Disaster American Airlines Flight Collides With Blackhawk Helicopter Over DC - Several videos shared online showed footage of the collision and the aftermath of the crash.

An American Airlines passenger plane crashed into the Potomac River after colliding midair with a black hawk helicopter over Ronald Reagan International Airport in Washington, D.C., the Federal Aviation Administration announced Wednesday (January 29) via CNN.

Several videos shared online showed footage of the collision and the aftermath of the crash.



BREAKING: American Airlines Flight 5342 has collided with a UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport. The military aircraft, identified as PAT25, is believed to be a Priority Air Transport mission, typically designated for VIP transport operations.



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Security footage is not public property.
With 67 deaths in a public transportation disaster I think the public is entitled to that footage regardless of what bullshit red tape says. The nigger did the public a favor although he should have at least recorded horizontally and send it to a news organization that wouldn't drown it in watermarks like fucking CNN did
 
With 67 deaths in a public transportation disaster I think the public is entitled to that footage regardless of what bullshit red tape says. The nigger did the public a favor although he should have at least recorded horizontally and send it to a news organization that wouldn't drown it in watermarks like fucking CNN did
Then get it the right way, through a court order, or a polite letter, not smuggling it out the back door.
 
Then get it the right way, through a court order, or a polite letter, not smuggling it out the back door.
My personal opinion, which is worth nothing, is that something paid for with public funds should be available to the public. Immediately, if not sooner. In a situation like this, breaking the law in pursuit of a noble cause is perfectly acceptable.
 
That's the videos that show it basically flying straight into it. I'm honestly thinking this homeschool hysterical libshit bitch deliberately flew into the plane. Hence why authorities were so quick to clamp down on footage that would lend credence to such thought.
She flies straight into a path that is only used for landing planes and is also in constant use. And there happened to be a plane landing there right at that time. Meaning another plane might be taking off or landing near (or into) her helicopter in minutes depending on how busy that airport is and how many runways are available. It's an area that a helicopter should literally never be allowed to travel into. The most restricted airspace.

Her speed is also unusually fast for a situation in which we have her admittedly on audio saying she has no clear visual contact with air traffic around her. And instead of proceeding with caution she is at ramming speed at levels where initial observations had people claiming it was a deliberate suicide attack. In professional sports racing like Nascar or Indycar or whatever they throw out cautions where the drivers have to slow down or stop and they all have to slow down on pit road for safety reasons. This pilot actually accelerated into the most dangerous airspace imaginable instead of exercising caution.
 
Exactly. It only works if the national guard aren't putting witless speds into helicopters.
Since they are, it's flawed.
Aviation safety is full of checks, balances, and back-ups precisely because there is always some retard doing retarded shit: That's why, by and large, it stays safe.
So whilst this blind, dopey rugmuncher in comedy goggles was the main cause of the accident, I still want the fuckers who let her fly, on this route, without proper supervision, and without a functional TCAS, strung up by their balls.

But somehow, I don't think we're ever getting those names.
The Route itself was the problem. And there was functional TCAS. At least it was going off in the CRJ's cockpit. Too late to do anything. ATC was getting flashing red CA alarms. But years of deviant behavior of ignoring these alarms for these aporoachs and routes had normalized it.
 
This guy does very detailed ATC animations, this video is pretty good especially if you want to see a visualization of what happened after the crash.

 
Investigators Say Black Hawk Altitude Gauges May Have Been Inaccurate Prior to Deadly DC Airplane Collision
Military.com (archive.ph)
By Thomas Novelly
2025-02-14 13:48:35GMT
A three-person Army Black Hawk helicopter crew may not have received accurate altitude readings in their cockpit or an important transmission from air traffic control before the deadly crash with a passenger aircraft over Washington, D.C., late last month, according to investigators.

During a press conference Friday afternoon, National Transportation Safety Board Chair Jennifer Homendy told reporters the Black Hawk helicopter, which was on a training qualification flight, was at approximately 278 feet altitude at the time of the crash, but added that there's a possibility that the crew's instruments may have shown something different.

"We are looking at the possibility that there may be bad data. ... Were they seeing something different in the cockpit that differs from the [flight data record] data?" Homendy said. "It's possible, but we have a lot of work to do until we get to that."

The details are some of the first to be revealed by the National Transportation Safety Board since the crash between American Eagle Flight 5342, a Bombardier CRJ, and the Black Hawk helicopter from Bravo Company, 12th Aviation Battalion, out of Fort Belvoir, Virginia, on Jan. 29, which killed the three soldiers and all 64 aboard the airplane.

Capt. Rebecca Lobach, 28, of Durham, North Carolina; Chief Warrant Officer Andrew Eaves, 39, of Great Mills, Maryland; and Staff Sgt. Ryan O'Hara, 28, of Lilburn, Georgia, were all killed in the crash.

News about technical issues the flight crew may have encountered also stands in stark contrast to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and President Donald Trump's comments that the government's diversity, equity and inclusion policies were potentially connected to the crash -- which set off conspiracy theories online and led Lobach's family to delay releasing their child's name publicly amid fears of feeding the misinformation frenzy, Military.com previously reported.

"After privately grieving, the family recognized that waiting to release her name was feeding narratives that distracted from the incredible person and pilot that Rebecca was," a person familiar with the family's decision told Military.com following the crash.

Homendy told reporters about cockpit voice recorder data that detailed the potential discrepancies the pilots were experiencing.

"The pilot flying indicated they were at 300 feet. The instructor pilot indicated they were at 400 feet; neither pilot made a comment discussing an altitude discrepancy," Homendy said. "At this time, we don't know why there was a discrepancy between the two. That's something that the investigative team is analyzing."

Sean Payne, the branch chief of the NTSB's vehicle recorder division, told reporters the group was working to figure out what the Black Hawk helicopter's internal gauges read. which includes reaching out to the Army as well as Sikorsky Aircraft and Collins Aviation -- companies that build and manufacture components for the chopper.

"We are working to determine if this bad data for pressure altitude only affected the [flight data record], or if it was more pervasive throughout the helicopter's other systems. We will have an answer to what altitude the pilots saw in their gauges as they were flying," Payne said.

In addition to the potential issue with the gauges, the NTSB officials also detailed that a transmission from the air traffic control flight tower may not have been received by the crew just 17 seconds before the crash.

"A Radio transmission from the tower was audible on both [cockpit voice recorders] directing the Black Hawk to pass behind the CRJ," Homendy said. "[Cockpit Voice Recorder] data from the Black Hawk indicated that the portion of the transmission that stated 'pass behind the' may not have been received by the Black Hawk crew."

Homendy explained that the part of the transmission "was stepped on" by an eighth of a second mic key from the Black Hawk responding back to the tower.

The NTSB officials also told reporters that the crew was likely wearing night-vision goggles as part of the pilot's flight assessment. If the crew planned to remove them, they would have needed to discuss the decision, a conversation that was not heard on voice recording data.

"Had they been removed, the crew was required to have a discussion about going unaided. There is no evidence on the cockpit voice recorder, or CVR, of such a discussion," Homendy added.

A preliminary report into the crash by the NTSB is expected later this month, and a final, more exhaustive report could take anywhere from one to two years, according to the board's website.
NTSB Media Briefing 4 - PSA Airlines Bombardier CRJ700 & Sikorsky H-60 military helicopter collision
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbJVFLPcbGo (archive.ph)(PreserveTube)

NTSB B-Roll - Investigators search for the combined FDR & CVR of the Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=912G54UGwNM (archive.ph)(PreserveTube)

NTSB B-Roll - Sikorsky UH-60 Military Helicopter Recovery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWB7iVPQd0s (archive.ph)(PreserveTube)
 
I want there to be accountability for this, but I know how our bureaucratic state works and there won't be any. I've been trying to figure out when they put this fucking retarded helicopter route on the charts and best I can tell it was pre-9/11. I have some old charts around for different parts of the country but I've never flown in the DC area. The person who approved it is probably dead now anyway, but someone has been signing off on its existence every time an updated chart is issued.
 
NTSB released a preliminary report today. Holy Shit is it damning and terifying. I don't think we have ever seen the NTSB tear this hard into the FAA before.

An average of 1 near miss per week, for 12 years. The FAA has had the data for years and did nothing.

Youtuber Pilot Debrief has a great 1 hour breakdown of it. Showing the math of just how unsafe that approach to 33/helo route 4 was. Less than 75 feet of vertical separation between the 2 flightpaths. If perfectly flown.

I'm also seeing some reports that NTSB is saying ATC had a duty to act. This shit is terifying.
 
Maybe this deserves a new thread since this kind of incompetence is beyond the scope of this singular incident that has exited the minds of most people and suggests the FAA is allowing critically dangerous practices to occur that may need to be fixed before more disasters inevitably happen.

And who is in charge of overseeing all this? A dude from reality TV whose wife fucked a skeevy, punk rock dude named Puck. lol.
 
And who is in charge of overseeing all this? A dude from reality TV whose wife fucked a skeevy, punk rock dude named Puck. lol.
Didn't the new Transportation Sec go straight from being sworn into office to the crash site? The problem at the FAA isn't the political appointee's. It's the entrenched bureaucracy.
 
Permanent Restrictions Ordered for Helicopters Flying Near Reagan Airport
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Mark Walker and Niraj Chokshi
2025-03-11 23:16:54GMT
The Federal Aviation Administration will adopt two urgent recommendations issued by a federal safety board to reduce and reroute helicopter traffic around Ronald Reagan National Airport near Washington, D.C., after a midair crash of a passenger jet and an Army helicopter on Jan. 29 killed 67 people.

Sean Duffy, the U.S. transportation secretary, who oversees the F.A.A., announced the changes in a news conference on Tuesday. The recommendations included restricting a busy helicopter route running along the Potomac River that was used by the Army Black Hawk the night it collided with an American Airlines regional jet.

Mr. Duffy also said he spoke with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth earlier in the day about carving out an alternate route for military operations around the restricted air space at National Airport. There will be some exemptions for medical emergencies, law enforcement, and presidential and vice-presidential travel, Mr. Duffy said.

“We’re in a situation where we’re threading a needle allowing helicopters to fly down the same airspace as landing aircraft,” he said.

The announcement came hours after the National Transportation Safety Board made the recommendations, which were based in part on a review of data that found thousands of instances of airplanes and helicopters coming in close proximity of one another near the airport in recent years.

Jennifer Homendy, the board’s chairwoman, said at a news conference that the N.T.S.B. had also found that, from 2011 to 2024, an urgent airplane alert was triggered at least once a month, instructing pilots to take emergency action to avoid hitting nearby helicopters. Airline pilots are expected to follow the alerts, known as resolution advisories, over other commands, including air traffic control instructions.

In more than half those instances, which were documented in voluntary safety reports and F.A.A. data, the helicopter may have been flying above permitted altitudes for the route. Two out of three such collision threats took place at night.

Investigators have been trying to understand why the Black Hawk was flying above the maximum height for its route and how it ended up in the path of the passenger jet.

In response to the data review and other findings, the safety board recommended that the F.A.A. permanently ban helicopter traffic along much of a corridor known as Route 4 — which the Black Hawk was traveling on the night of the collision — when planes are using the airport’s Runway 33. A key section of the corridor runs between Hains Point of East Potomac Park and the Wilson Bridge near National Airport.

Airplane traffic on the runway accounts for less than 10 percent of departures and arrivals, so the helicopter closures would be limited, the N.T.S.B. said.

It also recommended that the F.A.A. designate an alternative helicopter route when that segment is closed to helicopter traffic.

“We’ve determined the existing separation distances between helicopter traffic operating on Route 4 and aircraft landing on Runway 33 are insufficient and pose an intolerable risk to aviation safety,” Ms. Homendy said in a news conference.

Mr. Duffy criticized past F.A.A. administrations for failing to identify the safety risk that helicopters pose to commercial planes landing at the National Airport despite access to years’ worth of available data highlighting the problem.

The N.T.S.B.’s recommendations reinforce recent calls from Congress and U.S. airlines for the F.A.A. to permanently restrict some helicopter traffic around National Airport.

In a statement, a group of families of some of the crash victims said they would push for lasting reforms.

“While the N.T.S.B.’s report sheds light on key factors of this event, it also reinforces what we, as the families of the victims, already suspected: Serious, systemic failures in air travel safety cost our loved ones their lives and continues to threaten public safety,” they said in the statement.

The recommendations were shared alongside a preliminary report prepared by N.T.S.B. crash investigators on their initial finding into the events that led to the plane crash, which was the deadliest in the United States since 2009 when a Colgan Air flight went down near Buffalo, N.Y., killing 50 people.
NTSB investigtion page:
https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Pages/DCA25MA108.aspx (archive.ph)
NTSB preliminary report:
https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Documents/DCA25MA108 Prelim.pdf (archive.org)
NTSB urgent recommendations report:
https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/AIR2501.pdf (archive.org)
 
Maybe this deserves a new thread since this kind of incompetence is beyond the scope of this singular incident that has exited the minds of most people and suggests the FAA is allowing critically dangerous practices to occur that may need to be fixed before more disasters inevitably happen.

And who is in charge of overseeing all this? A dude from reality TV whose wife fucked a skeevy, punk rock dude named Puck. lol.
This was specifically allowed to happen because enforcing better practices would have certainly resulted in heavy budget cuts by Congress.
 
Didn't the new Transportation Sec go straight from being sworn into office to the crash site? The problem at the FAA isn't the political appointee's. It's the entrenched bureaucracy.
I wasn’t blaming him for the issue, I was being snarky that the dude tasked with handling the fixing of all this shit came from fucking MTV as well as his wife and she had sex with the dude who was famous for picking his scabs then dIpping his fingers in the communal peanut butter.
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I wasn’t blaming him for the issue, I was being snarky that the dude tasked with handling the fixing of all this shit came from fucking MTV as well as his wife and she had sex with the dude who was famous for picking his scabs then dIpping his fingers in the communal peanut butter.
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Yeah, he’s from MTV. He’s still a decent head of department, Sean’s at least abandoned the Trashiness that rubs off a lot of MTV alumni.
 
It’s kind of early to rate his work as a head of transportation, it’s just funny because no one saw it coming.
There is dislike just because he’s a right-leaning cast member of the mtv factory. If someone like Coral Smith or Evelyn from the same spin offs got a job that big, they’d be in history books for going that high up from their tv days. Because it’s an icky white oppressive Christian, the insane reality tv stans are saying how it’s ridiculous.
 
I saw this pop up in my youtube feed today.


On March 28th two trainer jets decided to do an 800 feet fly over above DCA, causing a TCAS RA and ground hold of traffic at DCA.

AV Herald Article. (A)

Incident: Delta A319 at Washington on Mar 28th 2025, TCAS resolution on initial climb

A Delta Airlines Airbus A319-100, registration N342NB performing flight DL-2983 from Washington National,DC to Minneapolis,MN (USA), was in the initial climb through about 1300 feet out of DCA's runway 19 when tower handed the aircraft to departure, the crew read back, immediately afterwards tower attempted to contact DL-2983 again with no response. About 20 seconds after the hand off the crew reported on departure frequency, they just had had a TCAS resolution advisory for an aircraft 500 feet below them. The controller confirmed. The aircraft continued the climb and flight to Minneapolis for a safe landing without further incident.

The FAA reported: "Delta Air Lines Flight 2983 was cleared for takeoff at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport around 3:15 p.m. local time on Friday, March 28, while four U.S. Air Force T-38 Talons were inbound to Arlington National Cemetery for a flyover. The Delta aircraft received an onboard alert that another aircraft was nearby. Air traffic controllers issued corrective instructions to both aircraft. The FAA will investigate."

The formation was turning northbound along the Potomac's eastern bank.

According to ADS-B data the minimum separation reduced to 100 feet vertical and 0.7nm horizontal.

Map and trajectories (Graphics: AVH/Google Earth)
delta_a319_washington_250328_map.webp


Have they not learned anything?
 
Have they not learned anything?
Considering they had a fucking brawl in the tower that led to 3 supervisors being transferred the day after this and an arrest, that whole place sounds like a mess. Oh yeah then they had two planes clip each others wings as well, with congressmen aboard.
 
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