Are the new Macs actually that much better?

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I upgraded my 2019 PC build to a Macbook Pro (M3 Pro) and ended up replacing my entire build with it. Minus graphics, it's more powerful than my PC while also barely making noise. I can literally count with my fingers the amount of times I've heard the fan kick in since last year. I use my Macbook like a desktop docked 90% of the time and I'm impressed that never once have I seen it throttle compared to the previous Intel Macbooks.

The biggest con with Apple Silicon is the lack of games, but I guarantee that's going to change in the near future. I've been able to play PC titles like Elden Ring on high @ 60 fps using Apple's new GPTK2 (basically WINE/Proton for Mac). It also appears that Valve is working on porting Proton to ARM which sounds very promising.
 
ToroidalBoat dijo:
Sucks that when they change processors, it can leave older software incompatible.

Meanwhile in the realm of Windows, I think latest Windows can still run XP stuff.
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Cost of doing business. For what it’s worth though, they always put a fuckton of effort into making that transition as seamless as possible. Windows is still floundering years after RT came out when it comes to ARM, meanwhile Apple’s Rosetta 2 made things so seamless for the user that if you didn’t know, you wouldn’t know it wasn’t running natively. They had similar transitions for the other processor families.
 
Merton J. Dingle dijo:
Why are they better beyond the better battery life?
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Mac OS is basically a Linux distro without the jank you get with Linux, and for open source software development it is very easy to get set up properly, while you have to jump a bunch of hurdles to get Windows in order.
Pretty much the only technical role I can think of where Windows is objectively superior is Azure administration/development. That's where Powershell becomes incredibly useful.
 
Apple has the advantage of having an iron grip on the entire environment, from hardware to software. You'll never be able to replicate that User Experience (tm) with a Linux, *BSD or a Windows PC, as the software userland there is a hodgepoge of different UI approaches, softwares that make up the critical parts of the system and hardware of wildly varying degrees of quality and performance. I detest Apple for various reasons and would never want a modern Apple machine (although I love my old 68040 Performa) but that just has to be admitted and even I do as a Linux user. Apple gets there by being ruthless about breaking compatibility with legacy stuff and completely starting over if necessary.

That said, you can have a great user experience with Linux if you are willing to tinker that'll surpass everything else in that degree of being tailored to your needs and not needing to have updates forced on you that change your entire experience because some overpaid Designer deemed that suddenly necessary. It'll cost time and work though. The distros out there and their default user experience are rather underwhelming.
 
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The new Macs are pretty decent, and Apple doesn't strike me as being pajeet infested.

I feel like if I was given a push I could make the switch fairly easily and be quite happy. I'm fine with Linux Mint tho, and there are perks to my Thinkpad X1 that I don't want to give up.
 
Unicorn Fairie dijo:
Mac fan curves tend to be programmed so that they're silent 95% of the time. But if you're doing something besides YouTube or web browsing, they quickly go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR and deafen your ears. Not for me. And the new ARM series of Macs don't seem to fix this.
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Some of the new ARM Macs have no fan at all.

The intel ones sucked so hard the m1 looked good, but it really IS a decent laptop processor because good performance and low power usage is nice.

But outside of that they’re just ok.
 
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