About the ''covid denial mentality''

[FFinfo]

Why were we never locked down in 2009 with Swine Flu then?

Swine Flu started in Mexico under a democratic president. That's why we didn't lock down, lol. I don't personally know anyone that thinks COVID doesn't exist, but I know plenty that think it was never that big of a deal. And can you blame them? Speaking of Mexico, the US still refuses to take its border control measures seriously. What's the point in all the other bullshit about shutting down and masking up when undocumented people carrying who knows what can just waltz over anyway? There's only luck to blame for Swine Flu not becoming as bad a problem as Covid (and possibly Swine Flu naturally occurring and not being the subject of any lab shenanigans). Swine Flu is suspected to have infected something like a billion people and killed 250k. It's not like it just fizzled out after a week. It was all over the place, just coincidentally not as deadly as COVID apparently was: Partially because we already know the deal with influenza, even if a new strain pops up.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

COVID "denialism" would not even exist on the scale it does if governments across the world did not blatantly use it as an opportunity to take more power for themselves and to give more money to pharmaceutical companies. As @Osmosis Jones said, Justin Trudeau doesn't even believe his own rhetoric because he selectively wears a mask only to keep his appearances. He wanted to give himself broader taxation and budgetary powers without parliamentary oversight and now has one of the most opaque and corrupt governments in Canadian history despite campaigning on transparency. Similarly, the legacy media in the United States attempted to build cults of personality around disgraced former New York governor Andrew Cuomo (who killed thousands by send COVID patents to nursing homes to spite Trump) and Anthony Fauci, who repeated the same rhetoric because they loved the adulation the public gave them.

COVID is real, but the ones pushing the exhausted narrative are complete fakes. They should just shut up and accept that it is now endemic and going nowhere--and no, I'm not getting a booster shot that Trudeau proved is effectively useless, twice. Assuming that he caught COVID and is not using it as an excuse to hide from Parliament.

You don't think a Prime Minster would have access to a superior version of the vaccine and its boosters?

High officials get priority vaccines, priority medical treatment (when Trump got sick with it), you name it.

Edit: Trump got Covid from a rally while trying to prove it didn't really exist or was no biggie. He went maskless to prove he was a man of the people. And look what happened. 74 year years old at the time and clinically obese. He's one lucky duck he got the Cadillac of care.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

You don't think a Prime Minster would have access to a superior version of the vaccine and its boosters?

If a superior version of that vaccine really exist but on the other hand, Trudeau could have taked HCQ or Ivermectin aka horse dewormer under the table.

 

[Osmosis Jones]

You don't think a Prime Minster would have access to a superior version of the vaccine and its boosters?

High officials get priority vaccines, priority medical treatment (when Trump got sick with it), you name it.

This is so retarded that I would rather listen to and reason with someone who denies the pandemic in its entirety. Goodbye.

 

[Chilson]

It wasn’t the flu, it was a SARS virus and it’s killed millions

You do realize that anyone who simply had the virus, which was most people because it was basically the flu, and died were simply declared a covid death even if their actual cause of death was Cancer, car accidents and or a host of other causes that had nothing to do with Covid, right?

The numbers we saw were simply how many people died in general who had a positive test for covid, not actual covid deaths you moron.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

You don't think a Prime Minster would have access to a superior version of the vaccine and its boosters?

High officials get priority vaccines, priority medical treatment (when Trump got sick with it), you name it.

Edit: Trump got Covid from a rally while trying to prove it didn't really exist or was no biggie. He went maskless to prove he was a man of the people. And look what happened. 74 year years old at the time and clinically obese. He's one lucky duck he got the Cadillac of care.

It stands to reason that a superior version of the vaccine would have stopped an infection. Either the boosters are a dud or Trudeau is lying about his infection. Either way, it does not portray him in a positive light.

 

[Osmosis Jones]

You do realize that anyone who simply had the virus, which was most people because it was basically the flu, and died were simply declared a covid death even if their actual cause of death was Cancer, car accidents and or a host of other causes that had nothing to do with Covid, right?

The numbers we saw were simply how many people died in general, not actual covid deaths you moron.

And it's been openly stated by officials that they conflated death counts.

People have been brainwashed into thinking drawing their own conclusions is heresy. Just look at how OP flails and inserts imaginary factors to make up for inconsistencies. Someone give me fucking tophats I shouldn't be here.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

You do realize that anyone who simply had the virus, which was most people because it was basically the flu, and died were simply declared a covid death even if their actual cause of death was Cancer, car accidents and or a host of other causes that had nothing to do with Covid, right?

The numbers we saw were simply how many people died in general who had a positive test for covid, not actual covid deaths you moron.

Coronavirus is not Influenza.

 

[Fomo Hoire]

This is so retarded that I would rather listen to and reason with someone who denies the pandemic in its entirety. Goodbye.

It's almost nostalgic in a way.

Back in the day when big pharma was the bads, there was a theory out there that there exists a cure for AIDS and big pharma was just holding it back because they make more money giving you a cocktail for a lifetime than they do giving you an mind bogglingly expensive cure once.

Nevermind the fact that HIV mutates rapidly and big pharma would make even more money giving you an overpriced cure, waiting for you to inevitably get re-infected by a variant mutation, and charging you up the wazoo for another cure.

Now we're back to big pharma allegedly withholding superior treatments again. Can we come full circle to them being evil for them allegedly doing so?

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

Coronavirus is not Influenza.

And coronavirus is not the bubonic plague either.

 

[Osmosis Jones]

It's almost nostalgic in a way.

Back in the day when big pharma was the bads, there was a theory out there that there exists a cure for AIDS and big pharma was just holding it back because they make more money giving you a cocktail for a lifetime than they do giving you an mind bogglingly expensive cure once.

Nevermind the fact that HIV mutates rapidly and big pharma would make even more money giving you an overpriced cure, waiting for you to inevitably get re-infected by a variant mutation, and charging you up the wazoo for another cure.

Now we're back to big pharma allegedly withholding superior treatments again. Can we come full circle to them being evil for them allegedly doing so?

Big Pharma/Big Science is inherently evil and in many cases does not have your best interests in mind, especially when they're telling you just how oh so good X Y and Z are for you. One should start paying especially close attention when politicians use these claims to motivate an agenda. It never should have been a circle and everyone should always be skeptical to a healthy degree.

 

[Fomo Hoire]

And coronavirus is not the bubonic plague either.

Well yeah, they think carriers are worse than vermin.

 

[Sneed’s Fuck and Suck]

Why were we never locked down in 2009 with Swine Flu then?

Because your government and the people in it hate you and worship the devil.

 

[Fomo Hoire]

Big Pharma/Big Science is inherently evil and in many cases does not have your best interests in mind, especially when they're telling you just how oh so good X Y and Z are for you. One should start paying especially close attention when politicians use these claims to motivate an agenda. It never should have been a circle and everyone should always be skeptical to a healthy degree.
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Exactly why even when I thought the faggot was full of bullshit with his AIDS cure conspiracy theory, my skepticism wasn't that they wouldn't do such a thing. My skepticism was based on him being too retarded to understand what AIDS is or realize that big pharma can just charge him for the "cure" multiple times by waiting for him to inevitably reinfect himself.

He was underestimating their capacity for evil.

 

[Dysnomia]

uhh yeah most deaths were from people who were old or fat. Covid had a huge survival rate with 94 percent of the people who did die from it having multiple co-morbidities. In the beginning it looked like there needed to be some precautions taken but by the time of the st floyd riots it was pretty clear there was no reason to shut down the country and that the restrictions were arbitrarily enforced and whined about depending on the political bent of the people violating said restrictions. MAGA rally is a super spreader event, while 10,000 people packed in tight urban areas for Black Trans Lives Matter is just the summer of love.

covid was real for sure but it was never the black plague coof-o-caust the histronic fauci worshippers made it out to be unless you were of course fat or old.

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This whole thing about what was and wasn't politically correct to call a super spreader event cemented it to anyone with a brain that the air was not, in fact, poison.

So many people worse the masks pulled down below their noses. There were masks and rubber gloves discarded everywhere. People just tossed them in the street and threw them out of moving cars. If you were so afraid of Covid contamination why would you litter potentially contaminated PPE everywhere?

Now inflation is insane and everything feels so much worse. We should have just told the high risk to stay home instead of locking everybody down.

 

[Fentanyl Floyd]

It's a cold lol

 

[Osmosis Jones]

This whole thing about what was and wasn't politically correct to call a super spreader event cemented it to anyone with a brain that the air was not, in fact, poison.

So many people worse the masks pulled down below their noses. There were masks and rubber gloves discarded everywhere. People just tossed them in the street and threw them out of moving cars. If you were so afraid of Covid contamination why would you litter potentially contaminated PPE everywhere?

Now inflation is insane and everything feels so much worse. We should have just told the high risk to stay home instead of locking everybody down.

And yet when I try to explain to people that masks do virtually nothing unless kept perfectly sterile (don't touch it, put it on once and don't remove it, don't adjust it, throw it away and get a new one once you remove it, put on with clean hands and gloves only, sanitize regularly (like multiple times as you shop)) then it is actually probably worse for you as the wearer than not wearing one at all.

"Oh but it works if we both wear one"

Only under the circumstances I described. Cloth masks are not sterile. Medical masks are not reusable. N95 masks can't filter viruses, you need a P100 half-mask respirator at minimum to begin filtering out biohazards and viruses.

 

[Bum Driller]

If something, the COVID hysteria was a testament to the fact that most of the truly, obscenely rich people in this planet are very old.

 

[Fek]

Why were we never locked down in 2009 with Swine Flu then?

Congrats! You're asking one of the right questions, only I'd suggest a different side of it. Why didn't we lock down for those other big scary viral outbreaks like the swine or avian flu? Zika, even? Do you remember how people reacted to those situations? It was mostly "pfft, yeah, whatever..yet another virus, blablabla"..like complete indifference and apathy, mostly.

However, each time one of those "outbreaks" happened, the powers that be refined their methods. They figured out which scare tactics work and those which do not. They were very confident when it came time to scare people with the Wu Flu, and knew they could get the plebs to react exactly how they wanted: with fear. When people get afraid, they're far more apt to hand over whatever freedoms and autonomy they think (in their dough-brains) is "necessary" to get the boogeyman to go away.

If the created problem causes the desired reaction strongly enough, then you take advantage with a proposed (malicious) solution. It's the exact same playbook every. single. fucking. time. something happens that causes authoritarian change. Remember 9/11? Do you think removing your shoes and getting dosed with radiation over two decades later is "keeping us safe" somehow?

 

[Suburban Bastard]

You do realize that anyone who simply had the virus, which was most people because it was basically the flu, and died were simply declared a covid death even if their actual cause of death was Cancer, car accidents and or a host of other causes that had nothing to do with Covid, right?

The numbers we saw were simply how many people died in general who had a positive test for covid, not actual covid deaths you moron.

1. Disease deaths are historically undercounted
2. I have literal relatives who worked in the hospital and it was absolute insanity at multiple points, so flu my ass