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Super no Ura de Yani Suu Futar just got released. All twelve episodes at once. I hate it when they do that.
 
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Heckler1 dijo:
Most shonen is kind of dogshit once you get out of your teens. It turns into overcomplicated power systems and scaling so fast that only the most autistic/emotionally stunted/or stockholmed of viewers say it's good.
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Nah dude shonen is still good, the issue is trying to think about it rather than enjoy the aura farming and peak moments.
 
Seminar dijo:
But how is the quality is it a fun story or just ok ?
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Oddjob OTP dijo:
It's mostly something you watch if you like to see the main character squad do nation building because Rimeru's power is making fights he was probably going to win suddenly incredibly one sided pulling a new power up out of his ass. Him being a man with the form of a women is mostly ignoreable because he has no sex drive because it's not that anime.
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What Oddjob said: the show's main focus is on the Main Character and his goon squad trying to build their own nation and the political and economic situations that develop from that. If you like that sort of thing and the characters are interesting to you then you'll like it, but otherwise don't bother. Personally I'm not a huge fan of it but I wouldn't say that it's bad, the first season does suffer from some serious pacing and story issues though imo where it seems to want to actually set things up and take its time for the first half and then suddenly it goes balls to the wall full bore sprint in the second half for no real reason which I can discern.

And yeah, Oddjob is right about the girlboy thing, it isn't a fetish because the main character is literally sexless and so he takes an androgynous human form. He has no real sex drive and so it's not played for laughs or fetish material, it's just how he is.
wtfNeedSignUp dijo:
Nah dude shonen is still good, the issue is trying to think about it rather than enjoy the aura farming and peak moments.
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Sorry man. I'm an adult. And I'm not brown.
 
Heckler1 dijo:
Most shonen is kind of dogshit once you get out of your teens. It turns into overcomplicated power systems and scaling so fast that only the most autistic/emotionally stunted/or stockholmed of viewers say it's good.
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The thing I always hate about shonen powerscaling is the way it completely ruins fights. Caught up to the upstream of One Piece recently and even in the "good" post timeskip arcs, none of the fights make me really feel anything compared to what Luffy vs Crocodile and Luffy vs Enel did. Because in those cases the fights were oriented around outsmarting the opponent and finding exploits within their abilities. Now everything is just an incomprehensible mess of flashing colors. While Gear 5 can be kind of entertaining to watch because of the quality of the animation, it also just kinda leads to fights feeling like asspulled victory laps rather than actual struggles and I imagine the battles at Laugh Tale are gonna be fucking ridiculous messes because of how powerful Oda has made luffy. It also sucks the fun out of Devil Fruits because none of these abilities even mean anything anymore and every fight feels the same anyways.
 
FPTMIU dijo:
The thing I always hate about shonen powerscaling is the way it completely ruins fights.
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Which is a big part of the reason why the best shonen series will tend to sideline the fights in favor of focusing on other things. But then the author will often not be very good at that either and so you'll get five episodes of people sitting around a table making dramatic statements that should be obvious to anyone with half a brain but the characters treat as world shattering revelations.
 
Sleazy Car Salesman dijo:
Which is a big part of the reason why the best shonen series will tend to sideline the fights in favor of focusing on other things.
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And somehow One Piece doesn't even do that right despite the fact that it was actually pretty good at that before.

Also I don't even think One Piece needed to powerscale, Devil Fruit abilities are basically just stands without the punching ghosts and Araki specifically wrote stands into Jojo to AVOID the powerscaling nightmare he put himself into with ultimate Kars and to his credit, Jojo managed to keep having interesting fights well into the later parts without much powerscaling autism present.
 
Gravityqueen4life dijo:
All twelve episodes at once. I hate it when they do that.
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Why? I prefer when I can watch stuff at my own pace instead of getting weekly blue balls waiting for the next release. Even when there's something airing that I'm interested in I prefer to wait until that show or season is finished airing before watching it. Something's gotta be really good for me to watch it as it's airing.
 
Seething Bazelgeuse dijo:
Why? I prefer when I can watch stuff at my own pace instead of getting weekly blue balls waiting for the next release. Even when there's something airing that I'm interested in I prefer to wait until that show or season is finished airing before watching it. Something's gotta be really good for me to watch it as it's airing.
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Online discussions tends to die down when a show is released in bulks.
 
Seething Bazelgeuse dijo:
Why? I prefer when I can watch stuff at my own pace instead of getting weekly blue balls waiting for the next release. Even when there's something airing that I'm interested in I prefer to wait until that show or season is finished airing before watching it. Something's gotta be really good for me to watch it as it's airing.
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Which is fine but there are plenty of people who prefer the slower release schedule as it not only gives them more to look forward to for a longer period but also keeps the show feeling fresh for longer and it allows you to really take in the previous episode as you have time to ruminate on it before going straight to the next one.

Plus, if there's a particularly dry season it's nice to space out the one or two good shows, and in a season with lots of hits it's nice to have shows come out on different days and so you have a fresh episode every couple of days.
 
Heckler1 dijo:
Most shonen is kind of dogshit once you get out of your teens. It turns into overcomplicated power systems and scaling so fast that only the most autistic/emotionally stunted/or stockholmed of viewers say it's good.
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Frieren is a shonen. So is Komi can't communicate or Spy Family. While I'm ahead, Ruri Dragon (which people will talk about since Kyo Ani is doing the anime) is also a shonen. Not everything under the shonen demographic is a "battle shonen". That isn't to say those also don't lose most of their appeal when you aren't a teenager (especially the school RomComs) but it's essentially the same shit; comics with mass appeal whose target demographic are kids/teenagers. The mass appeal part is important because that is why 90% of discussion you see online will be shonen shit; battle or not.

The world would be a better place if more people read seinen or josei books but as much as we try to deny it, we're social by nature. We want in on the latest popular thing or to at least be kind of knowledgeable on it. That's why you get people who will read or watch JJK/Kimetsu and seethe about it online endlessly. Even I'm guilty of it since I've read both to completion despite not being a big fan of either. If I were to say Houseki Kuni or Lovely Complex are fucking garbage no one would care outside of maybe 1 neckbeard and a handful of tumblr schizos. We just have to accept we suffer by choice.
 
TommyHeavenly6 dijo:
Frieren is a shonen. So is Komi can't communicate or Spy Family. While I'm ahead, Ruri Dragon (which people will talk about since Kyo Ani is doing the anime) is also a shonen. Not everything under the shonen demographic is a "battle shonen".
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Hell, even fucking Death Note is a Shounen released on Shounen Jump, the terms Shounen, Seinen, etc. are demographics, not genres.
 
Wilson The Ball dijo:
This nigga hasn't watched the original Funimation dub of DBZ before they remade everything. Has no inkling of a clue what "Mondo Cool" is
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There was always something about hard rock and refrigerator-sized men punching each other through mountains that just worked. If someone can't appreciate Goku changing into a super saiyan to the backdrop of "Change" by fucking Deftones - they may be a faggot.
 
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