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2026 Belfast Riots - Will one Sudanese manage to unite Billy and Mickey?
Not that I believe American media would cover it however… it does seem to have mostly? Calmed for now.
I’m sure it will pick back up but sadly my expectations have been tempered now. Almost seemed like a real happening but likely will pick up and wane a few times.
Though perhaps if there is another major happening between a migrant and native in a few days or week maybe circumstances will be emboldened.
A knife is no joke, all they have to do is extend their arm with the pointy end and its gonna hurt. Trading punches for slashes is not a good plan. Maybe the bystanders couldve done something but if they fucked up their chance then they would've gotten slashed too, its better to have an equalizer and not need it than to need it and not have it.
This whole thing has me wondering a bit. About a year or two ago, I was reminded of the UK poll tax riots. I remember watching those and recalling them as absolutely fucking viscous, with what looked to be half the country going berserk in the streets. It was the first and pretty much only white riot I can recall and left a clear impression.
Like I said, I was reminded a while back and looked it up on Wikipedia. I'm sitting there reading it and I guess young me was just easily impressed, as wiki made it sound like 500 people showed and all got the beating and thrown in prison for pretty much forever.
Big time cognitive dissonance thing, I guess. haha
Yes, but the poll tax ultimately was repealled. It certainly had an impact.
In my living memories, the miners strikes certainly made Thatcher sit up and listen, even if the final result was that the miners lost.
The battle of Orgreave was a significant white riot too, Thatcher had to basically turn the Bristol and Avon police force into a strikebreaking paramilitary group.
Maybe this will all fizzle to nothing, but tying the poll tax riots to the current situation, the poll tax was not introduced to Northern Ireland specifically because the government did not want the two communities of Northern Ireland and Mainland Britain to be united in that cause against them.
Nothing is going to happen at the end of the day. They will just decide that they will VOOTE harder next time, when the demographic war has already been lost. Over half of the under 18 year olds have "migration background" and most whites are 50+. When they start dying out, the shift will be massive and sudden. You can not remove tens of millions of foreigners who are already citizens out of EU counties without Stalin tier methods. You simply cant. There is no VOOOTING your way out of this, especially when the public discourse and political policymaking is barely even realizing that there is a problem and what they are currenntly considering is only SLOWING down immigration. There is no time, nor will to act. The truth is simply out of the overton window and cannot be acted on, so all sides are coping with stupid shit. The far right nationalists are just as hopelessly stupid and copium addicted as the zestiest liberal when they sperg about muh uprising, muh race wall. Wake up son, even if literally ALL the natives would rise up TOMORROW against the government as one it would be iffy, and most of them would never, they are leftists and soys and other assorted lemmings who don't want to make a fuss and pretend everything is right. Of course, I know the response, you will seethe how this is just a "blackpill" and the based huwite fashy uprsiing will TOTALLY happen this time, just like how brexit fixed everything a decade ago.
The goal of a protest is not to make the treasonous politicians who caused this go "Oh, I see you've made a very big protest about this issue! Very well then, we'll do what you want!".
The goal is to force their hand, take away their power, and eventually to replace them all together.
I'll illustrate this by going over a very bad example of an ineffective protest: The recent Minnesota ICE riots.
Why was this protest a complete dud that accomplished absolutely nothing?
ICE is a federal agency, they are headquartered in D.C, in Virginia, over 1000 miles away from Minnesota, and were not even remotely threatened by this.
The police, the governor, and everyone in Minnesota except maybe a handful of chuds supported the protest, they had nothing to target.
They had no plan of action whatsoever, other than go outside and chant "ICE OUT ICE OUT" which maybe produces good vibes, but accomplished nothing.
All the immigrants they supposedly saved from being deported, ICE could just come back a couple of weeks later when everyone's zeal has died down.
Wrong place, wrong time, wrong people, wrong everything, that's why it was nothing but a legion of retards tiring themselves out in the street. ICE was not impacted at all by any of this.
In order for a protest to be effective, you need organization, you need to go after the power directly, or go after their money. Cities have a limited budget, and they can only contain the protest for so long before they have to draw resources from other areas. The reason why Trudeau was so desperate to shut down the truck protest in 2022 is because they were about to start running out of funds, they successfully targeted the government right in the wallet (Even though it was thwarted eventually).
Targets are government and law enforcement installations. Example: A police car can cost upwards of $100k, if you can torch one, not only will they be short one cruiser for a while, they will have to replace it, which will cost them. Government offices have a lot of overhead, if your protest blockades one for a week and keeps employees from getting to work, you'll not only cost them hundreds of thousands, but you'll accelerate their own bureaucracy.
Direct action: Taking what you want directly, example: In London, they have this insane scheme where there's a camera every block that scans your license plate and charges you like £15 if you drive past them. True patriots have taken it upon themselves to go out at night with angle grinders and cut them down. Angle grinders are very cheap compared to what it costs to replace one of these, and it will be non-operational until it's fixed.
Terrorist tactics (bombing a government office, killing people) aren't acceptable, Everything you do has to be non-lethal, and geared towards direct action, or causing financial damage
A lot of you are saying this protest won't accomplish anything, but they're doing everything right, they're targeting the city's infrastructure (buses are expensive and difficult to replace) and migrant housing directly. The city is anticipating more unrest, and they can only afford so much chaos.
It's funny seeing the police and leftoids out with their stab proof vests when the people they want to stop have either hurleys or guns
They bought into their own bullshit that inanimate knives themselves were the source of crime
Not everyone involved in this is Irish btw. Keep seeing people say that in the thread. This is in Northern Ireland, which is part of the United Kingdom, not the republic of Ireland. Not everyone rioting refers to themselves as Irish or Catholic. Belfast is not just Irish people.
The issue the American right has is one of abstract identity competing with other abstract identities.
"American" is simultaneously a broad geographic descriptor (North America/Americas) alongside a civic identity that is struggling to be a purely nationalistic identity considering the breadth and depth of all the eclectic peoples it counts amongst its number. Trying to chuck another one on top of that doesn't do any good, especially since a lot of the identities that try to bridge the gap between Europe and America are contentious.
"We're all white, let's connect based on that." -> "Okay, but Italians aren't white, are they?"/"Slavs aren't white."/"Only Germanics count." and so on.
"A shared Christian identity! How about that?" -> "Catholism is the only acceptable branch."/"The pope is illegitimate and a cuck—Sedevacantism or Protestant only."/"Eastern Orthodox is trad and based."
"Okay—European heritage! We all got that right?" -> "Americans are mutts and they have niggers."/"We're the best of European stock, all that's left are the weak."
The Leftists even tried this with the whole worker solidarity stuff but nation always triumphs over abstraction and the microinstant Leftists ought to show "empathy" to their brethren abroad, they can't help but insult Americans as a whole even though their whole schtick is the belief all bad decisions are due to the manipulations and control of society by a vague elite class (billionaires, politicians, billionaire-politicians)
Now, subscribing to an "idea" isn't a weak premise. It did the Romans alright for many centuries and it's from Rome that America took a lot of aesthetic inspiration. It became harder for people to see themselves as "Roman" when they identified more with the people in their immediate surroundings than someone who may as well be the world away. Even today there's a cultural throughline between the North and South in the USA and it's just one of many.
The American right-wing already has a brotherly connection though, and one it can't get rid of to supplant with a European connection, This is because the American identityis that brotherhood. It's what allows an Arizonan to see a Floridian as a member of the same "tribe" despite the 2000 miles of distance between them and potential cultural differences, the idea of America is the shared glue that keeps them all together. For reference, Britain is only 21 miles from France—Dover to Calais—and the two nations have/had a rivalry that persisted for 500 years. It can't be overstated how impressive it is that 2000 miles is not enough to disrupt that shared sense of identity.
To try and burden the consciousness with another identity tends to result in things becoming muddy. Such identities are meant to be your grounding force, your core, and when you're too densely packs with cores, damage to one can in turn rattle and damage the rest and one will ultimately triumph.
You can also end up resembling something like the Demon Core—all these identities becoming melted together into one, ultimately unrecognisable and meaningless mass that just irradiates everything around it e.g. Black Israelites, Groypers, BAPtists, Progressives, Anarcho Communists, etc.
The easiest way to foment brotherhood between the American and European right is in plain sight.
The same mutual love the Arizonan and Floridian have for America can be understood to Americans as Europeans love for their own country, and vice versa.
It doesn't mandate adherence to some shared, cross-Atlantic identity, or subscribing to a new ideology.
I love my country, you love your country—and as gay as it sounds—that love we feel is also what we have in common, and that understanding is enough in of itself.
It also gives us the same exact, universal enemy: "People who wish to do harm to my country."
These can be the exact same people, or they might differ, but knowing I love my country and don't want to see harm come to it, I can empathise with the American who loves their country and wants the same, which means I can also hate his enemies too because understanding his love also means I can understand why he hates too.
TLDR: The American right and European right speak different languages and hold different views of the same concepts. Understanding is a necessity of Brotherhood.
We can both understand the same basic premise of, "I love my people and country." Since we have that in common, we can understand each other on that level.
Whilst our enemies might not all have the same name, the premise there is also identical: People who wish to do harm to my country and its people.
On that basis alone, any American who loves their country, hates those who wish to harm it, and doesn't wish to harm my country, is already an ally.
TLDRTLDR: The American-European Brotherhood can be built on the basis of loving our own countries, because we can understand that love. A Bloverhood.
I will say the set fires of migrant houses are both extremely dangerous and disturbing (and for those with occupants, inexcusable), especially as a form of spontaneous action. Also shoddy business trying to justify riotous action generally, just how the black community had enough in the LA Riots, there is such a thing as an injustice too far that sparks repressed anger at the system. That’s basically what’s been happening in NI since 1969 when the Loyalists tried to stamp out Catholic civil rights
I’m sure some NGO somewhere will do it. Normies are already all over this saying how sad and tragic it is. That said, the ‘guy’ I was referring was the guy who got stabbed. The real tragedy is he’s going to be memoryholed.
Nothing is going to happen at the end of the day. They will just decide that they will VOOTE harder next time, when the demographic war has already been lost. Over half of the under 18 year olds have "migration background" and most whites are 50+. When they start dying out, the shift will be massive and sudden. You can not remove tens of millions of foreigners who are already citizens out of EU counties without Stalin tier methods. You simply cant. There is no VOOOTING your way out of this, especially when the public discourse and political policymaking is barely even realizing that there is a problem and what they are currenntly considering is only SLOWING down immigration. There is no time, nor will to act. The truth is simply out of the overton window and cannot be acted on, so all sides are coping with stupid shit. The far right nationalists are just as hopelessly stupid and copium addicted as the zestiest liberal when they sperg about muh uprising, muh race wall. Wake up son, even if literally ALL the natives would rise up TOMORROW against the government as one it would be iffy, and most of them would never, they are leftists and soys and other assorted lemmings who don't want to make a fuss and pretend everything is right. Of course, I know the response, you will seethe how this is just a "blackpill" and the based huwite fashy uprsiing will TOTALLY happen this time, just like how brexit fixed everything a decade ago.
Brexit obviously fixed fuck all and made things worse, but it clearly was not what the elites wanted.
If for no other reason than the City of London was hit hard by the loss of preferential access to European markets and being basically the Wall Street of the EU.
Personally that was my main argument against it, among many others, but it just got met with "Take back control" and "our laws", and "We hold all the cards", or other such nonsense.
It was as delusional as the Jocks still are about their Oil Reserves and how they think that somehow they propped up the UK economy despite being a sparcely populated wilderness with massive social problems and the worst standards of living in the country.
Not to mention the fact they all lumber around pissed up on Tennants Super and Lidl scotch whisky (flavoured spirit drink, legally not whisky and barely fit for human consumption).
Anyway, digressive ranting aside, whatever the outcome, I hope that a fear of something like the troubles returning makes the elite sit up.
They were highly organized. They had local government officials organizing "protests" in their Signal group chats, had access to license plate readers and ID scanners, and had checkpoints and roaming patrols around the city.
The problem is that they're just as retarded as they're organized and ended up attacking random people for being slightly fit and well groomed and a couple of them ended up getting shot in the face for being nigger commies.
They expect every "protest" that they do now to turn into nigger Floyd riots.
Compared to 10 years ago there's a whole lot less of them and the riot sizes dropped dramatically when Trump started to go after student visas of all the University Palestine Action homos. Less violent sand niggers and Euro commies running around in the US. Gutting USAID helped a lot too. A lot of things that were unstoppable forces are just boomer social events now.
Nothing is going to happen at the end of the day. They will just decide that they will VOOTE harder next time, when the demographic war has already been lost
The thing about groups that don’t integrate is that they are groups that don’t integrate. And if you make them uncomfortable enough they leave.
“ahhh the brown people are going to outbreed us” and it’s just the government importing third world breeding levels and no integration pressure that put you at 12% brown now and 200% brown in a hundred years. Meanwhile if you cut gibs 90% of them would take their spawn and leave.
This isn’t a conquistador situation where the tribals are getting literally bred by foreigners to create a mutt race equally tied to both civilizations. It’s some guy going “hey can I bring my wife and her 7 kids over” and the government goes “yeah sure”
The man who was repeatedly stabbed in a sickening, caught-on-camera attack that sparked riots in Northern Ireland lost his left eye in the near-beheading – as the Sudanese suspect was identified for the first time as he appeared in court Wednesday.
Stephen Ogilvie, thought to be 44, suffered injuries to both eyes after Sudanese migrant Hadi Alodid, 30, allegedly tried to behead him late Monday night, the Sun reported.
Barbaric video footage showed Ogilvie being pinned under the knifeman — with a horrified witness heard crying, “He’s trying to cut his head off. He’s slicing his head off.”...
That's what I meant when it got derailed into stupid, useless larping. The situation was already so bad ten years ago, that people chose to pretend everything is fine and they are winning bigly rather than actually do something about it.,
The local elite maybe, but chances are they will just double down on it and nothing will actually happen. Real change would be too large, too decisive and too scary of a step to take for the average normie, they will never actually cross this Rubicon of opinions. Besides, the goal of the global elite has been achieved, the great replacement happened, they have won. Worst case they have to engage in some local riot control in slowly collapsing western countries for a while.
Oh yeah, sure, tens of millions of conquerors will just go "aww shucks" and go home, abandoning their easy lives on the dole of the natives. Very realistic.
The man who was repeatedly stabbed in a sickening, caught-on-camera attack that sparked riots in Northern Ireland lost his left eye in the near-beheading – as the Sudanese suspect was identified for the first time as he appeared in court Wednesday.
Stephen Ogilvie, thought to be 44, suffered injuries to both eyes after Sudanese migrant Hadi Alodid, 30, allegedly tried to behead him late Monday night, the Sun reported.
Barbaric video footage showed Ogilvie being pinned under the knifeman — with a horrified witness heard crying, “He’s trying to cut his head off. He’s slicing his head off.”...
They were highly organized. They had local government officials organizing "protests" in their Signal group chats, had access to license plate readers and ID scanners, and had checkpoints and roaming patrols around the city.
The problem is that they're just as retarded as they're organized and ended up attacking random people for being slightly fit and well groomed and a couple of them ended up getting shot in the face for being nigger commies.
They expect every "protest" that they do now to turn into nigger Floyd riots.
Compared to 10 years ago there's a whole lot less of them and the riot sized dropped dramatically when Trump started to go after student visas of all the University Palestine Action homos. Less violent sand niggers and Euro commies running around in the US. Gutting USAID helped a lot too. A lot of things that were unstoppable forces are just boomer social events now.
More like Daredevil, just deaf instead of blind. He'd be able to spot a charcoal-black nigger even in total darkness with his single eye.
"I could feel the robbing intent with my very skin"