Apple Thread - The most overrated technology brand?

[Hostile Takeover]

An iPhone 5C for the MacBook line. I'd think even under medium use it would struggle under 8GB of memory.

MacOS can run fine on 8GB of RAM if you're doing only a couple things at a time. It's not like Windows where a bunch of Indians turned the core system UI and Apps in to a giant Chromium/React native jugaad.

 

[Nitro!]

MacOS can run fine on 8GB of RAM if you're doing only a couple things at a time. It's not like Windows where a bunch of Indians turned core the system UI and Apps in to a giant Chromium/React native jugaad.

A few browser tabs, Mail, iMessages, sure, I'd call that light use. The machine I'm on right now is using 15GB for work with a handful of servers running and I wouldn't consider that out of the ordinary for CS students or games to say nothing of Apple Intelligence (I don't know how well that performs, I'm never going beyond Sonoma). So it seems like there's a ceiling to hit for users to eventually splurge on a model from the non-Neo line.

 

[Hostile Takeover]

A few browser tabs, Mail, iMessages, sure, I'd call that light use. The machine I'm on right now is using 15GB for work with a handful of servers running and I wouldn't consider that out of the ordinary for CS students or games to say nothing of Apple Intelligence (I don't know how well that performs, I'm never going beyond Sonoma). So it seems like there's a ceiling to hit for users to eventually splurge on a model from the non-Neo line.

What's the memory pressure look like in activity monitor? That's a better indicator than just the raw number being used.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

MacOS can run fine on 8GB of RAM if you're doing only a couple things at a time. It's not like Windows where a bunch of Indians turned the core system UI and Apps in to a giant Chromium/React native jugaad.

People who aren’t familiar with the Mac platform don’t realize that RAM usage isn’t the same globally.

Windows is a ridiculously inefficient OS and isn’t optimized to the level MacOS is, and it shocks people to see how much smaller application sizes are and how much more efficient RAM usage is.
I have a MBP with 32GB RAM, and it does with ease what a co-worker on a 64GB Windows laptop had trouble with.

 

[Nitro!]

What's the memory pressure look like in activity monitor? That's a better indicator than just the raw number being used.

A third-ish in the graph. I'm guessing that's after it's compressed.

 

[Harry Dresden]

After watching a Markass Brownlee video about this new Macbook Neo, I'm convinced this will be a best seller. I remember watching that Apple YouTuber guy Luke Miani a couple years ago, and he talked about how big a deal a revamped version of the old 12-inch MacBook would be, and I think he's right. Most people don't need the power to edit 4K video; they just want to do basic internet browsing tasks and work tasks, which MacBooks are perfectly capable of doing. With Windows 11 and Microsoft becoming worse by the day, I can see budget MacBooks converting a lot of Windows users, just like the iPhone SE and iPod Touch converted a lot of cheap Android phone users.

 

[Diesel]

I think the neo is going to sell like hotcakes, It's great value for money.
I wish it had 16 gigs of RAM but I don't think that's because of Apples greed this time. I feel like they would have had a hard time hitting the price point with the way RAM is now.
I'll wait until the used market is flooded with them in a year or two and get a green one cheap.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

I think the neo is going to sell like hotcakes, It's great value for money.
I wish it had 16 gigs of RAM but I don't think that's because of Apples greed this time. I feel like they would have had a hard time hitting the price point with the way RAM is now.
I'll wait until the used market is flooded with them in a year or two and get a green one cheap.

I doubt the current RAM gold rush has anything to do with it.

Apple Silicon chips have the CPU, GPU, RAM and storage all on one die, so these were taped out for prototyping at least a year ago.

It’s more likely that these are a targeted product for basic workloads.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

An iPhone 5C for the MacBook line. I'd think even under medium use it would struggle under 8GB of memory.

I wish it had 16 gigs of RAM but I don't think that's because of Apples greed this time. I feel like they would have had a hard time hitting the price point with the way RAM is now.

It was Apple's choice of the A18 Pro that led it to have 8 GB, but otherwise it's a technical limitation of POP memory:

Wccftech: MacBook Neo’s 8GB RAM Limitation Isn’t Apple Deliberately Cutting Corners, But How The A18 Pro Has Been Designed (archive) - https://x.com/highyieldYT/status/2029220454553010358

 

[Harry Dresden]

I think the neo is going to sell like hotcakes, It's great value for money.
I wish it had 16 gigs of RAM but I don't think that's because of Apples greed this time. I feel like they would have had a hard time hitting the price point with the way RAM is now.
I'll wait until the used market is flooded with them in a year or two and get a green one cheap.

I'm most definitely considering buying a MacBook in a year or two once they become cheap enough to replace my $300 Windows laptop. I'm still not sold on some aspects of macOS, like the weird window management, but everything else about it seems good. I used to love my old Chromebook until the keys broke, so I'm sure I would love a MacBook, especially because I'm Mac's target demographic of boomers who only browse the web, with the bonus being having GarageBand on a MacBook allows me to be a lit gangster rapper.

 

[Diesel]

It was Apple's choice of the A18 Pro that led it to have 8 GB, but otherwise it's a technical limitation of POP memory:

Oh yeah you're right. I had no idea it was packaged that way. I've seen people swap the NAND chips on the M1 computers before to upgrade the storage and ram but you can't really do that when it's baked right into the chip.

 

[HairyBadger]

I know NOTHING about AI and LLM's, what little I do know is skimmed from blogs and mainstream press, and AI generated Youtube videos, so , results may vary.

The world seems to be buying up graphic chipsets, and RAM and Storage chipsets in order to build massive data centers in deserts to scoop up water and electricity in order for some Twitter dipshit to ask "grok, is this true"? Racks upon racks of air-conditioned sheds with back-up hydro generators for when the sun don't shine.
It must cost hundreds upon hundreds of millions to build that, let alone operate it.

Can someone explain to me what a token is?

Why would you want your thoughts and emotions processed in the cloud? It's going to be stolen along with your trouser measurements and your boyfriend's nudes.

Apple 'seem', remember, I am a fucking moron, seem to be building chipsets that are becoming capable of processing 50 Billion parameter models on their fucking laptops.

Something is not clicking here, and it's probable me, but can someone explain why we need 40 data centers to figure out that the color blue is not red, and that a thing happened, because it happed.


ok, I'll give myself the autistic badge for that.

 

[Pissmaster]

What is going on with Apple Maps?




Those are just from sorting by Most Recent. Some of these reviews say it used to be great for a while, but has since gone downhill. What happened? Did they get jeeted?

(You can't sort reviews by most recent on the desktop view, you really do have to use an iPhone to see these)

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

As far as I am aware it has always sucked since launch day. Personally, I can't live without the satellite view in google maps.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

What is going on with Apple Maps?

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Those are just from sorting by Most Recent. Some of these reviews say it used to be great for a while, but has since gone downhill. What happened? Did they get jeeted?

(You can't sort reviews by most recent on the desktop view, you really do have to use an iPhone to see these)

The funny thing is that, in some places, Apple has Google Maps totally beaten.

About 8 years ago, I moved into a brand-new house. Apple had the whole subdivision accurately mapped to a T, while Google Maps insisted my house was located where the mailbox for the street was, which was 8 houses away.

I have heard similar stories from other Albertans.

 

[Susanna]

Apple Maps has always worked fine for me, though in the past it lacked a lot of features compared to other map apps. Like it wouldn’t show speed limits and warn if you were approaching a camera. Nowadays it has both, as well as 3D buildings in the map view and other things that make it actually my favourite map app. That’s together with no ads and smooth integration with messages and contacts. Other map apps have a lot of catching up to do and ads to take out back for a quick bullet to the head.

 

[theanimecompletionist]

I bought myself a brand new Apple TV 4K 1st generation since I think that will end up being the last checkm8 exploitable device to jailbreak on modern Apple OSes aside from maybe the 1st generation HomePod.

I wanted to make sure I can run Kodi on my Apple TV.

As for the state of iOS/iPadOS, I have an iPad 6th generation that I use for reading ebooks that can go up to iPadOS 17.7.10, but people managed to port the iPad 7’s firmware over to it, extending it to iPadOS 18.7.5.

I don’t know if I’ll buy a new Apple device now that they can’t be jailbroken anymore. My iPhone 13 Pro is jailbroken, but with GrapheneOS coming to Motorola and Pixel releasing the Pixel Pro Fold, I am tiring myself of Apple.

All the while, Android is trying to disable sideloading and become more like iOS.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

I bought myself a brand new Apple TV 4K 1st generation since I think that will end up being the last checkm8 exploitable device to jailbreak on modern Apple OSes aside from maybe the 1st generation HomePod.

I wanted to make sure I can run Kodi on my Apple TV.

As for the state of iOS/iPadOS, I have an iPad 6th generation that I use for reading ebooks that can go up to iPadOS 17.7.10, but people managed to port the iPad 7’s firmware over to it, extending it to iPadOS 18.7.5.

I don’t know if I’ll buy a new Apple device now that they can’t be jailbroken anymore. My iPhone 13 Pro is jailbroken, but with GrapheneOS coming to Motorola and Pixel releasing the Pixel Pro Fold, I am tiring myself of Apple.

All the while, Android is trying to disable sideloading and become more like iOS.

Cool story, bro.

Nobody gives a shit.

 

[theanimecompletionist]

Cool story, bro.

Nobody gives a shit.

Enjoy sucking Tim Apple’s AIDS infested cock

 

[Samuel Fuller]

Enjoy sucking Tim Apple’s AIDS infested cock

Not everyone has the same career goals you do, stubby.