US Airlines want to roll back consumer protections — will your rights disappear? - Orange Man Bad


By Christopher Elliott
Published September 14, 2025

Imagine this: Your flight’s been delayed over and over. But when you ask a lone worker staffing the customer service counter for help, he just shrugs. There’s no meal voucher, no compensation — not even an apology. Just an indifferent employee telling you to deal with it.

Or how about this: You click on an airline website to buy a ticket and it lists a too-good-to-be-true round-trip fare of $29. But as you go through the booking process, the airline adds checked luggage charges, carry-on luggage fees, convenience charges, taxes, airport fees and fuel surcharges. Suddenly $29 is more like $290.

Sound far-fetched? It could be your reality sooner than you think.

The U.S. government just jettisoned a proposed rule that would have required airlines to pay passengers up to $775 for lengthy delays. Now, the airline industry wants to go further — much further. In a sweeping letter to the Department of Transportation, airline lobbyists have outlined their deregulatory wish list.

It reads like a passenger’s nightmare.

The airlines aren’t just asking for minor tweaks. They want to roll back mandatory refunds for canceled flights, a rule requiring “all-in” pricing and a requirement that families be seated together at no extra charge. If they get their way, flying could become a one-sided game where airlines hold all the cards.

The U.S. airline industry’s great deregulation push​

Before you get too excited, keep this in mind: The Department of Transportation (DOT), which regulates airlines, has promised to enforce all congressional consumer protection laws. (In Washington, Congress usually passes a law and then the DOT creates a rule, which it enforces.)

“The Department of Transportation rules that the airline lobbyists oppose include common-sense protections such as refund requirements, restrictions on junk fees, and guaranteed family seating,” says Tomasz Pawliszyn, CEO of AirHelp. “Fortunately for travelers, these protections are already firmly established, as the Department of Transportation rules closely align with the refund standards Congress passed in 2024.”

But Congress could easily get behind the airline industry’s extreme agenda. The political winds have shifted — and consumer protections could get blown away.

Currently, U.S. passengers have far fewer rights than their European counterparts. While EU travelers can claim up to $650 for delays over three hours, Americans get nothing for domestic delays, even when airlines are at fault.

The protections U.S. air travelers have are modest:
  • Automatic refunds for canceled flights or significant changes (if you choose not to travel).
  • Basic full-fare advertising requirements (airlines must include taxes and fees upfront).
  • Bare-bones accessibility (protections for disabled passengers).
  • Family seating guarantees (though implementation remains murky).

But even these minimal safeguards are under assault.

What airlines really want​

Airline lobbyists have outlined their agenda in detail. It’s not just about the compensation rule — that was just the opening salvo.

Here’s the airline industry’s battle plan:

☑ Eliminate automatic refund requirements for flight changes and cancellations.

☑ Scrap fee transparency rules that force disclosure of baggage and seat fees upfront.

☑ Remove some accessibility protections for passengers with disabilities.

☑ End enforcement of family seating requirements.

Airlines also want to weaken the regulatory framework by terminating a cooperation agreement with state attorneys general on airline passenger rights and imposing a two-year statute of limitations on DOT enforcement actions.

What will they replace it with? Nothing. Airlines want to decide where and when to compensate their passengers, if they do at all. But consumer advocates say that’s a bad idea.

“Carriers can’t be allowed to decide for themselves who and when to compensate,” warns Daria Volochniuk, chief operating officer at FlightRefunder. “Clear, universal rules are needed.”

Airlines claim flying will be a better experience when it’s deregulated. The question is, better for whom?

What about Europe?​

New research suggests American passengers are already getting shortchanged because of lax regulation. U.S. flights were almost three times more likely to have long delays compared to European departures in 2024, according to a recent study by AirHelp. Same-day cancellations were also more common in the States.

Pawliszyn, AirHelp’s CEO, says strong consumer regulations in Europe have directly led to a 5 percent reduction in delays. The cost of those protections? Between 60 cents and $1.20 cents per passenger.

Yes, one dollar.

U.S. airlines claim European-style compensation would raise fares and hurt competition. But Europe’s airline market remains fiercely competitive, with budget carriers thriving under the current compensation system.

What’s really at stake​

If the airlines succeed, they could turn back the clock to the early 2000s. Remember when you needed a calculator to figure out how much your airline ticket would cost? Remember when you had to fight for a refund when your airline canceled your flight — the airline always wanted to give you an expiring voucher? Remember when airlines intentionally separated passengers so they would pay extra to sit together, even if it was a family with young children?

“If regulations are removed, consumers will face many more surprise charges on travel purchases such as list prices for checked bags and seat assignments, and less protection against refundable purchases,” warns attorney Christopher Migliaccio, who frequently handles airline disputes for his clients.

Now what?​

What will actually happen? The U.S. government has shown it’s willing to roll back regulations across multiple industries.

My prediction: The airlines will get some of what they want, but not everything. The automatic refund rule will likely survive — it’s popular and has bipartisan support. But fee transparency requirements could disappear, and the European-style compensation rule is dead on arrival.

The bigger danger is Congress. If lawmakers embrace the industry’s deregulatory agenda wholesale, passenger rights could vanish faster than chicken entrees on a transcontinental flight.

The ultimate question isn’t whether airlines will roll back some protections — they will. It’s how far they’ll push before public outrage stops them.

“The airline industry is pulling off a heist in broad daylight,” says Andy Abramson, a frequent flier and communications consultant from Las Vegas. “We gave these airlines $54 billion in bailouts, and this is how they thank us?”

What will airlines think of next? Is it possible they will someday soon be allowed to quote a “zero” fare, then add luggage fees, taxes, fuel surcharges, seat assignments, and “convenience fees”? Or even take your money without operating a flight?

Don’t laugh. The industry’s 93-page wish list suggests they’re willing to test just how much passengers will tolerate. As I’ve learned in my decades of consumer advocacy, when it comes to exploiting passengers, you should never underestimate the airline industry’s creativity.

Their dream is our nightmare, and it’s boarding now at a gate near you.
 
Imagine this: Your flight’s been delayed over and over. But when you ask a lone worker staffing the customer service counter for help, he just shrugs. There’s no meal voucher, no compensation — not even an apology. Just an indifferent employee telling you to deal with it.

Or how about this: You click on an airline website to buy a ticket and it lists a too-good-to-be-true round-trip fare of $29. But as you go through the booking process, the airline adds checked luggage charges, carry-on luggage fees, convenience charges, taxes, airport fees and fuel surcharges. Suddenly $29 is more like $290.

Sound far-fetched? It could be your reality sooner than you think.

This is the default here in Brazil, and we have a very regulated air travel industry. It used to be a lot better, but then 2020 happened and fucked the prices. And then it got to this much worse point almost as soon as the old corrupt commie came in and started pushing massive government intervention on the airlines to deal with the aftershocks of Covid fucking the industry.

Niggers and faggots will argue endlessly about regulation and deregulation. Some will insist on central government planning and are usually commies, other have delusions of complete free market as anarchocaptalists who think people will play fair. The truth is it doesn't fucking matter. If the people involved are all corrupt no matter what you do the result will be trash.

Focusing on regulation vs. deregulation misses the point that companies are too big and too distant from customers to be held accountable and the people who do the regulating are retarded politicians who have no fucking idea what they are doing.
 
I fly a lot so I have some authority in this matter.

The rule Buttplug made has barely existed. The airlines handled refunds and compensation for delays just fine before the rule existed, and all the rule does is muck up the flexibility the airlines have to credit customers, add overhead, and ultimately make the price of flying go up for everyone.

Before the rule, airlines had, and always have had, an obligation to get you from A to B. That’s what your ticket is for and if they don’t do it, they have to refund you. So if your flight is delayed or cancelled, the airline has to give you the option to get on another flight, even if there is only a first class ticket on a competitor airline and the airline ends up losing money. That’s all part of the risk of doing business in this industry. They can offer other things instead if they are impacted and hope you can take it and go away: points, credits, discounted airfare, etc. And sometimes that might be a better choice than rebooking or standing by or whatever. Lots of people take those options.

Buttplug’s rule made it so that long delays or cancellations have to be refunded or trigger a rebook. There are no other options from a legal standpoint. That means no negotiating for points or other alternatives. This especially screws business travelers who are not paying for their tickets. They don’t see the refund, and the airline can now just book them on a cattle class economy bucket as a replacement.

This is not at all the same as with Europe where you (the traveler, NOT the business) get compensation in addition to your rebooked flight or refund when a big enough delay or cancellation occurs. The DOT simply put the airlines in a corner for how they could treat their customers, when they were already treating their customers reasonably well.
 
"End enforcement of family seating requirements" seems like that would be the benefit for the airlines as well as other passengers? It would be counterproductive to split up families and cause crying children between parents and other passengers. Cause more need for passenger movement and block isle mid flight for no benefit to the airline. I doubt more airlines would drop to doing that unless there ran by a idiot or Indian.
 
Bro I've been rerouted to an entirely different city for hours and hours and didn't get shit for it except having to run to catch the backup flight they put me on.
They also put my shit on the OTHER SIDE of security where I had to get checked again, and they decided to fucking hold me while they swabbed for explosive residue because I put lotion on 14 hours earlier.

TOTAL
AIRLINE
DEATH
 
"End enforcement of family seating requirements" seems like that would be the benefit for the airlines as well as other passengers? It would be counterproductive to split up families and cause crying children between parents and other passengers. Cause more need for passenger movement and block isle mid flight for no benefit to the airline. I doubt more airlines would drop to doing that unless there ran by a idiot or Indian.
Gate agents always tried to seat families together, but it wasn’t a guarantee. You can pay for advance seat selection. If you want to sit with your family, you should have to pay for it. You shouldn’t get special treatment just because you have a toddler or whatever.

People who buy the cheapest tickets and then complain about not being able to sit together, having no carry-on space, not getting any food, etc. emit nigger energy. The cheapest ticket gets you a place from A to B. That’s all it needs to do. Plenty of people don’t need the extra accommodations, and those that do need to pay up.
 
"End enforcement of family seating requirements" seems like that would be the benefit for the airlines as well as other passengers? It would be counterproductive to split up families and cause crying children between parents and other passengers. Cause more need for passenger movement and block isle mid flight for no benefit to the airline. I doubt more airlines would drop to doing that unless there ran by a idiot or Indian.
opportunity to sell you earplugs in a captured market
 
They also put my shit on the OTHER SIDE of security where I had to get checked again, and they decided to fucking hold me while they swabbed for explosive residue because I put lotion on 14 hours earlier.
That has nothing to do with the airlines. That’s CBP and TSA policy.
 
Their dream is our nightmare, and it’s boarding now at a gate near you.
Hyperbolic statements like this make me distrust the author entirely. Regulations must be analyzed in terms of their cost-benefit. There are instances where regulations seem excessive. I was watching a series on YouTube about people who catch predators, and they encountered legal trouble because, apparently, in California, you need a permit to film in certain places. This means they can't even catch pedophiles without paying for film insurance and obtaining a permit, which is absurd.

I was also reading about a pretty serious environmental issue concerning decommissioned oil rigs off the gulf coast. Companies are leaving oil rigs in the middle of the sea, and they are leaking oil all the time. The reason this occurs is because companies are not required to remove the rigs and often exploit bankruptcy laws to avoid paying for their removal after they have extracted all the oil. Clearly, we need regulations that hold these companies accountable, punishing those who neglect the environment and forcing them to clean their messes in the sea.

Of all these, I could see justification for removing "family seating requirements." Obviously, airplane seats are a scarce resource, and it is a bit onerous to assume airlines can do that for every family. The others seem shaky, like transparency rules, since there is evidence it lowers consumer prices in other industries such as healthcare.
 
Gate agents always tried to seat families together, but it wasn’t a guarantee. You can pay for advance seat selection. If you want to sit with your family, you should have to pay for it. You shouldn’t get special treatment just because you have a toddler or whatever.

People who buy the cheapest tickets and then complain about not being able to sit together, having no carry-on space, not getting any food, etc. emit nigger energy. The cheapest ticket gets you a place from A to B. That’s all it needs to do. Plenty of people don’t need the extra accommodations, and those that do need to pay up.
Are you advocating seating the toddler randomly unless the airline gets duked?
 
Are you advocating seating the toddler randomly unless the airline gets duked?
If you've booked an airline seat before, you reserve seats ahead of time. There are plenty families who book their seats correctly and sit together. That should be the default behavior. If such seats don't exist, you should book another flight or pay extra for the seat (if possible).
 
Or how about this: You click on an airline website to buy a ticket and it lists a too-good-to-be-true round-trip fare of $29. But as you go through the booking process, the airline adds checked luggage charges, carry-on luggage fees, convenience charges, taxes, airport fees and fuel surcharges. Suddenly $29 is more like $290.
but this is ALREADY how it is??? and the real issue is that they can just add these fees out of nowhere like 'ghost blowjob fee' and 'not crashing into the ocean fee' and nobody has thought to tell them to knock it off.
 
Are you advocating seating the toddler randomly unless the airline gets duked?
This is how the industry works: you can pay for a standard coach ticket and pick your seat, or you can pay for a cheaper ticket and have your seat assigned for you. The airlines market these tickets to solo travelers and adults looking for a cheaper option and make it explicitly clear that you don’t get to choose your seat and that you may not be able to sit with your companions. After booking the ticket, the receipt will show that your seat will be assigned at check-in.

At check-in (T-24), a computer algorithm picks your seat, and attempts to sit groups as close as possible to each other. Depending on how many people (a) reserved their seats and (b) checked in before you, and how full the flight is, you may end up not sitting with your companions.

The gate agent, less than hour before take off, then finalizes the seating chart. They upgrade anyone eligible, then they fill remaining seats with standbys. At this point, they start accommodating requests for sitting together. They are given a couple extra rows in the back to work with, and they try their best to arrange people in a limited time and without impacting anyone who reserved his seat in advance. (If you ever noticed someone getting on the plane very late, that’s likely a standby who was manually placed by the gate agent).

Seating is limited, so if you really need to sit next to someone (i.e. your child), pay for the reserved seats.
 
This is how the industry works: you can pay for a standard coach ticket and pick your seat, or you can pay for a cheaper ticket and have your seat assigned for you. The airlines market these tickets to solo travelers and adults looking for a cheaper option and make it explicitly clear that you don’t get to choose your seat and that you may not be able to sit with your companions. After booking the ticket, the receipt will show that your seat will be assigned at check-in.

At check-in (T-24), a computer algorithm picks your seat, and attempts to sit groups as close as possible to each other. Depending on how many people (a) reserved their seats and (b) checked in before you, and how full the flight is, you may end up not sitting with your companions.

The gate agent, less than hour before take off, then finalizes the seating chart. They upgrade anyone eligible, then they fill remaining seats with standbys. At this point, they start accommodating requests for sitting together. They are given a couple extra rows in the back to work with, and they try their best to arrange people in a limited time and without impacting anyone who reserved his seat in advance. (If you ever noticed someone getting on the plane very late, that’s likely a standby who was manually placed by the gate agent).

Seating is limited, so if you really need to sit next to someone (i.e. your child), pay for the reserved seats.
I've flown standby and had no idea the gate agents were actually the ones making the call before reading this.

Still, you'd hope the seating assignment algorithm would weight young ages super high. And if it doesn't, that's a regulation you can poke them with.
 
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