Apartment living sucks - I hate my neighbors so much it's unreal

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Mamimi

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I live in a farmhouse that was converted into 2 apartments. The rent is exceedingly cheap for the area because the landowner's profits come from the farm itself, and the house was already there. The catch is the lease stipulates we are responsible for coordinating and paying for heating oil deliveries. 2 weeks after moving in at the beginning of January, we noticed the oil was running low. I texted the guy in the adjoining unit (we'll call him Goofer) asking about ordering some. I received no reply for days, so my boyfriend set up an account with a nearby oil provider, and I called the company to set up a delivery. Because of the snow they could not make it until next week. That weekend, the pipes froze and we did not have running water. This also resulted in the family in the other house on the farm losing their running water. A plumber arrived and mentioned to the property manager (landowner's sister) that the oil was running low. The woman in the other house called me and kept bitching about how this has never happened before. The property manager also called me to blame us for allowing the oil to run too low and said Goofer and I would be required to cover the cost of any repairs. I defended myself by pointing out that Goofer hadn't replied to me and I had scheduled a delivery anyway. Even though the oil was low, we still had heat, and the plumber ultimately explained to everyone that the pipes froze simply because of low temperatures. I received no apology and the property manager doubled down on scolding us like children for allowing the oil to run low. It left a bad taste in my mouth.

I should also mention that Goofer has a habit of allowing his alarm clock to go off for 20 minutes or more. It's not that he doesn't wake up, he just doesn't shut it off until my boyfriend bangs on the wall. One time Goofer's mom showed up and was knocking on the door for a half hour and encountered my boyfriend when he went outside for a smoke. Recently, the landowner texted my boyfriend asking if he'd seen Goofer lately and asked my boyfriend to let Goofer know they needed to talk. Boyfriend saw Goofer outside and mentioned it to him. Goofer claimed his phone was busted, but boyfriend saw him texting on it a few hours later. I'm bringing all this up because it paints a picture of this guy's reliability. He is in his early 30s.

Because of all this, I order the oil on my own and don't even bother mentioning it to Goofer until I receive the bill and ask him for his half. The problem is, Goofer also ignores these texts. Last year I received no reply for days and eventually included the property manager in a group text asking for it. He texted me separately saying he'd pay me next week. I was pretty flush at the time so I gave him an extra 2 weeks. The date came and I texted a reminder. He finally paid up at this point.

On the 5th, we received the delivery and I asked for his half - $368. Nothing for a few days. My patience was wearing thin so I included the property manage in a text. Goofer said he would pay me Friday, a week later. Friday came, and I knocked on his door that evening. I think he was expecting a pizza or something because he actually answered. He said, "What's up?" as if I was there asking for a cup of sugar or some shit. I asked for the money. He said he was low on cash and would pay me on Thursday. I went home and emailed the property manager the next day explaining my concerns. She told me she messaged him directly and said they'd stay on top of it.

That Friday, a day after Goofer promised to compensate me, I sent a group text asking for it. He said he was "waiting for some money to come in." So yesterday I asked for it again. He sent me $350. At this point I was fucking pissed, rejected the payment, and group texted them saying that I needed the full amount (including the receipt from the oil company so there was no confusion). Then I said, "Forget about paying me, I'm just going to deduct it from my rent this month and they can collect it from you." This got the manager's attention and she said, "It doesn't work that way, your lease stipulates tenants have a shared responsibility to coordinate the oil orders." Goofer said I needed to chill and was making a big deal over "a couple of bucks" and that he would have just sent me the remaining $18 if I asked. I stated that I was done ordering the oil due to him repeatedly ignoring me and lying about when he'd pay me. Property manager said, "Well, this system has worked for 50 years!" I said it clearly was not working and if I was going to be expected to continue ordering it, I would need to be compensated for the other half in advance.

It's so fucking obnoxious. I'm the one being responsible yet I'm treated as the bad guy when I finally get a little snippy. In total I had to ask Goofer 5 times to pay me back - 6 if you include me reminding him that it was $368, not $350. I doubt the landowner would be that mellow if he had to be asked 5 times to pay the rent and then sent less than the balance when he finally did. Although given the landowner recently trying and failing to get in touch with him, my boyfriend and I suspect he's been delinquent on the rent too. I genuinely think he's not going to be able to pay the actual rent at the beginning of the month. I hope he gets evicted. Also, he brings a woman over at night and she makes obnoxious sex noises that sound like a toddler screaming. A normal guy shouldn't be able to maintain an erection with someone making baby noises... just saying.
 
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Goofer sounds like he's whatever the white-person equivalent is to being called a nigger. Not since the burning fields of Kuwait has oil caused so many issues between neighbours. I say, beat the shit out him with a bat - if that's not your preferred option, just keep CC-ing the property manager in emails/texts until they get the point that this dude is the problem, not you. And I'm sorry this is happening to you, obnoxious neighbours really can ruin quality of life.
 
Just tell them that if they won't make him leave, you will be leaving.

Them being pissy at you is nothing. You can just ignore it completely if they ignore your concerns. Clearly the other tenant is the issue and they know it, they would rather offset it on you.

Same goes for covering the cost of ANY repairs. Talk is cheap, let him try and force you to pay anything without going to court over it and most likely lose. Just tell them to eat shit.
 
Not gonna lie, aside from the nightmare of having to wait for heating oil delivery and frozen pipes, having an "apartment" that's essentially just half a farmhouse sounds pretty ideal.

For various reasons, I'll be looking for an apartment soon and I would much rather live in an old farmhouse with just one neighbour in the building than in a highrise with potentially hundreds of them
 
You had me at the start, then I scrolled down and saw that your post was longer than most books in the library and sounds entirely like unremarkable griping.

Don't you have like a soccer coach or priest you can tell this story to? You know, somebody who isn't me?
 
Bro, is the cheap rent worth this type of hassle? The manager is shit and seems to be set in their ways, Doofus is going to do this passive aggressive shit as long as he can get away with it. I get this apartment is a deal but you might have to look very slightly above your price bracket and find some where with a solid manager because it does make all the difference.
 
Not gonna lie, aside from the nightmare of having to wait for heating oil delivery and frozen pipes, having an "apartment" that's essentially just half a farmhouse sounds pretty ideal.

For various reasons, I'll be looking for an apartment soon and I would much rather live in an old farmhouse with just one neighbour in the building than in a highrise with potentially hundreds of them
The location is good. I like being left alone and I've never even met the property owner himself. It just sucks during winter because of the oil thing, plus the place is heated by radiators that sound like pots and pans banging together all night.
 
Goofer has probably been doing this for ages and ages if he was there before you. People probably just give up and let him do what he wants, then move out.

Apartment living sucks, because you always like you're on eggshells trying to be a good neighbor while there is always one person who is a loud obnoxious asshole. Wood frame buildings are the worst as you can hear everything above and below you in addition to everything in the halls.
 
Goofer has probably been doing this for ages and ages if he was there before you. People probably just give up and let him do what he wants, then move out.

Apartment living sucks, because you always like you're on eggshells trying to be a good neighbor while there is always one person who is a loud obnoxious asshole. Wood frame buildings are the worst as you can hear everything above and below you in addition to everything in the halls.
That's what really annoys me. I gave him a break in the past. Now he's trying to present the situation like he's an easygoing guy and I'm an uptight bitch unwilling to give him a break. No good deed goes unpunished. I'm not a naturally aggressive or strict person, I was forced into this position by him taking advantage.
 
That's what really annoys me. I gave him a break in the past. Now he's trying to present the situation like he's an easygoing guy and I'm an uptight bitch unwilling to give him a break. No good deed goes unpunished. I'm not a naturally aggressive or strict person, I was forced into this position by him taking advantage.
Don't let him reframe the situation. Just stick to the facts of the matter. Every time he deflects, get him back on track. If he says he's lived there for years, ask why the fuel isn't in his name. If he says he'll pay you next week, ask him why a man doesn't have 368 dollars for a known expense. If he underpays you, ask why he doesn't have 18 dollars. Make him answer, don't let him weasel out. If he says "I don't know, I'm stupid" or anything like that. He's trying to defuse the situation by appearing to admit fault. Do not let him weasel out like that.

Lazy guys like this are used to having people pick up the slack for them. Eventually you will find you can be pissed longer than he can be lazy.

I have a lot of subordinates like this. It is the only thing that works.
 
Try this:
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I've been doing apartment living for 6 years now, I miss living in a house. I lived in my childhood home after my parents gave me it and moved to another home. Then they sold it and I moved out of state. This maybe my last year of apartment living. I'm thinking about getting a van and living in it because the car I have now is on it's last legs. Plus, my lease runs out at the end of the year.
 
A white guy sees this thread and thinks, "Heehee Goofer sure is a scramp, where is my oil?" A white woman sees this thread and thinks, "Finally, this is my struggle personified. I will make this work. I will become the oil delivery woman."
 
The location is good. I like being left alone and I've never even met the property owner himself. It just sucks during winter because of the oil thing, plus the place is heated by radiators that sound like pots and pans banging together all night.
I didn't get far past your heating oil thing. That's common depending where you are, coordinate with the service company, you should have a fireplace tho depending on the age of the building and cord of wood is cheap, you can probably talk to a neighbor and get one for $20. Don't take the landlords bullshit on upkeep, it's their responsibility, but trying to pass it down to the renter is very common. Other than money your location sounds great, do you get free eggs?
 
Goofer just sounds like a stereotypical millennial manchild with no inner monologue and a very poor theory of mind.
 
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