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I was reading the manga for that one, it at least has a plausible explanation of where the skill trees for different classes are largely unknown and any discoveries are kept secret. The MC has the advantage of knowing all of the skill trees and what combinations will basically make a class “broken”

He was mocked and disowned for choosing the heavy knight because the class is known to be horribly flawed, but he knows how to add a counterpart skill that fixes the main flaws of the class and making it overpowered. He does the same thing for his closest ally, who had chosen a class that has a high level of luck and he helped her get a skill or item that has a massively strong critical hit (which happens frequently due to her high luck stat)

It’s reasonable to expect him as a gamer to have read all of the guides about the skill trees and available items, while most people in the world would have to discover the secrets of the skill tree by trial and error - and they would completely disregard classes and skills that seem useless because they can’t risk exploring the skill trees as they cannot change their class or skills after they have been chosen. If they pick a skill and it’s bad they are permanently fucked, they might not know that it becomes good down the road and they might make a wrong turn somewhere and completely miss the overpowered skill
Sure, that all makes sense but at that point you lose me because the video game mechanics are still retarded to include in a piece of media where the world is supposed to be a real world.
 
Exiled Heavy Knight
In this world, it is not possible to re spec or undo anything you have done to your skill tree. Once you pick a bum skill you are completely screwed for life and are considered useless garbage. And “experimenting” is prohibitively expensive even if you kidnap a bunch of orphans to run your experiments on, as skills are unlocked either by levelling up or purchasing skill books that were awarded in dungeons. The mc is insanely overpowered by knowing the skill trees and how skill books interact with them, but it makes sense because the gods that created the world didn’t give people a way to undo their changes to their skill trees or look up future branches to see what would happen if they went down a specific path.
Stop watching trash, your brain will thank you for it.
 
Sure but to be fair that is something that in general applies to a lot of mangaka. It's often the anime adaptation that is more popular and well known.
True but there's a huge gap in noiteritiy between the Ghost in the Shell adaptations, the manga and the rest of Shirow's work not only are they not as popular or well recieved some have flat out not even been adapted to fruition (Orion). So Im thankful that out of all his work GitS got the most love and attention.


Can't wait for that whiplash to happen and to hear some opinions about it.
That's what Im waiting to see too.
 
It's not just an Oriental author problem either; I've noticed a lot of people who do this issekai shit tend to fall into the trap of making everyone a lot stupider than they realistically should be.
Off topic, but this (along with wokeshit) has been pissing me off with action movies.

If the teenage girl can fight off three experienced and well equiped Yakuza assassins, on their home turf, using just a kitchen knife, why the fuck does she need a bodyguard? The final fight scene in a cabin has a part where a guy walks in the door behind them, 12 foot away, fires his automatic weapon at them, and fails to land a single shot while the hero scrabbles for a gun and shoots him. This happens multiple times in the same fight.

I was reading the manga for that one, it at least has a plausible explanation of where the skill trees for different classes are largely unknown and any discoveries are kept secret. The MC has the advantage of knowing all of the skill trees and what combinations will basically make a class “broken”

He was mocked and disowned for choosing the heavy knight because the class is known to be horribly flawed, but he knows how to add a counterpart skill that fixes the main flaws of the class and making it overpowered. He does the same thing for his closest ally, who had chosen a class that has a high level of luck and he helped her get a skill or item that has a massively strong critical hit (which happens frequently due to her high luck stat)

It’s reasonable to expect him as a gamer to have read all of the guides about the skill trees and available items, while most people in the world would have to discover the secrets of the skill tree by trial and error - and they would completely disregard classes and skills that seem useless because they can’t risk exploring the skill trees as they cannot change their class or skills after they have been chosen. If they pick a skill and it’s bad they are permanently fucked, they might not know that it becomes good down the road and they might make a wrong turn somewhere and completely miss the overpowered skill
Wasn't that a famous 4chan story like that, where a guy picked the wrong skill in an anime RP server, and ended up making the admins rage quit?
 
Yoji Shinkawa knocked the end card for the GiTS anime outta the park.

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Wasn't that a famous 4chan story like that, where a guy picked the wrong skill in an anime RP server, and ended up making the admins rage quit?
The story of Edgardo. The whole story is probably made up but he chose colorless mana in a setting where all the good spells were tied to elemental mana and he couldn't wield any elements. The one upside to colorless mana was that he had no cap on how many mana points he could amass but it didn't help him much since mana regenerated pretty slowly, so him and his buddy traveled to some town way off in the ass end of nowhere that had a magic spring that instantly topped off your mana and he used that to give himself infinite mana which made him infinitely powerful since all abilities were able to "spend [x] to boost ability".


Which is why I think that the whole story is probably bunk because like, there is absolutely no fucking way that this freeform RP had been around for years and no one had put two and two together on that exploit. But yeah, it's basically an isekai plot since his adversary was a group of really sweaty troglodite RPers who were friends with the admins and got special treatment and rather than just ban his ass they let him do his retarded buillshit to the point that it broke the entire forum and shut it all down, which would probably never actually happen.

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got a couple of details wrong but the broadstrokes are the same. I stand by saying that this is literally a useless skill is actually OP plot ten years before that genre became popular.
 
Okay, I just kept up with Daemons of the Shadow Realm now. It's alright, has some cool action scenes and most characters are interesting but nothing to write home about so far. The pink haired girl is a kind of annoying tbh.
 
Sure, that all makes sense but at that point you lose me because the video game mechanics are still retarded to include in a piece of media where the world is supposed to be a real world.
Exactly, trying to ram Dragon Quest logic (or in this case Etrian Odyssey) is godawful storytelling that is extremely arbitrary for no real payoff or logic. Systems in RPGs work because you are supposed to disregard them as part of the setting and see them more of a way to signify character's experiences rather than being a literal foundation of the world.
 
Systems in RPGs work because you are supposed to disregard them as part of the setting and see them more of a way to signify character's experiences rather than being a literal foundation of the world.
They work because they allow you to create balance and structure in order to allow for a mechanical system and facilitate the G in RPG as opposed to simply performing freeform roleplay. That's because RPG stands for Roleplaying Game. If you're writing a story it kneecaps you entirely and shouldn't exist, ESPECIALLY not if you want to use a class based system since the entire point of that design philosophy is to promote party play and cooperation so that no one player gets to be the main character since every class has weaknesses that other classes can compensate for.
 
Cyberpunk season two should be fun.
The original season was kino, and I respect the fuck out of it for having Adam Smasher be a total walking calamity because there are indeed levels to this shit. “You think you’re special because you’re scrappy” was such a great line, and the episode where Maine died was peak television.
I love it, I’m a Triggerfag, I’ll watch the new season and probably enjoy it.
The point of these cyberpunk stories is that the flame that burns hot burns quick, from the inception of the genre I would argue that that’s a central motif and it definitely is in-universe.
 
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Done with the first episode of the new Ghost in the Shell. So finally we have a 1-1 adaptation of the original work. Might cause quite the whiplash for people unfamiliar with the manga. The show looks gorgeous and the only criticism I have so far is the OST.
The animation is really impressive. I like the effects like the audio player on screen and the way they censor the blood, it reminds me of the Kane and Lynch 2 game.
Most of the OST in the episode was OK, it's not Yoko Kanno but I'll take it. Don't like the end credits song though.
 
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