💼 Careercow Andrew Dobson (aka Tom Preston)

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Null dijo:
The BIGGEST THING that sticks out to me is this fucking bush.

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This bush doesn't need to be. It doesn't have a reason to exist outside of being there to make the picture look nice. But that's why it should exist. He totally went fucking Bob Ross and added a happy little bush out of a happy little accident. He never does this anymore and I don't understand why.

Look at the newer comic. There's nothing extra. No posters on the wall, no paintings, no lamps, no side tables, not a fucking thing. The entire scene is so devoid of character and what is there lacks the attention to detail this fucking bush had 2 years ago. Look at how there's 4 different kinds of greens and they're all shaded and it looks like he spent time getting it to be the best bush he could draw. That sofa didn't get this attention. There's no stains or shading or cushions. No little buttons that bevel the surface. No flourishes or accents. 1 solid color for the fill, 1 solid color for the line. 1 sofa. Nothing else.
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Now that you mention it, even the characters are shaded nicely in the older one... there's absolutely no shading whatsoever in the new one!

Theres a difference between getting comfortable with your new designs and how you draw... and then there's pure laziness.
 
It also looks like he just copy/pasted 90% of the first panel in the more recent comic. For some reason the couch has moved more to right in the second panel, but everything else is the same. Emily's freckles haven't moved. The only parts of her face that have changed are her mouth, nose, eyebrows and glasses. And dear sweet baby loving Jesus her eyebrows! Her glasses! She got so upset she broke the bridge and her eyebrows exploded into caterpillars!! Jade's vest is a completely different length!!! HER HAND SWELLED UP TO BE BIGGER THAN HER FACE JESUS CHRIST !@#$%

Oh, and if you think that bush is impressive, check out that same couch two years ago:

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The sofa in the newer comic is so flat and the bag on it is so flat and ahhh perspective my brain can't make sense of it they're sort of melting together.
 
CuriousBystander dijo:
It also looks like he just copy/pasted 90% of the first panel in the more recent comic. For some reason the couch has moved more to right in the second panel, but everything else is the same. Emily's freckles haven't moved. The only parts of her face that have changed are her mouth, nose, eyebrows and glasses. And dear sweet baby loving Jesus her eyebrows! Her glasses! She got so upset she broke the bridge and her eyebrows exploded into caterpillars!! Jade's vest is a completely different length!!! HER HAND SWELLED UP TO BE BIGGER THAN HER FACE JESUS CHRIST !@#$%

Oh, and if you think that bush is impressive, check out that same couch two years ago:

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Knowing Dobson, I'm surprised that they aren't super fat balloon people from all that food.
 
Going to share an anecdote because I don't think it was ever mentioned here.

Does anybody remember his Obama Batman drawing?
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What he didn't say in the description was that he got help from /i/. I read the thread but unfortunately I was late to the party and I can't find an archived copy of it because it only goes as far as 2013.
Anyway, when he first arrived he tried to post incognito but was found out. At first there were hostilities because the weens were telling him to get the fuck out until others came in to tell them to pipe down because the thread might actually help Preston for once. He made several revisions until he got to the image you see there. People were surprisingly being positive because it looks like he's actually willing to listen to criticism.
Two years later and I think he forgotten all about it and didn't understand that if he wasn't a highly defensive and passive-aggressive douchebag, people would have returned the favor.

So close.
 
tom preston sure hates drawing chins.

he's the inverse of canadian-rainwater.
 
Even B^U has improved with time. Compare the art from the infamous miscarriage story to the art from when he first began and the improvement is obvious. I haven't been back to his comic in a long time, but judging from the strips I've stumbled across recently he is actually trying new things, including more dynamic poses. What I'm saying is comparing Dobson to Buckley is an insult to Buckley.

A more apt comparison could be made between Dobson and David Hopkins. Boy isn't that frightening.
 
CuriousBystander dijo:
Even B^U has improved with time. Compare the art from the infamous miscarriage story to the art from when he first began and the improvement is obvious. I haven't been back to his comic in a long time, but judging from the strips I've stumbled across recently he is actually trying new things, including more dynamic poses. What I'm saying is comparing Dobson to Buckley is an insult to Buckley.

A more apt comparison could be made between Dobson and David Hopkins. Boy isn't that frightening.
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Maybe I wasn't being specific enough, maybe I should have said early Buckley instead.

But you're right about the Dobson/Hopkins comparison- they both look and act like crap and their art doesn't do much better.
 
Christ-Chan dijo:
He has a wife. Not that that comes with any guarantees but there you go.
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I didn't think she was ever verified as "wife", though. Or am I wrong about that? Generally I see her referred to as his "roommate", though that may just be internet mocking shining through.

Satan dijo:
For realz I didn't know that. What does she think of his comics, I wonder...
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She's gotten mad at him for a few things he posted about her a while back, though it was more journals rather than comics, I believe. At any rate, that's why she stopped showing up in the strips.
 
Reymath dijo:
I didn't think she was ever verified as "wife", though. Or am I wrong about that? Generally I see her referred to as his "roommate", though that may just be internet mocking shining through.
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She's at least his girlfriend, but I'm pretty sure they're married now. I think she's Jewish to, or at least one of his exes were.
 
ToroidalBoat dijo:
I haven't really kept up with this thread, but the quality of Tom's art itself doesn't seem _that_ bad (at least the older comics). I mean, it's certainly nowhere near as bad as crappy MS-Paint doodles. I'd say it's about the same level of quality as popular newspaper comics.
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I don't really think it's bad either. Just incredibly mediocre.
 
Christ-Chan dijo:
She's at least his girlfriend, but I'm pretty sure they're married now. I think she's Jewish to, or at least one of his exes were.
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It's possible. I was basing my assumptions on a comment thread where someone outright asked him is he were married and he answered no, but that was a while ago and it's entirely possible the situation's changed. I would've expected Dobson to ramble on about it if it were the case, but then again she did ask him to stop talking about her.
...in fact I know the latter part is true because that's what she got mad at him over. (I believe he was whining about missing Christmas because she was Jewish. :lol: )

ToroidalBoat dijo:
I haven't really kept up with this thread, but the quality of Tom's art itself doesn't seem _that_ bad (at least the older comics). I mean, it's certainly nowhere near as bad as crappy MS-Paint doodles. I'd say it's about the same level of quality as popular newspaper comics.
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There's a couple of things there. I've already said that I personally feel like his art shows talent. If I'm being honest I think he's a better artist than I am...but I'd rather produce my art than his any day, because at least I put in some effort.
The quality of his lineart has been steadily degrading from a not very stellar starting point - his pencil drawings actually look pretty decent, but his "inks" (whether actual ink or digital) are just terrible by any standards, destroying any credibility he might have had. That an his coloring's gotten lazier. Again, I say "lazier" because we know he can do it, I thought he did some nice things on that Splatoon fanart color-wise he posted a while back, he just chooses not to...

...but ultimately, ALL of this would be fine if he didn't present himself as a "professional" as some kind of leader in the art world and turn away anyone who tried to tell him that no, actually, his methods are kind of terrible and should not be emulated. Is he the worst? No, but he's interesting to me for all the bluster and wasted potential. His art never rises above "mediocre" because he doesn't try and that combined with his attitude are what make him a fascinating train wreck for me.
 
Well I think it's less the art skill and more the awful attitude. Nevermind the fact that he's gotten really lazy (as already explained earlier) but I find that the tone of crits often depend on the artist.
Like I'm not very good at all but it's probably because I tend to be a bit mousy and prone to putting myself down that people end up being kind to me, too kind even. With someone like Preston, he's an egotistical clown who flips between thinking he's hot shit and blaming everyone else for why people are being so harsh when they'd probably be a bit nicer if he ever actually accepted crits at all.
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With people like myself and many, many superior artists, we try and take mistakes on board, Inflation Bear just throws a bitchfit or does a dimwitted "haha take that! Asspats plz!" comic.
I think even Chris himself would catch a break over his art if he had a shred of humility. People don't like the Haughty.
 
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There's a very funny connection between the second and third images you posted.

In the second, a professional in the industry calls out Dobson's teachings to impressionable artists. Dobson no doubt takes great pride in his role in this despite the fact he's damaging their artistic ability.
In the Third, he's shown to kill artists in order to make himself look good.

It's quite an apt metaphor really. Dobson can only be a good artist if he attacks art itself, dragging it down to his level.
 
ToroidalBoat dijo:
I haven't really kept up with this thread, but the quality of Tom's art itself doesn't seem _that_ bad (at least the older comics). I mean, it's certainly nowhere near as bad as crappy MS-Paint doodles. I'd say it's about the same level of quality as popular newspaper comics.
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Friendly reminder that Jim Davis can keep all his characters on model for decades. Tom Preston can't keep his characters on model for two panels.
 
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