Science 20 New Moons Found Around Saturn, Snagging Satellite Record from Jupiter

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Saturn has overtaken Jupiter as the solar system's satellite king.

Astronomers just discovered 20 previously unknown Saturn moons, boosting the ringed planet's tally of known satellites to 82 — three more than Jupiter. And there's more exciting news: You can help name these newfound objects.

All 20 moons are tiny, measuring about 3 miles (5 kilometers) across. Seventeen of them have retrograde orbits, meaning they move around Saturn in the opposite direction to the planet's rotation. These 17 all take more than three Earth years to complete one Saturn lap, and the most far-flung one is the most distant Saturn satellite known, discovery team members said.

Related: Photos: The Rings and Moons of Saturn

The discovery images for the newly found very distant prograde moon of Saturn. They were taken on the Subaru telescope with about one hour between each image. The background stars and galaxies do not move, while the newly discovered Saturnian moon, highlighted with an orange bar, shows motion between the two images.
The discovery images for the newly found very distant prograde moon of Saturn. They were taken on the Subaru telescope with about one hour between each image. The background stars and galaxies do not move, while the newly discovered Saturnian moon, highlighted with an orange bar, shows motion between the two images.

One of the three newly discovered "prograde" moons has an orbital period of more than three Earth years, while the other two complete one lap every two years or so.

The 17 retrograde moons appear to belong to the "Norse group" of Saturn satellites, which share the same basic orbital parameters. The two innermost prograde objects align with the "Inuit group," and the outermost prograde moon among the new finds may belong to the "Gallic group," but that's unclear at the moment, researchers said.

Each of these satellite groups is likely evidence of a long-ago impact that destroyed a larger moon that had been orbiting in that general area.

"This kind of grouping of outer moons is also seen around Jupiter, indicating violent collisions occurred between moons in the Saturnian system or with outside objects such as passing asteroids or comets," Scott Sheppard, of the Carnegie Institution for Science in Washington, D.C., said in a statement today (Oct. 7) announcing the discovery.

Sheppard led the discovery team. He and his colleagues — David Jewitt of the University of California, Los Angeles, and Jan Kleyna of the University of Hawaii — found the Saturn moons using the Subaru Telescope in Hawaii.

"Using some of the largest telescopes in the world, we are now completing the inventory of small moons around the giant planets," Sheppard added. "They play a crucial role in helping us determine how our solar system's planets formed and evolved."

For example, the newfound moons' existence suggests that the impacts that created them occurred after Saturn was fully formed, Sheppard said. The gas giant was surrounded by a disk of dust and gas as it was taking shape. If these tiny moons had to plow through all that material on their way around Saturn, friction would have sapped their speed and sent them spiraling into the planet.

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Sheppard discovered a dozen Jupiter moons last year, and the Carnegie Institution organized a public contest to name five of those worlds. If you missed that competition, don't worry: You now have another chance.

"I was so thrilled with the amount of public engagement over the Jupiter moon-naming contest that we've decided to do another one to name these newly discovered Saturnian moons," Sheppard said. "This time, the moons must be named after giants from Norse, Gallic or Inuit mythology."

All 20 newfound Saturn moons are fair game for naming. If you're interested, submit your proposal by tweeting @SaturnLunacy from now until Dec. 6. Include your reasoning and the hashtag #NameSaturnsMoons.

"Photos, artwork and videos are strongly encouraged," organizers wrote on naming-contest page here, which has lots more information.

Visit Carnegie Science's Saturn Moon Name Contest page for more contest details.
 
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so are we all gonna vote to name the moon Joshua Conner Moon?
Just "Josh" might be subtle enough to catch thousands of votes from other people while also slipping under the 'problematic' radar.
 
5 kilometers across? how big does something have to be to be considered a moon? If we want to have a most moons fight between Jupiter and Saturn we can get really pedantic and go down to moonlets and debris and say that each planet has millions of moons.
 
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5 kilometers across? how big does something have to be to be considered a moon? If we want to have a most moons fight between Jupiter and Saturn we can get really pedantic and go down to moonlets and debris and say that each planet has millions of moons.
They've never bothered to set a definition for that. Maybe they're still freaked out over getting death threats from taking away Pluto's status.
 
Earth probably has more "moons" if you count the Moon, the ISS, every active spy, GPS, and communication satellite, the Hubble Telescope, dead satellites, spent rocket stages, dead frozen dogs and chimps in spherical trash cans, loose nuts and bolts and an even astronaut's lost glove that are currently in stable orbit around us.
 
They actually will smell like shit since they have lots of hydrogen sulfide (aka rotten eggs) in their atmosphere. Fortunately, if you try and smell it you'll freeze to death in seconds if you don't asphyxiate first.
Also if neither of those happened for some reason you'd die anyway because hydrogen sulfide is poisonous to humans.
 
"This time, the moons must be named after giants from Norse, Gallic or Inuit mythology."
Cool, I'm going with Obelix.

I don't remember where but I can't find anything about it, weird. Anyway it's always good to get misconceptions cleared up.
There was a hypothesis where Pluto was supposed to be a moon of Neptune lost somewhere along the way. But it's outdated I think, now everyone believes Pluto is just another overgrown Kuiper Belt iceball.

5 kilometers across? how big does something have to be to be considered a moon? If we want to have a most moons fight between Jupiter and Saturn we can get really pedantic and go down to moonlets and debris and say that each planet has millions of moons.
You're on to something here. Sheppard is a specialist in discovering these tiny moons, he's got literally dozens to his name and they're all estimated to be a few kilometers across. Earth-based telescopes probably can't pick up anything smaller out there. However, there's this thing called S/2009 S1 that's 300 meters across and was discovered by Cassini. I don't know if it officially counts as a moon or not, Wikipedia list is as one at least, and so does the fact sheet at NASA. Either way it's a propeller moonlet, a type of rock floating inside Saturn's rings that can only be found because they distort their shape locally. Astronomers are estimating that there can be thousands of such propeller moonlets, so if they ever send a probe to count them all, either there will be a redefiniton of the term "moon" happening, or everyone is going to bitch and moan about the fact that Saturn now has 10.000 moons or so.

Edit: Oh, and I guess some of these "rocks" can be just big chunks of water ice.
 
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Isn't Pluto considered Neptune's moon? Or it was going to become Uranus' moon in a couple hundred years. I forget the details but hopefully one day we just nuke it into dust so we can stop worrying about classifying it.
You might be thinking of the idea that Pluto might be Neptune's old moon as an explanation for why it's so weird.
 
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