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its rather telling they didn't really produce 4k monitors that go higher than 60fps until about 4 years ago. And in general despite a decade of it being the "norm" for tvs almost no one has 4k physical media and 4k streaming sucks shit.
Every bluray I've seen that prides itself on being 4K is actually just 1080p if you read the stats on the back. What's up with that?
 
Every bluray I've seen that prides itself on being 4K is actually just 1080p if you read the stats on the back. What's up with that?
Did it have two discs, one with the 4k video and one with 1080 and it had the specs for both? 4k blurays won't play on a standard bluray player. Basically the modern version of the bluray/dvd packs
 
As a man of God I only use 640x480, anything else is a creation of the devil ment to steal the souls of the innocent
 
Some things look like shit in 1080p and 1440p. Hand draw cartoons is one of them. It feels like that stuff was made for crappy 4:3 tubes in mind. I have a 4k Blu-ray of Aladdin and watching it in HD made the movie animation look worse.

I have a huge problem with crisp clean HD displays for this reason alone. Stuff like old pixel art games or other things that were CLEARLY developed amidst a landscape of scanlines and low resolution displays, and were created to exist as a work of art specifically through that landscape, just don't usually look as good in HD. Almost all of the old 16 bit home console and Neo Geo arcade games along with other media of the time like FMV or TV studio recordings look absolutely terrible scaled up into HD and with all of the the scanlines and visual noise gone from the equation.

People who weren't alive to see the art being displayed visually within the environment it was made for will never understand just how "at home" some things looked there and how much better that so called "low quality" actually was. Being as such a display is extremely hard to faithfully emulate and recreate with things like artificial filters etc., they likely never will. Playing something like Sega Genesis on a natural old tech CRT is an infinitely better experience than playing it on a modern display, but it's somehow so much more than that. It is a difficult thing to describe, but it's there.
 
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Display type matters a lot, a good 1080p plasma will still look better than many 4K mid to low range you can buy now. Right now, OLEDs are the best for picture quality, however, in terms of pc monitors you want to avoid them if you mostly do office work, so not always clean cut.

In terms of PC gaming, it really depends on what you put value on; frame rate, resolution or saving power/money. 4k does look better than lower res, but is it worth it to you personally with the trade-offs?

When it comes to 4k streaming, it is better than 1080p streaming, but that has more to do with how awful 1080p bitrates are for places like netflix. The reality is, Blu-ray movies (not 4k Blu-ray) have a higher bitrate than any streaming service has for 4k videos, and only Apple can come close to it, with 30Mbps content. But this is all streamers being cheap and cutting costs.

4K Blu-ray discs are a good step up on Blu-ray. However, a lot of it has to do with HDR rather than just pure resolution. The reality is, most movies for the past 20+ years have been mastered at 2k, and most cgi work was also done at 2k res, so only so much you can do to make the footage look better, if you don't go the very expensive route of rebuilding the film from the raw footage. Now an older movie shot and edited on film, and given a good remaster, it will look miles better than the old Blu-ray. But on the same note, lot of Blu-Rays still look really good, and so got to ask yourself if the upgrade worth it.

I won't say 4k is as big leap over 1080p, them 1080p was over 720. But as long as display is an improvement over what ever 1080p screen you have, you should see the difference.

But got to say no idea what the OP is going on about text, on system level very easy to change that, and personally never had a issue reading in game text at 4k anyway.

Every bluray I've seen that prides itself on being 4K is actually just 1080p if you read the stats on the back. What's up with that?
That's because those are blu rays that can only do 1080p, rather than 4k blu rays which is a different format. Just lot of masters are done at 4k or higher resolutions because it will create a better picture even when you downscaled it for the 1080p blu ray. Same thing on 4k blu rays, where some movies are mastered at 6k or 8k.
 
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Being as such a display is extremely hard to faithfully emulate and recreate with things like artificial filters etc., they likely never will.
wasn't there an emulator around where you could literally select the shadow mask to emulate?
either way with the hype retro has right now and the legit autism that's part of it, it's only just a matter of time.

have a 4k Blu-ray of Aladdin and watching it in HD made the movie animation look worse.
sometimes smart-tv effects or interpolation etc. interfere as well, it usually works fine in most stuff, but animation/animu is where it breaks. ironically it's far cheaper to make that look good compared to live action if you'd want to.
 
I just like high resolutions bro. I keep the text pretty small still. My laptop, tablet and TV are all 4K.
 
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Imagine not enjoying everything in at least 1440p with HDR and at least 90Hz. OP is probably a stinking Gnu+Linux desktop looser because it's the only OS that can't do UI scaling for shit. I bet he has blurry as shit freetype fonts
 
Imagine using 1080p instead of glorious 720p (like a Steam Deck).

But really, I need to learn how to make my shit scale properly on multiple resolutions and mobile. 720p to 4K display is just a matter of using relative units and doing some tweaking. It's the small mobile screens, portrait mode, and other quirks that are the pain in the ass for me.
 
I used 1080p for like a decade. Finally decided to upgrade to 2k at 165, I'll probably stick with this for another decade when 4k 120-165 monitors come down in price dramatically. My approach to technology has always been, 'what's the best value I can get for my money' and 'how much computer resources do I really need given my use case', so you end up with a slightly above average rig that doesn't break the bank.

With regards to monitors, the shift from 1080p60 to 2k@165 was a dramatic one for me in terms of quality of life features; I don't regret upgrading at all. I imagine the shift to 4k at 120+ will be equally dramatic but that's a long ways away. I can't justify buying a 4k monitor yet.
 
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