treatment might buy him a few weeks at best. “Send me back to Boston,” he said immediately. He wanted to smell the Atlantic, see his childhood home. He made it there, dying a week later.
My patient died on his own terms: He was comfortable, fully informed about his worsening cancer, and able to decide where he wanted to die, whom he wanted to be with. This is the type of proverbial “good death” that our medical system is slowly learning to strive for—but not necessarily for younger people.

In the hospital room next to this man was a young mother who, like me, was in her 30s. We bonded over our love of ’90s music and the Southern California beaches where we’d built sandcastles as children and stayed out late as teenagers. She, too, was dying of Stage 4 stomach cancer; I first met her when her oncology team asked if I could help manage her pain and nausea. She would rest her hands on her protruding belly, swollen with fluid and gas because cancer blocked her bowels; she couldn’t eat, so medications and liquid nutrition dripped through a large catheter threaded up a blood vessel in her arm and into her heart.

Like her older neighbor, she had been through many different treatments, which had failed. Yet when she asked her oncologist how much time the next medication might buy her, I remember him telling her that he didn’t have a crystal ball while encouraging her to stay positive: She had made it through other harsh treatments, and she still had promising options. Her husband reminded her that she had a lot to live for.

Conversations like this one are happening every day: An unprecedented number of young Americans are dying of cancers typically found in older people, with diagnoses rising most rapidly among those in their 30s. Millennials born in 1990—at the peak of the generation—are twice as likely to develop colon cancer as Baby Boomers born in 1950. Younger adults are being diagnosed with cancers at more advanced stages, and may suffer from more aggressive tumors than older adults. In my work caring for these patients, I have seen the ways their age influences how their medical teams and families view them, the choices about treatment we hope they will make, the silence we maintain around their mortality. Their youth can become a justification to pursue physically devastating and at times ineffective treatment; the unspoken assumption is that they want to extend their life as long as possible, regardless of its quality.

My patient knew that her cancer was incurable, that every time one treatment stopped working, the next one was likely to be harsher and less effective. Though she had once found consolation in the possibility of more treatment, she now feared that it might worsen her struggle to make it through each day. Yet even as her cancer grew, both her doctors and her family hesitated to talk with her about the inevitability of her death, and what she wanted the rest of her life to look like.

Younger adults face unique stressors when they are diagnosed with cancer: They might worry about whether they will be able to have children or see their children grow up. They may not have stable health insurance or be able to finish school. And they must face sudden uncertainty and grief while watching their peers move forward in their jobs and relationships. Physicians’ efforts to be sensitive to this constellation of losses by delaying emotionally charged conversations may be well intentioned, but that instinct hurts younger patients in a different way, by depriving them of information and choices offered more easily to older patients.

And young patients want information about their prognosis and the opportunity to share how they’d like to be cared for at the end of their life. Without these discussions, many suffer through situations they wanted to avoid, such as dying in the ICU instead of at home, and physicians may overtreat younger people with harsher and sometimes unproven therapy strategies not offered as readily to older patients. Those treatments help even younger people survive only marginally longer.

My patient’s oncologist believed that her body and healthy organs could endure toxic therapies; the question of whether she could endure, let alone enjoy, the life she was living came a distant second. Just because the majority of her organs still worked didn’t mean that she’d want more treatment, or that more treatment would help her to live the life she wanted.

Still, her family wanted her to have every possible chance, even though she struggled to play with her son, who mostly saw her sick or asleep. “A chance for what?” she asked me, gesturing at her bruised arms and a bin filled with vomit. She craved freedom from hospitals and chemotherapy suites. She didn’t know if she was allowed to want that.

Physicians’ own understandable feelings sometimes delay these discussions. Abby Rosenberg, a pediatric oncologist at Boston Children’s Hospital, has spoken about how physicians sometimes avoid starting distressing conversations because “we love our patients and don’t want to cause them pain or harm,” only to find that this “delay tactic ends up causing more distress down the road.” Many doctors feel a profound sense of guilt and failure when they cannot save a young patient’s life.

Yet age cannot stop the advance of Stage 4 cancer or change the fact that, at some point, treatment no longer works. Merely acknowledging that my patient was dying felt transgressive. But when an octogenarian is dying, there is often an unspoken—and sometimes spoken—sentiment that they have led a full life, that death is both natural and expected, somehow less devastating and easier to address.

But what is a full life? How does anyone know that a young person hasn’t lived fully, or that an older person has? Helping people find that satisfaction requires doctors to ask what that means to their patients. Their answers reflect who they are, what matters to them, and what they will make of their remaining time. These are important conversations to have with every patient: Plenty of people of all ages are still offered aggressive treatment as a matter of course, or end up facing death under circumstances they might not have desired. As the number of younger people with cancer continues to rise, physicians who embrace their duty to have truthful, compassionate conversations with all patients can help each person make choices that reflect their singular humanity.

I, too, struggled to see past my patient’s age. It was simpler to talk about mixtapes we’d made in high school than the reality of her illness. But as she became sicker, I understood that avoiding that reality was protecting only me, and that my silence could deprive her of moments for grace with her family. Doctoring well required learning the difference between my distress and my patient’s, how focusing on my emotions limited my ability to understand hers.

Knowing how to start a conversation about death with someone in their 20s or 30s can be difficult. Voicing My Choices, an advance-care-planning guide developed for young patients, offers gentle questions that may be useful in early discussions. In addition to posing routine questions about treatment choices and identifying a surrogate decision maker, the document prompts a health-care provider to ask how a person prefers to be comforted, how they would like to be supported when feeling lonely, how they may wish to be remembered, what they want to be forgiven for or forgive others for. These questions illuminate who a patient is and what they value—information that can shape their choices regardless of their age or diagnosis. Understanding the person who is making decisions helps families and physicians find greater peace in accepting that person’s choices, whether they opt for the most aggressive medical treatments until they die or interventions that minimize their suffering.

When her oncologist and I met with my patient next, she demanded to know what the point of more treatment was. Whatever choice she made, her oncologist told her, she probably had weeks to live. Her face relaxed. Just like my patient from Boston, she seemed relieved to hear aloud what at some level she already knew. She didn’t want more treatment, and she and her family, craving privacy, weren’t emotionally prepared for her to enter home hospice, which would bring medical professionals through their doors regularly. She opted, for the moment, only to continue medication to ease her nausea and pain; she’d come back to hospital for any other needs.

Before she left, she shared with me what she was looking forward to. Lemonade, even if she vomited. Sleeping in her own bed. Searching for stars outside her window with her son, even if, amid the winter’s haze, they saw just a few.

Sunita Puri is a palliative-care physician and the author of the memoir That Good Night: Life and Medicine in the Eleventh Hour. She is a Rhodes Scholar. Her writing has appeared in The New Yorker, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, Slate, and Tricycle, among other publications. In 2019, The Guardian made a mini-documentary about her work with patients.
 
Another factor is improved detection and screening capabilities in countries with higher rates as well. More than a few of these malignancies would have gone undiagnosed in the past, but are caught now due to better technology.
 
Conversations like this one are happening every day: An unprecedented number of young Americans are dying of cancers typically found in older people, with diagnoses rising most rapidly among those in their 30s. Millennials born in 1990—at the peak of the generation—are twice as likely to develop colon cancer as Baby Boomers born in 1950.
Because Millenials are faggots that shove things up their butt. This has nothing to do with the clot shot, being a drunk or fat or anything else.
 
It isn't that we die, it's that we lived.

Agree there are many who've lived a full life by 35, and will leave something behind. Agree there are many who seemingly live forever and have done nothing of value in their lives, for themselves or anyone else.

Getting a diagnosis of a life-threatening condition concentrates the mind wonderfully. You look back and think about your life, the successes and failures, the things you'd still want to see and do. And you'll fight as hard as you can until you either beat the condition or you accept the reality that you're out of time. You never lose, you just run out of time.

Most doctors are really good body mechanics. Some doctors are good at treating people as a whole. Have both.

Once read that doctors tend to know when their condition is terminal. Seems only logical.

Another thought...you can do everything right, eat organic, get vaccinations, live a 'healthy lifestyle', and still get run over by a truck. God's will...when He wants you, that's it. For some reason He doesn't want me yet, despite the stuff that's happened. So I just keep on trucking, and so should you. But remember, tomorrow isn't guaranteed to any of us.
 
Risky sex is another,
It is straight up gross how blase millennials are about HPV and other cancer-causing STDs. Their view is "we have treatments and vaccines, therefore letting strangers raw dog you is okay". Gay men seem to have the same opinion toward HIV. It's real Weimar hours in the West at the moment.
 
It has to be related to lifestyle and the environment people are in. Genetics can play a role as well but to what extent is the question for that.

Here are figures for the countries with the highest and lowest cancer rates in the world:
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To be fair this isn't the whole story though as it has to be considered that countries such as Australia and Niger have drastically different life expectancy rates.
Most of those countries with low cancer rates also have worse access to healthcare. The countries with high cancer rates have better access to healthcare. Can't get data on something if you don't have the data in the first place.
 
It isn't that we die, it's that we lived.

Agree there are many who've lived a full life by 35, and will leave something behind. Agree there are many who seemingly live forever and have done nothing of value in their lives, for themselves or anyone else.

Getting a diagnosis of a life-threatening condition concentrates the mind wonderfully. You look back and think about your life, the successes and failures, the things you'd still want to see and do. And you'll fight as hard as you can until you either beat the condition or you accept the reality that you're out of time. You never lose, you just run out of time.
This right here, @JosephStalin

(TW: I have drunk some homebrew and mistaken Kiwifarms dot st for Livejournal dot com)

I was in my late 20s, and about to buy a house - finally about to be a real live grownup! Now, ever since I was a teenager I'd had this small, weird lump on my head. I thought it was just some kind of zit scar or something, but when I had visited my folks my sister took me aside and said, "Hey, that thing on your head... it looks weird. Go see your doctor," and she was so very earnest about it, I decided to listen. In fact, when I next looked in the mirror, that weird lump on my head that was just visual noise I'd long since learnt to tune out looked... different, somehow.

So I call my GP and set up an appointment. I'm nervous because I already suspect my GP thinks I'm a "worried well" neurotic, but if nothing else, I can honestly tell my sister I had my doctor laugh me out of his office and I can tell her she owes me a beer for my trouble. The day comes, and my doctor looks at it and hmms and humms for a bit, and then decides, "Ok, I'll remove it," and becomes almost a different person. He's downright cheerful at the prospect of performing a minor surgery in his office - maybe it's he's just tired of pushing antibiotics and excited to work with his hands, maybe he missed his calling as a surgeon. I dunno. Anyway, he's practically whistling as he numbs the area, excises the tissue, and dresses the wound. As I'm getting up to leave, he tells me, "I'm sure it's nothing, but we'll send it to the pathology lab anyway. Have a good day!"

Two weeks pass and the wound has healed nicely. I get a call from my GP's office staff, asking me to set up a time to discuss my biopsy results. Hmm, I thought he said it was nothing, but, ok, doc. I go it, and my doctor says the pathology report wasn't what he was expecting and it was actually some rare form of skin cancer. He's utterly subdued, and seems unwilling to even answer my questions, deferring to, "I'll set you up with a specialist; talk to reception on the way out." He then hands me a piece of paper with the name of a syndrome I've never heard of before.

I set up the appointment with the specialist and then spend the next hour sitting in the parking lot, on my pre-smartphone mobile device, frantically googling the words on the paper. Wikipedia tells me it's a rare genetic disorder that manifests itself in the form of odd skin (and other) cancers that, once they start appearing, have a better than 50% chance of killing you within 5 years - basically endless waves of cancer as your mutant DNA shits itself.

"Dead within 5 years" is a hell of a thing to tell someone in their 20s. In retrospect, though I am deeply disappointed with my GP, I understand why he didn't want to have that talk. "We had joy, we had fun, we had seasons in the sun..."

As it turns out, the specialist was far more comforting. "Yeah, you've got this weird skin cancer, but you have none of the other risk factors - this is probably a fluke. But there's some tests we can do..." and we went and did the tests - which ending up involving a colonoscopy right at the time I closed on the house, and me having to take breaks in the middle of signing a million stupid papers to close on the house so I could spray water like a damn firehose out my backside, because the laxatives they give you to prep are No Fucking Joke - but it turns out that the cancer really was a fluke and I'm alive and well and living in Paris Pennsylvania.

But all that is really a long way around to say that such an experience really does change you. It's around a decade and a half since all this went down, and now I'm the father to two small children. I worry about death, but no longer for my own sake. I know now, better than I did then, I have been fortunate in this life, and got to see and do many things that most people don't, and I don't fear whatever judgement may await me. I instead fear for my children growing up without their father in a world that seems so utterly without any sort of... center? Unifying ideal? Shared sense of moral purpose? Or maybe as the ancient Greeks might have put it, "Courage is agreement about what is terrible."

Anyway, thank you for coming for my TardX talk. Here's mood music:

 
Well that’s an interesting point isn’t it? Why is that?
It's a mystery. Luckily, and thanks to the science (which is settled), we definitely know, for sure, what couldn't possibly be a factor. Wouldn't worry about it anyway, because, in an incredible stroke of luck, there'll soon be mRNA cancer vaccines on the market - trials are underway now - just in time to meet this sudden surge in demand. How fortunate!
 
Looks like people die less of cancer in places where less money is spent to diagnose cancer. I doubt a lot of Sudanese get their routine colonoscopies.

Therefore, we can end the scourge of cancer deaths by stopping all treatments and diagnostics for cancers except for people who are warlord-level rich. Young people will still die, but of "IDK" and "blood came out of her mouth and she gurgled" and "she just died in her sleep."
I sense sarcasm. But the only part of this that sounds wrong to me is the "warlord rich" part. Get diagnostics run if you're having a problem. Gut pain, poop problems, weird bumps, unexplained weight loss- fine. Get treatment if the risk: benefit makes sense to you. But to hell with this "tsk tsk, you had a birthday, time for your yearly assrape!" model of con artistry. Enough with the obedient sheeple baaing through the gates for herd maintenance day because daddy cdc said it's time.

I know so many otherwise intelligent independent thinking people who have absolutely no sense of autonomy when it comes to these stupid fucking "screenings." They will line up and sign on the line and take on medical debt to comply. It's moronic.
It is straight up gross how blase millennials are about HPV and other cancer-causing STDs. Their view is "we have treatments and vaccines, therefore letting strangers raw dog you is okay". Gay men seem to have the same opinion toward HIV. It's real Weimar hours in the West at the moment.
This has been my working hypothesis for the colon cancer uptick all along. How long did it take before we put together that common vaginal warts were the culprit behind deadly cervical cancers? Well there's a good possibility some other seemingly harmless- maybe asymptomatic or nearly asymptomatic- STD will turn out to be responsible for the rise in butt-adjacent cancers, working in concert with the Al Goldsteins of the world who made sodomy ubiquitous among the millennials.

Boomers were not tame, and they certainly have serial monogamy down to an artform. But they did not compulsively whore it up with every available orifice, on apps, emulating that horse faced HBO woman, the way millennials have.
 
Knowing how to start a conversation about death with someone in their 20s or 30s can be difficult. Voicing My Choices, an advance-care-planning guide developed for young patients, offers gentle questions that may be useful in early discussions. In addition to posing routine questions about treatment choices and identifying a surrogate decision maker, the document prompts a health-care provider to ask how a person prefers to be comforted, how they would like to be supported when feeling lonely, how they may wish to be remembered, what they want to be forgiven for or forgive others for. These questions illuminate who a patient is and what they value—information that can shape their choices regardless of their age or diagnosis. Understanding the person who is making decisions helps families and physicians find greater peace in accepting that person’s choices
This is horrific. I hope everyone involved in this "guide" gets cancer and dies in pain and shit.
 
Well there's a good possibility some other seemingly harmless- maybe asymptomatic or nearly asymptomatic- STD will turn out to be responsible for the rise in butt-adjacent cancers,
Probably the same virus tbh. The rise in anal sex frequency is probably a contributing factor. I think there’s a study ongoing right now with looking at lesions in the anal region of job that hasn’t cleared and outcomes. Or of course there could also be other viruses that do the same.
‘Your bum is a one way system’ is a simple message but one that nobody seems willing to promote
 
Because Millenials are faggots that shove things up their butt. This has nothing to do with the clot shot, being a drunk or fat or anything else.
That's partially true, but let's not pretend zoomers aren't gay as fuck as well. The same shit that's happening to millenials is/will happen to zoomers soon as well. They emulate a lot of these sexually risque behaviors that most millenials do.
 
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To be fair this isn't the whole story though as it has to be considered that countries such as Australia and Niger have drastically different life expectancy rates.
The bigger impact is probably from detection; those countries with lower cancer rates probably have tons of people die from it in the middle of nowhere and they chalk it up to witchcraft or whatever, not to mention the cancer cases that go into remission by themselves.

Moreover, those two sets of countries have drastically different genetic populations. There could well be a genetic difference between the white and black populations with no white admixture (unlike US or European blacks), especially since whites have 30X chance to get melanoma compared to blacks.

If it were all lifestyle driven, I'd expect to see Mexico on that list, who have some of the worst diets and highest obesity rates on the planet thanks to American companies seeing an uneducated secondary market and getting their population addicted to sugar back in the low regulation environment of the 1980s.

Singapore's low rates are due to their Asian-ness more than anything, I suspect. It's long been known that chinamen and nips could smoke 4 packs a day and most of them will come out just fine. They seem to have a lower predisposition to cancer.
 
I wonder if it has anything to do with how many people are on or have been on prescription medication or use over the counters often. It's something not a lot of people ever mention. Birth control, anxiety meds, depression meds, ADHD meds. Aside from if you have horrible periods that need to be managed a lot of people are prescribed these for stupid dumb reasons and they could manage whatever is bothering them through making lifestyle changes. Unnecessary medicalization, long term, likely contributes a lot. I wonder if any studies look into that?
 
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