America's changing demographics

[Billy "the Bot" Bobson]

I've probably stated this in a different way somewhere here before but it bears repeating : America should have done better integrating Native Americans into the Union. Letting them rot on the wayside so the Left could come in and take them under their multi-cultural banner was a massive mistake that everyone in the world will look back at and cite as being the third main reason why America fell apart.

What's more than likely going to happen is the collapse of the current Republican and Democratic party and the reformation into the "Right" Populist Party, blending the economic policies of the current Republican Party and the Social policies of the Democrat Party, and the "Left" Socialist Party taking the Progressives and Socialists, with the same mostly agreed view of America as the World Police (with token opposition on both sides). Hardly a new or unique take, but the most likely out of all other options. Marijuana will be legalized, but the new age for legal consumption of any regulated narcotic will be 23. Voter ID laws will be non-existant and the age to vote will be pushed down to 16.

Welcome to the new world.

It could have been different and beautiful...
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[Forgetful Gynn]

You are wrong, abso-fucking-lutely wrong.

Oh sorry, I forgot to include my source.

The US government calls anyone from countries south of the Rio Grande Latinos/Hispanics. If both sets of grandparents came from Europe, settled in Argentina, Chile or Paraguay, spoke Italian/German/Gaelic at home and then you emigrated to the United States, the US would classify you as Latino/Hispanic because the only criteria from falling into that class is being born in a country south of the border where the official language is Spanish.

That's an absolutely terrible example considering the US Government often records hispanics and latinos as white.

This was apparently moved by an assmad jannie.

 

[Rand /pol/]

You'd think latinos, having run away from countries with shit socialist economies

Ah yes Mexico and Honduras are incredibly Socialist.

 

[Disgruntled Pupper]

"Latin Americans can't make their own continent work and many of their countries are rife with literal communism, but surely once we import them north they'll be like us!"

 

[Pepsi-Cola]

It's almost like the republican party gives non-whites zero incentive to vote for them

this is clearly the fault of non-whites and not the backwards as fuck American political system

 

[The Pink Panther]

It's almost like the republican party gives non-whites zero incentive to vote for them

I mean yeah. Generally, Repubs don't market towards race or victimization, but rather towards policy. Because they do this instead of trying emotionally appeal with people, everybody hates on them. From my circle of family, people say that I act like a Republican because the common stereotype is that Repubs don't like appealing to the feelings of other people and don't really like expressing a lot of emotion. Generally, people like to associate politics with emotional appeal, and because Repubs don't do that, they falter.

This is why in turn they hate on Tramp because he does both; he, in a way, saved the fucking asses of the Repubcucklian party or at least expanded their lifespan by a few years. This is why you see a recent movement of Repubs trying to appeal to the feelings of minorities by putting out "based black conservative" figures like Jesse Lee Peterson and Candace Owens with the whole #BLEXIT thing. Imagine if the Repubs had the amount of scale in advertising and corporate backing that the Dems do.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

It's almost like the republican party gives non-whites zero incentive to vote for them

this is clearly the fault of non-whites and not the backwards as fuck American political system

Their platform is small government, self reliance, gun rights, freedom of speech, religious values and low taxes.

If non whites literally cannot stand the idea of not being reliant on a big government with their rights removed, enforced atheism (except when it's not a white religion) and taxed out the ass then what the fuck are they doing in America.

 

[Forgetful Gynn]

Their platform is small government, self reliance, gun rights, freedom of speech, religious values and low taxes.

If non whites literally cannot stand the idea of not being reliant on a big government with their rights removed, enforced atheism (except when it's not a white religion) and taxed out the ass then what the fuck are they doing in America.

Their platform is "Whatever Israel wants".

 

[Rand /pol/]

Their platform is small government, self reliance, ... and low taxes.

Which is code for "I hate poor people and love corporations".

 

[Johan Schmidt]

Which is code for "I hate poor people and love corporations".

Well yeah, but that's also the policy of the democrats; and the UK cons, and the UK Labour.

We're globalist nations now, the poor are easily replaced by more workers from around the world. So you gotta pick which brand of shit you want in the mainstream politics.

Their platform is "Whatever Israel wants".

True.

 

[TitusOvid]

I have faith the White race will win out over the long term. Hispanics include a lot of White Hispanics which the commies obfusticate to demoralize people. And the rest of the Hispanics generally are mixed with White people. Full blood Native American Hispanic is a minority. Hispanics and Asians want to be White more than anything and will cease to exist as a separate identity over time. The only problem is the blacks.

The problem with the Republican party has is that they are seen as old fashioned and uncool. They are in desperate need of a makeover.

 

[Pepsi-Cola]

Their platform is small government, self reliance, gun rights, freedom of speech, religious values and low taxes.

If non whites literally cannot stand the idea of not being reliant on a big government with their rights removed, enforced atheism (except when it's not a white religion) and taxed out the ass then what the fuck are they doing in America.

Hmm yes Hispanics not wanting to vote for trump must have something to do with the things you mentioned I can't think of a single other reason why

 

[Forgetful Gynn]

First off is the fact that the Latino community has more in common with the "White Ethnic" immigrant groups of the 1800's and 1900's (Italians, Irish, Poles, Greeks, Slavs, Ulster Scots) in terms of how they arrived here and why they arrived as well as their own cultural values.

Like the gangs and the massive amounts of crime? Or way they vote majority democrat?

The real issue is the unsecured border and the fact that corrupt state governments (California being the most egregious example) try to ensure that there remains a permanent underclass of city-dwelling "fresh off the boat" immigrants and their children to serve as a voting bloc.

Well to even say that's a thing is to affirm demographics are destiny, unless you think they're mistaken and that california going blue at the same time the latino population boomed is just a coincidence.

The other issue I have with it is that it's going off the notion that the current Sixth Party System will remain in place forever. It got its start in the late 60's and 70's, but it really didn't become fully codified until 1980.

I'm not familiar with what you mean by sixth party system.

1980 was forty years ago. The 1968 election was over fifty years ago. We're long overdue for another party realignment and major shift in the platforms, and I think the rise of Trump in 2016 (and The Squad in 2018 as well) are early signs of an impending realignment. If Trump wins 2020 and the Dems experience major losses in 2022, I think the Seventh Party System will truly begin in earnest.

I voted for Trump, but his actions and the way that everything is going is starting to make me wonder if the only reason he was allowed to win was to galvanize and activate the millions of "sleeper cell" antifa and other "woke" people with an easy target that fit most of the categories for "evil person I should hate and resist" that their psychological conditioning gave them.

It's entirely possible that the Seventh Party System could render the "demographics is destiny" issue a moot point if the parties do a total realignment. Feel free to disagree with me, I'm not an expert and this is just conjecture on my part.

Demographics is destiny is an observation of behaviors of the different races. No matter how the parties change themselves or rebrand themselves each race will continue to vote for the things that they want, which are rooted in mostly genetic issues with cultural issues downstream of that. So even if the parties call themselves something new, the latinos and the blacks will still vote for whoever is the most like the current democrat party. EG: whoever gives them the most free shit or whoever promises to make it easier to import the rest of their family out of the hellhole they abandoned.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

Hmm yes Hispanics not wanting to vote for trump must have something to do with the things you mentioned I can't think of a single other reason why

Is the other reason you're getting at because he doesn't want them here illegally? Are all Hispanics criminals? Is the reason they don't like Trump because he doesn't want a tide of people coming in from hispanic countries?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Oh sorry, I forgot to include my source.

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That's an absolutely terrible example considering the US Government often records hispanics and latinos as white.

This was apparently moved by an assmad jannie.

lol mine too so here it is

Oh sorry, I forgot to include my source.

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That's an absolutely terrible example considering the US Government often records hispanics and latinos as white.

Britannica is wrong. These are US categorizations used by the US government. These designations do not exist in any other country in the Americas or Europe. They were made up by Mexican-American politicians competing with blacks for redistricting, grants and appropriations based on state census populations.

I hate to burst your white identitarian beliefs but the indigenous and mestizo peoples outside of Mexico (which is in North America and not representative of every country south of it) are fairly homogeneous as Europeans, of all countries, strongly discouraged intermarriage with the natives. To call someone "Indio" or imply they have indigenous ancestors was, and still is, a huge insult (often ending up with one party dead).

When you see indigenous or mixed native-Europeans from South America in the US it's because they have no other choice to earn a large amount of money other than emigrating. The indigenous and mestizos are the lowest caste, lower than blacks in many cases, because the blacks are the descendants of former slaves whereas the Spanish/Portuguese fought the indigenous, took over their lands and they often continued to resist for decades. The native people of South America are a conquered people and Spain and the subsequent independent nations never let them forget it. It's harsh but true.

People who think Pepe from Guadalajara is representative of all Latinos/Hispanics are badly informed-I mean Argentina's first Admiral, Guillermo "William" Brown originally from County Mayo, is famous for blowing the Spaniards the fuck out of the Rio Plata and wrecking the Brazilians and Uruguay as well. For years the myth that Argentina's natives had been completely exterminated was believed by most because the natives had no reason to admit any indigenous ancestry and/or they were confined to far away estancias working as ranch hands so no one every saw or knew any.

 

[Forgetful Gynn]

Might as well just keep this shit here so poor jannie doesn't have to break a sweat.

I hate to burst your white identitarian beliefs but the indigenous and mestizo peoples outside of Mexico (which is in North America and not representative of every country south of it) are fairly homogeneous as Europeans, of all countries, strongly discouraged intermarriage with the natives. To call someone "Indio" or imply they have indigenous ancestors was, and still is, a huge insult (often ending up with one party dead).

How "based and redpilled" of them. They can be as traditional as they want in their own nations.

When you see indigenous or mixed native-Europeans from South America in the US it's because they have no other choice to earn a large amount of money other than emigrating.

It's impossible for them to fix their own countries? That's pretty cynical.

 

[ThatOneLurker]

I'll wait until election before I get totally despondent but holy fuck this thread is making me anxious. I can't stop pacing around my room.

 

[The Pink Panther]

Their platform is small government, self reliance, freedom of speech, religious values and low taxes

>Republicans
>accurately representing any of these things barring maybe religious values

A lolbert has been found in the distance. Tell me, Lolly The Lolbert, how's the lolbert invasion of the GOP going?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Might as well just keep this shit here so poor jannie doesn't have to break a sweat.


How "based and redpilled" of them. They can be as traditional as they want in their own nations.

It's impossible for them to fix their own countries? That's pretty cynical.

Look, I'm just telling you what I saw when I lived there. They're poor, they can't hold their liquor (because the indigenous people of the Americas lack a gene that allows their bodies to synthesize ethanol, something they have in common with their distant ancestors in East Asia), the streets are full of them begging in the streets, snatching purses, picking pockets and whatnot. We can discuss the disparities and social conditions of the indigenous natives of South America in another thread but if you think the average father from Europe was OK with having their sons or daughters marrying into this group you're delusional.

I personally don't have an issue with them. If they stay away from the drink they're very good workers. The South Americans that work for my landlord are all conservative; at least three became citizens and voted for Trump (they all hate Mexicans and Central Americans too lol).

Immigration in the US is broken and it needs a complete overhaul. Hispanics/Latinos are not going to vote for Biden en masse though.

 

[Forgetful Gynn]

I'll wait until election before I get totally despondent but holy fuck this thread is making me anxious. I can't stop pacing around my room.

Spoiler: I can exacerbate that.

We can discuss the disparities and social conditions of the indigenous natives of South America in another thread but if you think the average father from Europe was OK with having their sons or daughters marrying into this group you're delusional.

I don't recall denying that. I also don't want that sort of mixing.

I personally don't have an issue with them. If they stay away from the drink they're very good workers. The South Americans that work for my landlord are all conservative; at least three became citizens and voted for Trump (they all hate Mexicans and Central Americans too lol).

I don't have anything against them either. If anything I want them to stay in their own nations and fix them, because sending what few best and brightest they do produce to america is only going to make things worse for their homeland and ours.

Immigration in the US is broken and it needs a complete overhaul. Hispanics/Latinos are not going to vote for Biden en masse though.

They always have.