Asian Drama Thread - chink shows on netflix

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I was kind of surprised that there didn't seem to be a thread about this yet, since I feel like women love these shows. Or maybe it's just the ones in my circle. My mom loves them and they're pretty much all she watches (same for both her sisters), so I sometimes half-watch them with her while I'm working.

My opinion that Asian dramas have exploded in popularity is evidenced by how many of them are sweeping streaming services now, K-dramas in particular, probably helped by the fact that Korean "pop culture" in general is the West's new favorite thing (no matter how many disgusting, egregious scandals come out of Korea's entertainment industries). As someone who writes, I have learned to laugh at K-dramas, because every single one of them follows a checklist of tropes, and you'll be damned if they don't check all the boxes:

  1. The female lead (FL), for some retarded reason, ends up in front of a speeding car. The male lead (ML) saves her from certain death by grabbing her and pulling her out of the way for a cute forced hug. Bonus points if the vehicle threatening the FL's life is a motorcycle instead.
  2. In a similar vein, the FL's parents will both have died in a car accident (because you can't find love unless you're an orphan, I guess). Bonus points if the ML's parents have also died in the same way. Extra bonus points if one of the leads talks out loud to their deceased parents at some point, usually to ask for advice as their relationship progresses.
  3. The FL is too short to reach something on a shelf, so--naturally--the ML must get up directly behind her to retrieve it. As a side note, the lead actresses in these shows are always short, even though the men are all over 6 feet tall? Come on, Korea, I know you have some tall women on hand. There's no need for the main couple to look like a man babysitting a little girl when they stand next to each other.
  4. At some point between episodes 10 and 12 (out of 16), some random woman from the ML's life, usually an ex, will spontaneously materialize, and even though the ML makes it obvious that there's no chance of a relationship between him and her, she herself (or her mere presence) somehow convinces the FL to break off the relationship for the sake of angst.
  5. Often there's also a scene where the FL sinks into an infinite body of water. It doesn't matter if she just tripped and fell into a river or something--they will shoot it in a way where it looks like she dropped into the middle of the Pacific Ocean. The FL is always unable to swim. She sinks like 10 meters below the surface before the ML jumps in to pull her out.
  6. Often, one of them ends up on the brink of death at some point (because what more natural plot device is there to create tension?) Bonus points if some amnesia bullshit is involved. If it's the ML, it's usually a terminal illness; if it's the FL, it's usually a bad injury/accident. (If you haven't noticed, these women are very accident-prone.)
The most common pairing is a dopey, happy-go-lucky FL and a tsundere ML--for Japanese dramas, from what I've noticed, it tends to be the reverse. The drama I've seen most recently is Mr. Plankton, which made my mom cry at the end ... even though it was ass. The premise is that this man kidnaps his ex from her wedding and drags her around the country with him, because he wants to find his biological father in the 3 months he has left to live. (Remember what I said about terminal illness?) His ex was getting married to a man obviously quite a bit older than her, but they were genuinely deeply in love with each other and she was incredibly upset for about 1.5 episodes about being taken away from her fiance. The fact that this woman has been abducted is then excused when she falls in love with him and things are great again.

An added fun thing about this drama is that it contains more overt birth-more-kids-for-Korea advertising than I've ever seen before. There are joyful little kids running around in pretty much every episode. The FL's fiance tells her that he wants to break the world record for having the most kids ever (??). The FL herself is devastated when she learns that she'll never be able to have kids because "since she didn't have a mother, she wanted to become a mother herself" (great way to pass on generational trauma, btw). And the ML's dad, who froze his sperm in order to have him, did so before undergoing chemotherapy for testicular cancer, because he "cared more about having kids than beating the cancer" and "was willing to risk his existence" (his words) "to have a family". I'm sure Korean watchers will love the message!

Kill me now.

Anyway, do any kiwisisters unironically watch dramas and enjoy them. Please tell me which ones. I promise I won't be mad (but I might judge a little).
 
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There are thousands of these and zoomies read them like millennials read manga.
 
I like Kdramas because they are the antithesis to the American TV that is dominating the modern culture. Where American TV is full of sex and violence, Kdramas are demure, slow burn, and just kind of... Soft and romantic.

An American show these days will have random, unimportant sex scenes every 5 minutes or so. When I watch a Kdrama, I am waiting for 10 episodes for the characters to hold hands and I see them kiss softly in the last episode. It's good shit. I also dislike how fast-paced American TV shows and movies are, and how repetative. I saw an interview with some film makers where they said they basically make movies and shows for people who are watching tiktok alongside the show. You can really tell this is the case. In comparison, kdramas are not tailored to low attention span spergs... Yet.

Anyway, I haven't seen too many, but here's a few I liked, and why.
  • Goblin, because it is romantic but also a comedy. I like the lead actor, he is handsome.
  • Weightlifting fairy Kim Bok-Joo, because it is cute, and I lift, so...
  • Bad and crazy because it is an action comedy. Good story, heandsome actor.
  • Extraordinary attorney Woo, because it is wholesome and I like the lead actress. Haven't finished it, though.
 
So it's telenovela with squinty eyes?
Yes and no.
To me the most defining trait of a telenovela is that it's often used as a "tool" to teach good values to the audience. The protagonists are exemplary, role models, while the antagonists are the opposite. The story teaches you a lesson. Without this trait it's not a telenovela, just a drama or a soap opera.

I've watched a few K-dramas and enjoyed them a lot: Sky Castle, Green Mothers Club (actually didn't like this one, the protagonist is awful), Under The Queen's Umbrella and The Glory. They can be really over-the-top with the drama sometimes but I like that.
 
I watched Kazoku Game years ago, it was great. Can definitely recommend it. I find myself humming the theme from time to time.

 
I think I'll keep to myself and just watch novelas. At least I understand those without needing to read subtitles
 
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There are thousands of these and zoomies read them like millennials read manga.

These are welcome too, especially because quite a few dramas are actually live-action adaptations of manga. J-dramas in particular--I don't think I've ever seen one that was an original (i.e. no written source material).

I like Kdramas because they are the antithesis to the American TV that is dominating the modern culture. Where American TV is full of sex and violence, Kdramas are demure, slow burn, and just kind of... Soft and romantic.

An American show these days will have random, unimportant sex scenes every 5 minutes or so. When I watch a Kdrama, I am waiting for 10 episodes for the characters to hold hands and I see them kiss softly in the last episode. It's good shit. I also dislike how fast-paced American TV shows and movies are, and how repetative. I saw an interview with some film makers where they said they basically make movies and shows for people who are watching tiktok alongside the show. You can really tell this is the case. In comparison, kdramas are not tailored to low attention span spergs... Yet.

I think this is the reason why most women who have made the switch to K-dramas have done so. My mom is the same (even though she also watches cringy raunchy shit like 365 Days).

American TV is truly egregious, so it does of course make Asian dramas look better by comparison, but I always felt like the portrayal of romance in K-dramas sucked in other ways. Like, yes, it's slower paced, and the show doesn't start with the two leads fucking, but the slow pace is often just due to some bullshit. Like, there will be 0 obstacles between them at all, so the characters invent their own obstacles for plot reasons. Where American "romances" have nonstop porn, K-dramas have these weird moments of what I can only call forced intimacy: oh, look, we fell into each other's arms while barely knowing each other, let's make awkward silent eye contact for 10 uninterrupted seconds, because that makes sense. And the rule is that people will naturally fall in love after enough instances of forced/accidental intimacy, which retcons any previous overstepping of boundaries and makes it all okay. (Not that FLs ever seem to have/establish boundaries anyway.) American shows might have this same problem, but I honestly haven't seen any in years and I refuse to go back.

Another problem that romances in general have is that the character writing is just ... not great. The leads just get swept along in the direction the author wants them to go, regardless of whether their actions are logically consistent at all. Maybe I would be able to see past this if I was a more "romantic" person, but I can't name many shows where it was really clear why these two people loved each other. Mr. Plankton was a uniquely bad example, because it made a mistake that I think is more common in American TV than K-dramas--a male lead whose toxicity should, realistically, make a relationship impossible. Watchers tend to eat up a toxic ML because they think negative character traits/a traumatic backstory = deep and nuanced character writing.

Asian dramas are at their best, imo, when they don't try too hard to incorporate romance. The ones I remember liking are Fiery Priest (K-drama that recently got a second season!) and The Double (long historical-fiction C-drama). China tends to do historical stuff a bit better than Korea, although both put America to shame.

I will say does peeve me a bit how there aren't any historical dramas that incorporate old-fashioned makeup designs! Yes, yes, it's a minor thing that only autists care about. But honestly--if the people are going to be wearing hanbok/hanfu/kimonos, then why would the makeup be the only thing that's completely modern? Do 5 seconds of extra research and get it right, darn it.
 

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it's definitely dramatic but don't know if it counts as a drama but i love the "Three Kingdoms (2010)" tv series. apparently it as the most expensive Chinese tv show ever made at the time, i can see why, lots of actors, extras and sets and battles.
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Pretty good series.
Acting is overall good, especially the actors of Cao Cao and Liu Bei carry it hard.
Action is the usual Wuxia shit, with the Shu-Han Generals mowing through hundreds of troops and still losing, which clashes a bit with the tone of it being more down-to earth than other series.

I generally would like more historical and historical fiction shit from China and Asia in General, especially with the western shit being insufferable.
 
  • Goblin, because it is romantic but also a comedy. I like the lead actor, he is handsome.
  • Weightlifting fairy Kim Bok-Joo, because it is cute, and I lift, so...
  • Bad and crazy because it is an action comedy. Good story, heandsome actor.
  • Extraordinary attorney Woo
You are 100% correct. Goblin is one of my favorite dramas. Lead guy is the recruiter in squid games

I’ll add My Mister (my ahjussi) is a lovely may/december romance-ish drama

Kdramas are just…corny, yes, but there’s the conservative element in Korean entertainment that I value. Also, no fats or westerners or ugly people
 
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