US AP: FACT FOCUS: Biden administration isn't banning gas stoves - They're not going to ban gas stoves, just regulate them of existence

FACT FOCUS: Biden administration isn't banning gas stoves
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Josh Kelety
2023-01-13 00:23:36GMT

The Biden administration has come under fire this week due to overcooked fears that it is planning a nationwide ban on gas stoves.

The claim was sparked by comments from a Consumer Product Safety Commission official published Monday that “any option is on the table” when it comes to regulating gas stoves, amid growing health concerns over the appliances. In the days after, discussion online evoked images of the government dragging four-burner cooktops from homes, as social media users shared memes of gas stoves with text like, “Don’t Tread On Me.”

“I’ll NEVER give up my gas stove. If the maniacs in the White House come for my stove, they can pry it from my cold dead hands. COME AND TAKE IT!!” conservative Texas GOP Rep. Ronny Jackson said on Twitter Tuesday.

But officials insist that people’s kitchen appliances are in no danger. Here’s a closer look at the facts.

CLAIM: The Biden administration is planning a ban on gas stoves nationwide.

THE FACTS: The White House says President Joe Biden would not support a ban, and the commission, an independent agency, says no such ban is in the works.

“I am not looking to ban gas stoves and the CPSC has no proceeding to do so,” CPSC Chair Alex Hoehn-Saric said in a statement on Wednesday.

The notion that the government may regulate some stoves out of existence in the future isn’t totally baseless. In an interview published Monday by Bloomberg News, Richard Trumka Jr., a CPSC commissioner who was nominated to the post by Biden and has concerns that gas stoves emit dangerous levels of toxic chemicals, was quoted as saying: “Any option is on the table. Products that can’t be made safe can be banned.”

However, Trumka tweeted later that day to clarify that he was talking about regulation on new products.

“To be clear, CPSC isn’t coming for anyone’s gas stoves,” he wrote. “Regulations apply to new products.”

Despite this, news of a potential “gas stove ban” continued to spread in headlines and on social media. Some users, including Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, shared an old photo of first lady Jill Biden cooking on a gas stove, suggesting hypocrisy.

“The federal government has no business telling American families how to cook their dinner. I can tell you the last thing that would ever leave my house is the gas stove that we cook on,” West Virginia Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin tweeted Tuesday.

The White House responded by distancing itself from Trumka’s comments.

“The president does not support banning gas stoves,” White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said at a press briefing on Wednesday. “And the Consumer Product Safety Commission, which is independent, is not banning gas stoves.”

The CPSC is studying gas stove emissions and ways to address potential health risks and is seeking public input on the issue in the spring, Hoehn-Saric noted in his statement. Pamela Rucker Springs, a spokesperson for the commission, confirmed to The Associated Press that it has not proposed any regulatory action on gas stoves.

“The chairman’s statement makes it explicit what we are planning and what we’re not planning,” Springs said. “Anything otherwise said is to the contrary.”

Research has found that gas stoves in California are leaking cancer-causing benzene, while another study determined that U.S. gas stoves are contributing to global warming by putting 2.6 million tons of methane in the air each year even when turned off. There is good evidence that gas stoves emit harmful levels of oxides of nitrogen, which is known to cause asthma, said Dr. Aaron Bernstein, interim director of the center for climate, health, and the global environment at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

Some federal lawmakers have called on the commission to address the potential health risks through regulation, such as requiring that gas stoves be sold with range hoods to improve ventilation or issuing mandatory performance standards for gas stoves to address the health impacts of hazardous emissions. Some local governments have moved to ban new buildings from using natural gas, such as San Francisco and Berkeley, California.

Banning gas stoves isn’t a “practical response” to the research on the harmful effects of gas stoves, Bernstein said. Instead, steps should be taken to limit prolonged use of gas stoves and improve ventilation in kitchens with gas stoves, such as using vents or opening doors and windows, he said.

“What we know is that gas stoves release air pollutants that are absolutely known to be harmful,” Bernstein said. “And the part that’s harder to get clarity on is how much exposure are people getting in their homes.”
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I’m reminded of that King of the Hill episode where the city begins to confiscate all existing toilets in favor of economic and efficient low flow toilets. The entire thing fell apart when Hank held the council up in an endless filibuster until they had to take a shit, and realized how crappy the low flow toilets were.

That’s probably the case here. The people proposing this crap likely don’t cook often, or go into their kitchens. Electric and induction stovetops suck, and anyone who has used either for a length of time would kill to go back to using gas.
 
I prefer electric stoves, but this sudden attack on gas stoves is suspicious even to me. And the fact that it's happening in the dead of winter during an energy crisis makes it even stranger.

Gas stoves were fine for two centuries, but now all of a sudden they're toxic gas factories that kill you if you go anywhere near them. No facts or figures, of course, it's all "trust me bro". I think some higher ups in the CPSC have a bunch of stock in muh renewables and are trying to steer the market.
 
This regulating consumer goods based on questionable studies seems very vulnerable to challenge in court.

People would likely rally behind a brand that launched such a challenge.
 
Electric cookware is only good as mini induction(brian did a oopsy no no) convection ovens to heat up my pizza rolls and hot pockets (microwaves are for chumps). If you're a zoomer you know them as air fryers, get the old mini convection ovens from the 90's-2000's, Those are all metal and don't poison the house with carbon monoxide and other noxious fumes when that plastic shell starts sublimating all over the place when you decide to use it.
 
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Products that can’t be made safe can be banned.
That is an absolutely retarded take. There is always going to be an inherent level of risk applied to any product, but it's the responsibility of the purchaser/user to be aware of those risks and behave appropriately.

Anyway, I can think of some manufactures of gas stoves that will lobby Washington to not do that.
 
Surprised at the hate for induction cooktops, my experience with them has been decent. They’re quick to heat and responsive, turn off if you don’t have anything on them, only put heat into the pan you’re using and are easier to clean since they don’t burn spills. Main downsides are the noise and limitation on compatible cookware. Wondering whether people might’ve been getting them mixed up since a lot of modern convection cooktops (which are just shit) are designed to mimic the design of induction cooktops with the glass topped design. If it’s an induction cooktop it’ll vibrate slightly while in use, the convection ones glow.
 
Can someone please explain in non journo what is happening? I'm in Bongland and even my government aren't going as far to say they want to get rid of gas stoves, mainly because we would then have no electricity lol.

It's crazy to me how a country like the US can cause shortages and huge price rises on commodities they are self sufficient in. In the UK we were all on coal, then we stopped with it when we found gas. But the gas started drying up, lack of investment, cheaper/easier to just import it. So now we are fucked. As far as I know the US is a net exporter of shit like oil and gas?
 
I'm in Bongland and even my government aren't going as far to say they want to get rid of gas stoves, mainly because we would then have no electricity lol.
1. The people who write our laws are rich enough to pay to ignore the consequences, whether it be by getting privileged access to a restricted resource or by making someone else work with the gimped equipment.

2. If you subscribe to the depopulation operation theory, they want to run out of electricity. It only took 12 minutes without power to kill a man in California.
 
I prefer electric stoves, but this sudden attack on gas stoves is suspicious even to me. And the fact that it's happening in the dead of winter during an energy crisis makes it even stranger.

Gas stoves were fine for two centuries, but now all of a sudden they're toxic gas factories that kill you if you go anywhere near them. No facts or figures, of course, it's all "trust me bro". I think some higher ups in the CPSC have a bunch of stock in muh renewables and are trying to steer the market.
Yes, I'm very confused about this sudden autistic hatred of gas stoves. What the fuck is happening?
 
The government rarely bans anything these days, they just create Byzantine rules so only a select few can comply. Then banks lean hard into manufacturers of gas stoves and before you know it, they’re gone. Or only made by one business and there’s such a long line that it’ll take six months to get a stove. But they never actually ban it though and if you say otherwise, you’re a bigot and racist since gas stoves affect pee oh cees more for some reason.
 
The government rarely bans anything these days, they just create Byzantine rules so only a select few can comply. Then banks lean hard into manufacturers of gas stoves and before you know it, they’re gone. Or only made by one business and there’s such a long line that it’ll take six months to get a stove. But they never actually ban it though and if you say otherwise, you’re a bigot and racist since gas stoves affect pee oh cees more for some reason.
What do the banks have against gas stoves?
 
Can someone please explain in non journo what is happening? I'm in Bongland and even my government aren't going as far to say they want to get rid of gas stoves, mainly because we would then have no electricity lol.

It's crazy to me how a country like the US can cause shortages and huge price rises on commodities they are self sufficient in. In the UK we were all on coal, then we stopped with it when we found gas. But the gas started drying up, lack of investment, cheaper/easier to just import it. So now we are fucked. As far as I know the US is a net exporter of shit like oil and gas?
Because the West Coast. And Texas because they don't prepare for the freezes that come every few years. There's no excuse, but look at the stupid that happens in the UK, and that's with just 3 semi-autonomous nations, not 50. By the same rate we've got 17 Scotlands.
 
Yes, I'm very confused about this sudden autistic hatred of gas stoves. What the fuck is happening?
If I had to guess, this serves multiple purpose:
  • Virtue signaling for dumbass sheep
  • Distraction from bigger story
  • Testing new 2A deflections
  • Set the stage to compare gun totin' patriots with hysterical lily white Karens
What do the banks have against gas stoves?
Something something ovens something oy vey
 
There was a guy on Twitter who had a tool that could measure the actual "pollutants" coming off the gas stove and all the ones they're bitching about were absolutely minuscule. Single digit and lower PPM and such, low enough the proper response to anyone who actually believes the single, uncorroborated, study they're basing this off of would be to bounce said person's empty head off something blunt until the demons of stupidity leave them. It is, of course, absolute bullshit and they likely just want to remove people's ability to cook anything off the power grid since they can't turn your gas off if you're a bad thinker.
 
Remember, it's not murder if the government says it's okay! Same concept here.
 
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