Addiction - drugs, booze, pills, whatever

[spurger king]

why put restrictions on them when it's the fault of the people for using them without self-control or moderation?

Drugs inherently compromise people's ability to control themselves. I'm a big fan of letting people make decisions for themselves, but selling meth or something is inherently harmful to society and shouldn't be allowed.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

One thing that annoys me is when somebody claims they have an addictive personality as if that is a real thing that stops them from being personally responsible for their actions.

 

[Homo Demens]

It's like blaming food for making Amberlynn fat. The more important question is why and how someone becomes an addict in the first place. Some of that shit is out of desperation (coping with an illness be it mental, etc.) while others do it cause they're fucking stupid.

 

[The Pink Panther]

"who is responsible, the drug addict with a brain, willpower, and agency, or the drugs, an inanimate pile of chemicals that cannot think or do anything"

Yeah, this is a Deep Thoughts thread all right.

It's a matter of perspective....

 

[Angel Dust]

Drinking (working on that)
Food (working on that)
Internet (not working on that)

 

[Childe]

I’ve got a wicked addiction to alcohol. Hopefully I don’t go full Amy Winehouse. I need to learn self-control and stop being a pussy.

 

[Stormy Daniel's Lawyer]

I stopped drinking alcohol 30 years ago after my first son was born. I stopped smoking cigarettes last year though I do vape..I had used various forms of tobacco for over 40 years. The drinking part was much easier than smoking..Vaping has saved my life because I had gotten up to 2 packs a day, and I had been a serial chain smoker for at least the last 5 years. I do smoke some weed on the rare occasion when my body is really hurting.

I have struggled with addictive shit, but I was forced to meet it head on due to some health reasons (nothing major) and I was blessed with my first grandchild. So far I'm winning the war..

For those of you who out there are struggling with whatever..I will keep you all in my thoughts..Stay strong and you will persevere.

 

[Catman from cat town]

Talking about who is responsible, the drug or the addict? I think about what I tell myself when I’ve lapsed on my sobriety. I don’t blame anything or anyone but myself because in the end, I chose to drink.

That being said, I don’t let myself feel ashamed after I blame myself, I take it as a learning experience by looking into what could have influenced me for the bad or for the good. I’ll talk with my therapist and some people close to me to get advice to try to prevent another lapse too.

This is my personal take, however, so I can’t speak for others.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

It's like blaming food for making Amberlynn fat. The more important question is why and how someone becomes an addict in the first place. Some of that shit is out of desperation (coping with an illness be it mental, etc.) while others do it cause they're fucking stupid.

Let's not compare food addiction to to drugs. It's easy to think it comes from the same type of thing but it doesn't. Obese binge eaters have a compulsive problem. Drug addicts in many cases had exposure to a certain kind of substance in their youths and became immersed in it. Even people who come from good families, have ''this'' and ''that'' going for them can go down the rabbit hole once they make the decision to start using. I used to think drug addicts had emotional or compulsive problems too, but I don't think this as much after coming across many cases where it's apparent that it's actually the other way around.

 

[Mrs Paul]

Food doesn't become a physical addiction like some drugs do, though. (Well, granted you need food to live, of course, but you don't need crack or booze to live -- quite the opposite)

And when people say "addictive personality", they generally mean that it's more emotional -- people glom onto drugs and shit to help them cope. A lot of times, it does tend to run in families.

 

[Buffy the SJW slayer]

I definitely think that addiction has a genetic component whether its something chemical or a type of anxiety/depression/OCD/self-destructiveness in someone's temperament or both. I once knew someone from a long line of alcoholics who never touched a drop of alcohol in his life. He didn't want to risk awakening whatever 'demon' or gene he may or may not have received from his family.

Let's not compare food addiction to to drugs. It's easy to think it comes from the same type of thing but it doesn't. Obese binge eaters have a compulsive problem. Drug addicts in many cases had exposure to a certain kind of substance in their youths and became immersed in it. Even people who come from good families, have ''this'' and ''that'' going for them can go down the rabbit hole once they make the decision to start using. I used to think drug addicts had emotional or compulsive problems too, but I don't think this as much after coming across many cases where it's apparent that it's actually the other way around.

I think food addiction can be valid if we are talking about McDonalds, Burger King, KFC and all the other processed foods. They are designed in labs and engineered to be addictive. I think the global obesity crisis (exclusively from fast foods rather than fruits or vegetables for example) attests to this.