As Jewish enclaves spring up around NYC, so does intolerance

MONSEY, N.Y. (AP) — For years, ultra-Orthodox Jewish families priced out of increasingly expensive Brooklyn neighborhoods have been turning to the suburbs, where they have taken advantage of open space and cheaper housing to establish modern-day versions of the European shtetls where their ancestors lived for centuries before the Holocaust.

The expansion of Hasidic communities in New York’s Hudson Valley, the Catskills and northern New Jersey been accompanied by flare-ups of rhetoric aimed at new development that some say is cloaked anti-Semitism.

Now, a pair of violent attacks on such communities, just weeks apart, worry many that intolerance is boiling over.

On Dec. 10, a man and woman killed a police officer and then stormed into a kosher grocery in Jersey City, fatally shooting three people inside before dying in an hourslong gunfight with police. The slayings happened in a neighborhood where Hasidic families had recently been relocating.

And on Saturday, a man rushed into a rabbi’s home in Monsey, New York, during a Hanukkah celebration, hacking at people with a machete. Five people were wounded, including one who remains hospitalized. Federal prosecutors said the man charged in the attack, Grafton Thomas, had written journals containing anti-Semitic comments and a swastika and had researched Hitler’s hatred of Jews online.

At a meeting Monday hosted by U.S. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand in Rockland County, where Monsey is, some Jewish leaders blamed inflammatory rhetoric on social media and from local elected officials as contributing to an atmosphere ripe for anti-Semitic violence.

Days after the killings in Jersey City, a local school board member there, Joan Terrell-Paige, assailed Jews as “brutes” on Facebook, saying she believed the killers were trying to send a message with the slaughter. “Are we brave enough to explore the answer to their message?” she asked.

A widely condemned political ad last summer created by a local Republican group claimed that an Orthodox Jewish county legislator was “plotting a takeover” that threatens “our way of life.”

Whether any of that heated rhetoric was a factor in the recent violence is unclear, but the legislator targeted in the video ad said that kind of hostile language has repercussions.

“In the last few years in Rockland County I have seen a rise in hate rhetoric, and I was able to foresee it would end in violence,” said county legislator Aron Wieder. “You have seen on social media where the Orthodox community has been called a cancer, leeches, people who don’t pay taxes. It has become normal and accepted to say derogatory and hateful things about Jewish people.”

Swastikas have been scrawled around the county, and frightened parents are asking law enforcement for more visible security at synagogues and schools, Wieder said.

Bigoted messages have gone unchecked for years, said Rabbi Yisroel Kahan, administrative director of the Oizrim Jewish Council. He pointed to hateful comments on social media and false online rumors that have spilled over into everyday life.

“It has been tolerated for far too long,” he said.

Hasidic families began migrating from New York City to suburban communities in the 1970s, hoping to create the sort of cohesive community some recalled from Europe.

Rockland County, 15 miles (24 kilometers) northwest of Manhattan, now has the largest Jewish population per capita of any U.S. county, with 31%, or 90,000 residents, being Jewish. The ultra-Orthodox population is highly visible in small towns like Monsey, where bearded Hasidic men in black overcoats and fedoras converse in Yiddish along the sidewalks and Orthodox women wear modest black skirts and head scarves as they go about their daily errands.

In small towns everywhere, resentment against newcomers and “outsiders” isn’t uncommon. Proposals for multi-family housing complexes in sleepy communities of single-family homes often trigger fervent opposition complete with lawn signs and rowdy town board meeting crowds.

Yet the tone of the debates over growth in some areas where Hasidic families have been moving has been more intense.

In East Ramapo, there were legal fights after Hasidic voters, who generally do not send their children to public schools, elected a majority of members of the local school board.

Some towns have enacted zoning changes forbidding new houses of worship.

In several communities in New Jersey, including Tom’s River and Jersey City, officials pushed back against an influx of Jewish families by enacted so-called “no knock” ordinances, barring real estate agents representing the Hasidic community from going door to door, offering to buy homes.

In the small town of Chester, 60 miles north of New York City in Orange County, New York Attorney General Letitia James recently announced action to fight housing rules that she said were being used to improperly prevent an influx of Hasidic Jews. Local officials have denied anti-Semitism was behind opposition to plans to build over 400 homes in the town of 12,000 residents.

Rockland County Executive Ed Day said the arguments over housing density involve legitimate policy issues and are the biggest challenge when it comes to accommodating the growing Orthodox Jewish community.

The Orthodox community has special needs, he said, like housing for large families and residences within walking distance to a synagogue. That creates “demands that are counter to many of the communities they’re residing in,” Day said.

Questionable zoning decisions, he said, lead to resentment.

“Now the words start. Now the worst words continue. And this is where you have the problem,” Day said.

Authorities haven’t offered an explanation yet for what they think motivated the Jersey City attackers or Thomas to select their targets.

Thomas’ lawyer and family have said he has struggled for years with mental illness and hadn’t previously shown any animosity to Jews. He had grown up in New York City but was living with his mother in a small town about a 30 minute drive from Monsey.

Rabbi David Niederman, executive director of the Brooklyn-based United Jewish Organizations of Williamsburg, said he is offended by references to tensions over housing and population growth in discussions about the Monsey and the Jersey City attacks.

“If you have tensions, what you do is you sit down at a table; that’s how you deal with tensions,” Niederman said. “You don’t go out and murder people. You don’t go out with a butcher knife and almost kill a whole congregation.”

Those violent attacks, he said, were motivated by “pure hatred.”
 
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Time to make "it's okay to be white" enclaves. Everyone who thinks it's okay to be white is welcome.

I hear there's a nice block next to 14/88 street.
 
Gee who would've thunk tolerance for Jewish people would lower even further once they go full schizo and arm themselves against outsiders as if it wasn't already bad enough 2009. Link to the full doc below, I highly recommend it, it's a good look into antisemitism and what causes the tension.









 
I do not understand.

Why would you send people to the school board if you don't intend to send your kids there? The only practical reason I can think of is to destroy the budget so your property taxes go down.

Is that even how it'd work?

Control the school board, control the curriculum. I wonder why a subversive, parasitic group like the Jews would want to do a thing like that?

:thinking:
 
Jews starting a race war with niggers just for fun and communist trying to take over your republic...

im not sure but maybe somebody from the past did nothing wrong?
 
Gee who would've thunk tolerance for Jewish people would lower even further once they go full schizo and arm themselves against outsiders as if it wasn't already bad enough 2009. Link to the full doc below, I highly recommend it, it's a good look into antisemitism and what causes the tension.

Defamation is a great documentary and an enduring legacy that it's not all jews (but a lot more jews -than most people openly admit).
 
I think the ones to blame are the shit lib jews rather than the orthodox jews.
Mainly because the lib shits jews are the ones who try to manipulate the wider public into seeing white and rich people being the source of all the world's problems without thinking about how they obviously fit into the category themselves (not that they'll admit being white when it's not convenient), with the orthodox jews getting attacked in response.
Also notice how the article portray the orthodox jews as being the real source of the problem and remember who is the presidential candidate they are most likely to vote for...
 
They have their own police force,

How does that work? Just ordinary people who buy a uniform and pretend to be police with enough legal wiggle room that they can say they're pretending to actually be police? Or they have some sort of legal backing for this?
 
All funny and ironic or not so ironic internet antisemitism aside, Hasidim have a reputation for being obnoxious assholes above and beyond the mere stereotypes about jewish people in the US that everyone likes to chuckle about.
 
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Control the school board, control the curriculum. I wonder why a subversive, parasitic group like the Jews would want to do a thing like that?

:thinking:

At the risk of powerleveling a bit, its the property taxes. The Hasidic scum couldn't care less about the goy schools. They just don't want to pay taxes for schools they don't use. Unfortunately, school districts in NY are primarily funded by local property taxes, and the Hasidim aren't exactly known to be the neighborly, civic minded people (outside of Jew Queda community of course); so you that's why this happens.

And they wonder why everyone, (including secular Jews) would probably throw a party if they all were gassed made to shower tomorrow.
 
Shouldn't they move out anyway? The bail law is going to release a lot of criminals and the Hasidim will be one of the first people to be targeted.

They should move to a rural area so no one will disturb them and they can make their own houses there. However, Jews (in general) have low physical strength and low visual capabilities, so they need to be in cities. Quite sad.
 
When was the idea that intolerance is bad under any circumstances was born?

Many people are intolerant of behaviors that would cause them harm and that just feels logical.
 
I've never heard anyone from NY say anything nice about hasidic Jews, whether that person was conservative or liberal. Nobody likes them because they are walking caricatures... and they seem to embrace it.

I worked closely with a retired NYPD detective for years and he hated them. He was black and said that every time a black person walked into their territory they would harass them or call the cops, and that NYPD brass would not allow anything to stick against the hasidic jews at all.
 
Is a "shtetl" basically a closed-off exclusive zone where they aren't friendly to outsiders? Maybe that's why people are hostile toward the idea. No one likes a new group colonizing their neighborhood and changing it. The article opens with the sob bit about how these poor orthodox Jews were getting priced out of their old neighborhoods but I'd bet dollars to donuts they're doing the same thing to the previous occupants of their new area.

One thing I like about the farms is that I don't have to endlessly qualify that of course I'm not justifying shootings and violence, but the article itself brought up these precious social components so it's fair game to ask about them.
 
I do not understand.

Why would you send people to the school board if you don't intend to send your kids there? The only practical reason I can think of is to destroy the budget so your property taxes go down.

Is that even how it'd work?
Simple.

They breed like rabbits to get a ton of votes, first. They use said votes to stuff the board with their people. It's worth noting that they're well-known for voter intimidation against the locals while simultaneously bussing in a hilariously suspicious amount of people from "Within the district".

Once they've gotten enough of their people on the board, they take action, usually voting everyone else off the board so that they have a unanimous majority and can pass whatever they want, no matter how absurd.

They vote to defund the public (IE: Non-Orthodox-Jewish) schools as much as possible to cut their taxes.

At the same time, they pass regulations to give their private, all Jewish-Orthodox schools whatever sorts of government funding, tax credits, and whatever other sorts of kickbacks they can think up.

And it's all 100% legal, with nothing anyone can do to stop it.

Of course, once they defund everyone else's schools, and set theirs up with all the money, they almost always do hilariously shady shit like give expensive contracts to their relatives companies, divert funds to "Projects" that don't exist, raise their salaries as board members to ridiculous levels, and otherwise cook the books to skim/embezzle funding they approve.

It's massively corrupt, but even questioning it gets people dogpiled as racist anti-semites, so nothing can be done. And like a certain popular religion *COUGH*scientologists*COUGH*, they have a literal army of lawyers on standby to sue and legally harass anyone who crosses them.

It's fucked and no one is going to help the situation. And sooner or later, that always leads to violence.
 
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