1990s Political Correctness

I was only a kid in the 90's and although I would occasionally listen to classic Stern, I don't remember any specific groups hating him
Sorry for the belated reply, but I specifically remember Asian and Latino groups getting pissed off at Stern for things he said on his radio show over the years.

The Latino groups got really pissed off at Stern because he said Selena's music sucked. When she was killed, he played some of her music and added gun shot sound effects during the songs. Obviously, they weren't happy about this.

I can't remember what he did to the Asians at the moment, but he said some things that bothered them over the years.
 
The Latino groups got really pissed off at Stern because he said Selena's music sucked. When she was killed, he played some of her music and added gun shot sound effects during the songs. Obviously, they weren't happy about this.
Now that you mention it, I vaguely remember that. My memory of Howard in the news in the 90's was always various figures bitching about him being rude and a bad influence in general. I had older relatives that listened to him and I'd occasionally watch the old E! show, but it wasn't until right around the turn of the new millennium that I listened to him. I liked the early Sirius stuff with Artie, but a lot of it is so unbearable and cringe now.
 
I'd occasionally watch the old E! show
That's when I first really got into Stern. I remember laughing so hard I couldn't breath when Nancy Martling and her shitty folk band played that hippie folk song for Gary the Retard's birthday, interspersed with clips of Gary being a retard. There really was nothing like that on TV back then, or since for that matter.

Once I started really getting into the E show, I found out what radio station he was on locally, and have been a big fan ever since. That was such an awesome time for radio entertainment. Between two radio stations, I had Stern, Phil Hendrie, Walton and Johnson, Art Bell, and Opie and Anthony.
 
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I’m born after 2000 but I was thinking about this today, I grew up with Magic School Bus and that was very deliberately diverse but it just feels a lot more sincere and innocent than what’s seen today. I don’t think it’s nostalgia either, nowadays it seems to be motivated purely out of spite while back then it seemed more well intentioned.
 
That's when I first really got into Stern. I remember laughing so hard I couldn't breath when Nancy Martling and her shitty folk band played that hippie folk song for Gary the Retard's birthday, interspersed with clips of Gary being a retard. There really was nothing like that on TV back then, or since for that matter.

Once I started really getting into the E show, I found out what radio station he was on locally, and have been a big fan ever since. That was such an awesome time for radio entertainment. Between two radio stations, I had Stern, Phil Hendrie, Walton and Johnson, Art Bell, and Opie and Anthony.
As for me, I was in my teens at the time of classic radio era Stern around the early 2000's, so I was more or less like, "DUDE! He's interviewing porn stars on cable TV!!!!!" And now everything beyond the Artie years at SiriusXM is basically just The View with a lot more swear words. It's sad, really -- and embarrassing how much of a mainstream Hollywood hack he's become. Ditto with Jimmy Kimmel; watching The Man Show or even his co-hosting gig on Win Ben Stein's Money is night-and-day jarring to modern Hollywoke libtard Kimmel.
 
I think that had Battlefield Earth and Waterworld been made in Current Year instead of in the '90s (though the former was released in 2000), they may have done better. No "identity politics" BS in them, even if there was any "political correctness" by '90s standards.
 
No "identity politics" BS in them, even if there was any "political correctness" by '90s standards.
I'm kind of on the young side, wasn't old enough to remember 9/11 but still before the internet was everywhere. Growing up in the 2000s I can remember that what I recognize as political correctness was way different from now. Growing up it seems like the motivation was "All races should get along and we can all live together happily and not care about color", and now it's more of a "White people have original sin, black people deserve to reparations and extra privileges."

They're completely opposing mentalities. I find often right wingers are yearning to return to the political correctness of the past not return to the racism of the past.

Something I also find interesting is how the "old political correctness" and "new political correctness" oppose on so many fronts, like how they view stereotypes. Growing up the message was universally "Stereotypes are bad, black people are like white people, they can be lawyers, and doctors and artists. Not ghetto stereotypes.". Now it seems like the new politically correct mentality seems to think "Being a ghetto stereotype is blackness, hating being a ghetto stereotype is racism."

I was taken a back playing a game recently that had a explicitly black history month event that had the player collecting bling and graffiti themed items. Similarly I see people on Twitter answering criticism of rap music with "just say you hate black people.", and who could forget the Joe Biden quote "if you're not voting for me, you ain't black!". Being black isn't a skin color anymore, it's seen as a worshiped culture of ghetto behavior.

Working on stuff that airs on TV I've noticed that the "old political correctness" and "new political correctness" exist besides each other, with alot of people still having the mindset of everyone getting along and being equal, but others having a mindset of disadvantaging white people to advantage black people.
 
The key difference in the 90s vs. today is that it was considered worse to be a sexist than a racist back then versus today where it is the total opposite. They’d even shame black men for being too mean to women, Eddie Murphy starred in a movie about it, something unthinkable today.
What movie was this?
 
Growing up it seems like the motivation was "All races should get along and we can all live together happily and not care about color", and now it's more of a "White people have original sin, black people deserve to reparations and extra privileges."

They're completely opposing mentalities. I find often right wingers are yearning to return to the political correctness of the past not return to the racism of the past.
Live long enough and you'll live to see your words meaning the opposite.

The original meaning of "safe space" was a place where you could air your racist thoughts without being judged for them.

just think about that. The average person was so non offending racist people had tp be nudged to say things that might be racist. now safe space means the opposite, where certain things may not be said.
 
Political correctness in the 1990s was simmering the frog
Political correctness in the 2020s is boiling the frog
It seemed harmless (and I think many, particularly younger Kiwi Farmers, forget that PC drove people up the wall back then too) because we were still at the top of the slippery slope. Indulgence and exaggeration of those values lead directly to today.

As far as race relations go, I think they peaked in America in the 1980s/1990s. During the 1960s and 1970s we were still learning to live with Blacks as equals. North and South alike. Mexican mass immigration hadn't, to my knowledge, really started yet, and nobody would care about Muslims at all until 9/11, which I think is actually part of why the neocons became so obsessed with Islam for a while, we'd been playing in their sandbox for fifty years without the average American giving much of any thought to the Middle East (see how old cartoons depict it as some cool Arabian Nights land).

By the 1980s and 1990s, I believe it had healed over for all practical purposes. Blacks were going to be resentful because there was never a world in which they wouldn't be, and why shouldn't they? American Whites will never be able to understand, on an emotional level, the fatalism, ethnocentrism and distrust Blacks have had beaten into them by hundreds of years of experience and being conned and misused. But what they could do was suck it up and be functional citizens, and the country was quickly integrating. Whites and Blacks mostly kept to themselves but there was, as many have noted, a racial detente and multiracial society was becoming common.

Mexicans were the oddballs, somewhat new and mostly ignored. Resented for taking the jerbs back then more than for spreading crime (which I suspect has a lot to do with the new Mexicans being Central Americans, who seem way more demented). They were targets of pity more than of scorn even by the conservatives, but were also a people apart. Tragic. They didn't get an easy ride back then, welfare wasn't thrown at them as readily, they were more afraid of Whites, deportation was a genuine danger.

It all started to go downhill around Rodney King, but it was still very slow. Obama blew it wide open. What we're living in now is a new Nadir of American Race Relations, the 1910s/1920s all over again but with Whites as the victim group. Last time it was shitbag Progressives trying to jail their political opponents (Eugene Debs), start wars to make the world safe for democracy, colluding with industrial elites to expand federal power and wage race and religion war to get the revolutionary proles to turn on each other (rise of the Ku Klux Klan). Today it's shitbag Progressives trying to jail their political opponents (Donald Trump), start wars to make the world safe for democracy, colluding with industrial elites to expand federal power and wage race and religion war to get the revolutionary proles to turn on each other (rise of BLM and Antifa).

It's also the 1970s all over again, too, except without the cool cars, good music, cool clothes etc., the 1970s terrorism and inflation but everything is gay and sucks now.

I don't know what exactly made it blow up. I have to think Blacks were always much angrier about things than they let on. But the media really did play a huge role in fanning the flames of race war. They knew exactly what they were doing when they'd take shut-and-dry self defense cases like Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown and try to engineer anti-White pogroms from it. Obama likewise ran on a platform that lead (braindead) normalfaggots to think he was some messiah (civil libertarian, social liberal, isolationist, puralist) and then ruled as a wannabe dictator, warmonger and sectarian.

I think it probably was, as many have said here, Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party. The real ruling party of America, all along, was Progressivism. Had been since the days of Woodrow Wilson, that bastard, when he took the worst of the North and of the South and merged it into one ungodly abomination that has ruined the country and will likely kill it. The Progressives, an elitist and technocratic bunch, saw a very sharp threat to their power if the multicultural/civic nationalist populists of Left and Right realized that they had more in common with each other than they realized, and so they tried to stave that off (very successfully) by provoking a race war.
 
There’s a lot of people here that look at 90s political correctness with rose-colored lenses. Rodney Kang was the St. George of the 90s and the media happily incited race riots and also rushed to release a soundtrack to the rioting. Rage Against The Machine was heavily promoted at this time to make white self loathing cool. The whole Benetton rainbow was a thing of the eighties, by the nineties the powers that be were willing to advance antiwhite hatred. Only reason why we see it more now is because there were too many white people in 1990 vs. 2020.
 
90s political correctness was when people started saying "challenged" and "challenges" and so on. It's never stated who has "challenged" the person in question. There's some belief one has to have, somewhat like Greek tragedy, where someone "intellectually challenged" has been challenged by the gods to make it through life while being a retard. I still refuse to use these terms.

The other odd thing, from a UK perspective, was that the residual use of "nigger" in "eeny-meeny-miney-mo" and expression like "nigger in the woodpile" was still around when "nigger" was being "reclaimed" and used as a synonym of "man" or "person" by niggers themselves. So people were still trying to get us to stop saying "nigger", by declaring it racist, while also increasing the use of it in circumstances where it had not previously been used.
 
I felt that the 90s was a magic time when nobody really gave a fuck.
The whole decade was the "oh no, anyway" gif.
"There's two fellas in drag!" Oh no, anyway.
"That's a racist joke!" Oh no, anyway.
"That lass is being a big slutty" oh no, anyway.

I think it helped that we were steaming towards the millennium - seen as a new age, a fresh start and an explosion in technology, rendering the 90s as being forgiven for doing anything. Kind of like how if the Earth was going to end and you murdered someone, it wouldn't carry any weight because the world was ending and the response would be "oh no, anyway".
 
I felt that the 90s was a magic time when nobody really gave a fuck.
The whole decade was the "oh no, anyway" gif.
"There's two fellas in drag!" Oh no, anyway.
"That's a racist joke!" Oh no, anyway.
"That lass is being a big slutty" oh no, anyway.
Wide access to the Internet has had a profoundly negative effect on people's ability to relax, social media is a fake world where everyone cares about everything until it drives them insane.
 
I felt that the 90s was a magic time when nobody really gave a fuck.
The whole decade was the "oh no, anyway" gif.
"There's two fellas in drag!" Oh no, anyway.
"That's a racist joke!" Oh no, anyway.
"That lass is being a big slutty" oh no, anyway.

I think it helped that we were steaming towards the millennium - seen as a new age, a fresh start and an explosion in technology, rendering the 90s as being forgiven for doing anything. Kind of like how if the Earth was going to end and you murdered someone, it wouldn't carry any weight because the world was ending and the response would be "oh no, anyway".
I feel like we will achieve alot if we just accept that the "Oh no anyways" ideology isn't sustainable.
 
I feel like we will achieve alot if we just accept that the "Oh no anyways" ideology isn't sustainable.
It is sustainable. Not caring and not giving a fuck is the most sustainable attitude because it requires zero energy spent.
The problem is, people who can't not give a fuck. The nosey busybodies who scream for attention and then the whores who try and cash in on the outrage.

There's a reason no-one cared about faggots or trannies in the 90's compared to now; people now pretend to care to cover up emptiness in their lives that didn't exist in the 90's.
 
I remember being really into the whole 'save the rainforests' shit, but it's been coming out that a lot of it is bullshit. 'Slash and burn', as it was branded, is actually the traditional manner of cultivation in many rainforests around the world. A lot of the huge amounts of biodiversity comes from rotating plots of land into agriculture, then allowing them to naturalize into rainforest again, meaning that you had a whole bunch of different stage growth forest right next to each other offering a huge diversity of ecological niches. So why was it villainized? I remember there was a push for 'responsible' agriculture & logging, which ultimately meant high-tech backed by NGO money. Americans wanted to exploit the rainforests, extract the value, and greenwash the whole thing at the same time. They pretended that the Amazon tribes were just poor retarded monkeys living in the jungle who got crushed like mice living in the cornfield when the harvesters came through, when in reality they'd been doing swidden agriculture (slashing and burning) on rotating plots of lands for millenia. It even resulted in the creation, over time, of the famously fertile terra preta soils.

But rotating farming like this precludes a market in farmland, which precludes corporate profiteering. I think that's why you saw huge buy-ups of the rainforest to 'save' it in the 90s - once that land was in private hands it was taken out of the use of the people who actually live there, something that isn't profitable to multinational corporations.
 
An early example of "political correctness" is that by the 1990s, Star Trek: TNG changed "where no man has gone before" to "where no one has gone before" in that intro. Though it may have changed by Current Year, the proper English for sex "gender" neutral is male "pronouns", and no "they/them" for singular (didn't know 'til recently).
 
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