Are milfs astroturfed?

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Porn is dictated by the degens who spend the most time watching it and it's seeping into the wider internet. Producers will make what gets them eyeballs. I had normalfag buddy ask me out of the blue why all porn is incest these days, said made it creepy and unwatchable. He's right, but the coomers spending 14 hours a day on pornhub eat it up.

I'm seeing people say shit like mommy dommy in the most random placed and it's disturbing.

It doesn't take a brain surgeon to explain. The "incest" content is almost all "step" themed. Most families are blended families now, with stepmoms, stepdads, stepsisters, etc. Not So Little Johnny is getting turned on his by new "sister" and it's manifesting in this way. Back in the Victorian Era when kids got beat/whipped a lot they had a lot of proto-BDSM erotica. Most people that watch porn couldn't care less about the plot, will skip over it, so it costs them nothing to make it themed.

 

[DamnWolves!]

Age isn’t that relevant unless it’s relevant. If you keep in shape, you can be relatively attractive to like 60 or something.

And yet, 80 year olds find each other in the nursing home all the time.

So lemme ask you, son... would you date an 80 year old? How about a 60 year old woman?

 

[Seafarer]

Maybe as another way of keeping birthrates lower, who knows,

Also to create more Autists? Then again there seems to be a billion other things contributing to that.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

And yet, 80 year olds find each other in the nursing home all the time.

So lemme ask you, son... would you date an 80 year old? How about a 60 year old woman?

I think my wife would be mad.

Also I don’t think attractive 80 year olds exist, and attractive 60 year olds are rare

 

[AgendaPoster]

I'd say self-own astroturf cause males are fucking horny and even a 45 will do if in pristine enough shape.
I've dated mothers (2) around 30, and they were generally OK, sadly their tits were in pretty bad shape and they came with insane emotional baggage so things did not last. Probably will date more too as I also grow older. Yuck.

 

[Screamer_2]

I get the feeling a lot of people that would love to brag about being MILFs forget the, "I'd like to Fuck" part of the term. They have to actually be attractive and have kept their shit together.

Then in general, in this current era a lot of people get married have kids and divorce late 30s /early 40s and then date. Probably use the MILF idea as a confidence booster that they aren't over the hill and used up. Which it doesn't matter all that much as there's guys in the same situation of being newly single. From my observations, women particularly go through a slut phase at this stage.

If they've kept shit together, they can get some younger men but it won't last long because they've come from relationships and those guys aren't going to settle down with them.

Then there's the ones who haven't kept shit together. Who will get some younger dude that is just desperate with no standards, but I don't think anyone is deluded in applying the MILF term to this.

 

[jertzog]

When you said Aunt May, I thought I'd have to start a cringy lecture about the proper age range for the genre and that grannies are their own thing. But you're talking about Marisa Tomei.
It's an unironic diversity thing. You see an older looking woman who still has a nice body and your cock gets hard from seeing something appealing and a little different, tracing back to early puberty when you'd be turned on by female authority figures like a teacher or neighbor lady who were much more developed than girls your age.
Before Stifler's Mom there was Mrs Robinson and way, way before that there was Ben Franklin with his Night-time Felines. Not every widow in history with a bit of money became a sexless nun and would've had affairs with men before remarrying or going broke and becoming a sexless nun.
Porn embraced it quickly because it was a way to broaden their actress stables and pay them all less. Plus I guess a few retired hags who'd married producers got to get back into the business too after being told before they were too old.
Actual dating, well. You're probably better off with prostitutes who claim to be 25-30, but lowball their age pretty steep. 35-50 year olds generally don't like dating men old enough to be their son.

 

[Night Crawler]

It doesn't take a brain surgeon to explain. The "incest" content is almost all "step" themed. Most families are blended families now, with stepmoms, stepdads, stepsisters, etc. Not So Little Johnny is getting turned on his by new "sister" and it's manifesting in this way. Back in the Victorian Era when kids got beat/whipped a lot they had a lot of proto-BDSM erotica. Most people that watch porn couldn't care less about the plot, will skip over it, so it costs them nothing to make it themed.

No one gives a shit about the story in porn. Some people might but most don't. If I think a woman in a video is hot I will watch her no matter if she is pretending to fuck her stepson or the guy next door. It doesn't matter to me. It's all fake anyway.

It's all step this and step that. No one really cares if some stepbrother and stepsister are banging because they aren't biologically related. I have seen stories about that online. It's always funny seeing people act surprised when they find out their kid is banging the kid of their significant other. You have two teenagers living in the same house together and they are healthy. You are really surprised they are fucking? Really? Really?

But fucking your stepmom or stepdad is like Jerry Springer levels of shit.

 

[Omen_Sulk]

I've dated mothers (2) around 30, and they were generally OK, sadly their tits were in pretty bad shape and they came with insane emotional baggage so things did not last. Probably will date more too as I also grow older. Yuck.

Yeah I'm at the age where the only Women within my relative "price range" are single moms or divorcees with 1-3 kids in tow and a string of dysfunctional ex's of various types. Abusers, Drug Dealers, Lazy sacks of shit, etc.

Oh yeah that sounds like a great deal. Why don't I just turn this Grenade into a fleshlight.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

It doesn't take a brain surgeon to explain. The "incest" content is almost all "step" themed. Most families are blended families now, with stepmoms, stepdads, stepsisters, etc. Not So Little Johnny is getting turned on his by new "sister" and it's manifesting in this way. Back in the Victorian Era when kids got beat/whipped a lot they had a lot of proto-BDSM erotica. Most people that watch porn couldn't care less about the plot, will skip over it, so it costs them nothing to make it themed.

No one gives a shit about the story in porn. Some people might but most don't. If I think a woman in a video is hot I will watch her no matter if she is pretending to fuck her stepson or the guy next door. It doesn't matter to me. It's all fake anyway.

It's all step this and step that. No one really cares if some stepbrother and stepsister are banging because they aren't biologically related. I have seen stories about that online. It's always funny seeing people act surprised when they find out their kid is banging the kid of their significant other. You have two teenagers living in the same house together and they are healthy. You are really surprised they are fucking? Really? Really?

But fucking your stepmom or stepdad is like Jerry Springer levels of shit.

The whole "step" aspect of modern incest porn isn't due to blended families, or whatever. It's just an attempt to avoid various obscenity rules and laws in some regions. If you look up erotica on Amazon, for example, it's entirely "stepcest" because they don't allow "incest", so it all gets labeled as stepcest. Same reason glorified underage pron is labeled "barely legal" instead of "jailbait" or why rape-themed content is now called "Dubious Consent" because "Nonconsensual" started getting banned on many sites a few years ago after the credit card companies started cracking down on Patreon and Pornhub.

As to why "incest" porn is suddenly so popular, I'd honestly put most of the blame on Game of Thrones becoming super popular. That's when incest content really exploded out of being a very specific niche. Just like how bdsm stuff took off after that dumb "Fifty Shades" book/films.

Or more recently how every porn chick suddenly has to make vids fucking dog/horse/dragon themed dildos since OnlyFans exploded the amateur market.

Anyway, MILFs have been a thing since forever. They were even in the Bible (Joseph got falsely MeToo'd after refusing to fuck his boss' wife, classic Milf behavior). As far as porn MILFs go, that genre is just a way to let the pornstars continue their career after the industry abandons them on their 25th birthday. That's why they're all like 33 when they suddenly "return" to porn from their escort/stripping, and they pretend to have 18 year old sons whose friends they can fuck. Hollywood has a similar thing, called "start your own studio and make shitty indie films" which every 35 year old actress does, so she can continue to "star" in films long after she's relegated to playing witches by the real studios.

 

[SIMIΔN]

We live in a culture engineered to only celebrate non-fertile sex.

 

[Night Crawler]

I'd say self-own astroturf cause males are fucking horny and even a 45 will do if in pristine enough shape.
I've dated mothers (2) around 30, and they were generally OK, sadly their tits were in pretty bad shape and they came with insane emotional baggage so things did not last. Probably will date more too as I also grow older. Yuck.

Just go younger. As birth rates amongst white people in the Western world are collapsing and people aren't fucking there has to be some childless women out there somewhere. Just avoid the single moms. Single moms are just fucked up bitches looking for someone to support them and their kids. Like human garbage.

I get the feeling a lot of people that would love to brag about being MILFs forget the, "I'd like to Fuck" part of the term. They have to actually be attractive and have kept their shit together.

Then in general, in this current era a lot of people get married have kids and divorce late 30s /early 40s and then date. Probably use the MILF idea as a confidence booster that they aren't over the hill and used up. Which it doesn't matter all that much as there's guys in the same situation of being newly single. From my observations, women particularly go through a slut phase at this stage.

If they've kept shit together, they can get some younger men but it won't last long because they've come from relationships and those guys aren't going to settle down with them.

Then there's the ones who haven't kept shit together. Who will get some younger dude that is just desperate with no standards, but I don't think anyone is deluded in applying the MILF term to this.

No young guy is going to "settle down" with an older woman. They are cum dumpsters and that's about it. No one gets married anymore anyway. Marriage is a thing Boomers used to do. Like getting well paying job buying a house or owning a Harley. These older bitches must be fucking super delusional if they think some guy 10 years younger than them is going to marry them or even live with them. They are a sex toy and that's it. That's all they will ever be.

Yeah I'm at the age where the only Women within my relative "price range" are single moms or divorcees with 1-3 kids in tow and a string of dysfunctional ex's of various types. Abusers, Drug Dealers, Lazy sacks of shit, etc.

Oh yeah that sounds like a great deal. Why don't I just turn this Grenade into a fleshlight.

Like I said above. Just look for younger women. Birthrates are collapsing and people aren't fucking. There are childless women out there. You don't have to put up with single moms and human garbage.

The whole "step" aspect of modern incest porn isn't due to blended families, or whatever. It's just an attempt to avoid various obscenity rules and laws in some regions. If you look up erotica on Amazon, for example, it's entirely "stepcest" because they don't allow "incest", so it all gets labeled as stepcest. Same reason glorified underage pron is labeled "barely legal" instead of "jailbait" or why rape-themed content is now called "Dubious Consent" because "Nonconsensual" started getting banned on many sites a few years ago after the credit card companies started cracking down on Patreon and Pornhub.

As to why "incest" porn is suddenly so popular, I'd honestly put most of the blame on Game of Thrones becoming super popular. That's when incest content really exploded out of being a very specific niche. Just like how bdsm stuff took off after that dumb "Fifty Shades" book/films.

Or more recently how every porn chick suddenly has to make vids fucking dog/horse/dragon themed dildos since OnlyFans exploded the amateur market.

Anyway, MILFs have been a thing since forever. They were even in the Bible (Joseph got falsely MeToo'd after refusing to fuck his boss' wife, classic Milf behavior). As far as porn MILFs go, that genre is just a way to let the pornstars continue their career after the industry abandons them on their 25th birthday. That's why they're all like 33 when they suddenly "return" to porn from their escort/stripping, and they pretend to have 18 year old sons whose friends they can fuck. Hollywood has a similar thing, called "start your own studio and make shitty indie films" which every 35 year old actress does, so she can continue to "star" in films long after she's relegated to playing witches by the real studios.

Yeah that happens as well. But allusions to actual incest would just be weird and creepy. Very few people would want to watch that kind of porn. It's why it's relegated to like niche amateur porn. I have seen some of it and it's weird as shit. I know the women doing it are just supplying their customers with the product they want. But it's still weird. But I have seen some of them flat out refuse to do certain things. Like I saw one that posted a video talking about how she refuse to do SPH (Small Penis Humiliation) videos because she found it weird creepy and kind of depressing. She said take your penis size issues somewhere else. lol

I wouldn't blame anything. Incest has always been a popular taboo thing for some people. Even if they would never sleep with a relative in real life. They just seem to get off on it.

The older women thing has been around for a long time. Like I said it's a fantasy for a lot of young guys. Porn caters to male fantasies. It doesn't make people do anything. But the MILF porn does keep older women working in porn longer.

 

[Pee Cola]

They are a sex toy and that's it. That's all they will ever be.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Especially this day a lot of men had very abusive single mothers so having a motherly like significant other would be seen as desirable in some young men who had extremely broken homes.

 

[Claude Sigma]

I don't know if it's "astroturfed" or whatever, but I do know that my taste in women evolve as I get older.
Luckily enough, as I get older I like older women. (Which is a good thing, since my wife doesn't get any younger.) I honestly do not see much point in 18 years old anymore, a very charming woman in her 30's is what I prefer by far now.

I still understand the unique beauty of youth and fertility, that one can't be denied, but it doesn't beat rightful confidence, charm, and maturity. At least not in my eyes anymore.

So are there (((people))) trying to force attraction to older women just like they are trying to force interracial mixing, transgenderism, homosexuality, and incest porn in order to subvert their enemies and make them dysgenic and weak? Perhaps. I don't know.

 

[NickDigger]

Based on observations and experience mainly the former, yes, there are undeniably women who manage to maneuver around the dreaded Wall and still look great as they age, even taking on a certain seasoned "look" that's more boner inducing compared to younger women. But here's the catch: those "hot moms"?

More often than not, they're taken. And by taken, it's usually married, likely with kids they care for, and with a husband they can't see themselves without. They're in a stable relationship and household, which in turn puts less stress (one of the real "looks killers", outside of plain old genetics) on them paving a better path to aging gracefully. Moreover, the ones who are "available" are hardly ever in the "LIKE TO FUCK" category, either because they've wasted their prime years without taking care of themselves or have some stressful shit going on in their lives (divorce, relationships, finances, not adjusting to parenthood, maybe even substance abuse) that just wears them down into tired old unsightly hags. And even if they are remotely attractive, the ones I've met ultimately turn out to be batshit insane.

So yes, older women can age gracefully but that's often because they've lived a productive life, found a man they can settle down with, bore children, and all that jazz, and in turn they're rewarded by keeping their looks, or at least age into a look that's easy on the eyes. Life isn't porn where the hottest older woman is constantly craving young dick, and if she is, it's pussy that's way more trouble than it's worth.

And even if a woman jumps on a guy younger than her, it's almost always someone just a few years down the ladder who projects genuine maturity in spite of their age.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

They were called cougars back in the 90s and 2000s. What changed is how much more open people are to discussing flings and the number of people shagged thereby creating the [ ]ilf acronym. I always associate cougars with the last gen Mercy Cougar though since that was a rare car offered for only a few model years.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Something to add to the discusison about the incest thing, I've heard it said before, and suspect it's true, that most of the incest fetish comes from:
1) Genuine incest perverts that want to fuck their little sister
2) People that have no siblings at all

That may sound all-inclusive (you either want to fuck your little sister or not), but they're different kinds of people. Incest stuff could actually be a little more popular due to single child families if that means more only children that don't have an instinctive revulsion to the idea of "sister."

 

[The Gene Genie]

Definitely not. Ben Franklin was talking about his views on fucking MILFs (tldr he says it's based) almost 300 years ago. I think a better example of an astroturfed fetish is the incest stuff.

 

[crowabunga]

Some women take care of themselves instead of lathering layers of chemicals over themselves since they turned 13 and it shows

Any man with functional genitals can recognize an attractive woman, even if she's older than 30

Depends on the Milf I guess, single ones generally tend to take care of themselves and try to look late 20s at minimum cause theyre back in the dating game, married ones are usually fat and boring with added possible midlife crisis.

It's true: older women can look beautiful and even young (to a point), and conversely, young women can look like hags, depending on how well they take care of themselves.
I've lost track of the number of times I've checked some creature's ID and discovered to my horror that she's my junior by 4-5 years. Smoking, drinking, and eating (usually eating, from the look of them) in excess can do a lot of damage quick.

I think the milf meme is absurd because of this, since it implies that older women are inherently "preferable," at least in a purely carnal sense; well, older women who actually take care of themselves may be preferable compared to an average person in the west (50% U.S. national adult obesity by 2030 WOOOOO!), but if compared to a 20-something who has put in equivalent effort, I'd be hard pressed to prefer the comparatively elderly.