1980s anime aesthetic - I remember when they used to animate on ones

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If there's an art style that needs to come back... It's amazing how detailed and stylized that animation was back then and just how far it's deteriorated since. What is the deal? Is it just too expensive to do an art style like that on computers? Do they think no one wants it or notices?
 
If there's an art style that needs to come back... It's amazing how detailed and stylized that animation was back then and just how far it's deteriorated since. What is the deal? Is it just too expensive to do an art style like that on computers? Do they think no one wants it or notices?
In the 80s in Japan they were in a huge economic boom. They were tossing money left and right to animators to make things, no matter what it was. This is why so many beautifully animated short films and movies were made during this time, or just a couple episode runs. It's also why some of the most bizarre shit came out in that time. By the 90s things started to stagnate, which is when by the middle you start seeing a difference in what's being put out.

Now a lot of anime is made for the whales. The fanboys who will spend $700 on a statue of their waifu, with the exception of children's media, because the studios aren't just getting money thrown at them anymore and they need to pay the bills somehow.
 
An entire thread of retro anime and not even one mention of Key the metal idol? for shame my kneegrows
Unfortunately, a lot of it is hidden from the public unless you have an account.

This one is my favorite
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Of course he does mostly porn...

What looks jarring about this coomer's designs is that he takes current characters and makes them retro but still keeps the porn-like amounts of T&A that modern anime has which looks out of place with the style of an age where a busty anime girl would be "unnamed background character #83" in any current anime where you either got massive tits or flat lolis.

Of all his stuff the only that looks like its actually out of a real 80's anime is this:
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She looks like straight out of saber marionette J, which sucked ass but thats not the point.
watched Akira for the first time
What are you 10? how did you avoid watching THE anime of all time? that movie mogged disney animators.
Oh, I'm aware of that. I'm just more taken aback at how 80s anime they could get at times.
The intros were basically anime because even western cartoonists could see it was cooler than their stuff.
This happened well into the mid 90's, I think even a few series like SWAT Katz had their styled drastically changed because an anime studio was willing to animate them. Batman:TAS had a ton of episodes animated by Japanese studios.

Bubblegum Crisis is also another one worth checking out, that and it's sequel 2040.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=an_0IIRDlc4
If there's one trope from old anime that I don't miss is the long music video sequences, it always felt cringy to me even as a kid.

Also am I the only one who thinks "bubblegum crisis" is the dumbest name ever?
Or maybe that's because Initial D is the first time I noticed a style change.
You mean the shitstastic 3D animation? because the character style its straight out of the manga, it has nothing to do with the animation.
may have been due to the rise of OVAs allowing animators to just go nuts and show off their skills.
That's exactly the reason, consider a "cheap" OVA would cost you $100 per episode, in 80's dollars so it would like what, $300 now? most weebs can barely afford their crunchy(shit)roll subscription.
you might want to check out Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honnêamise from 1987.
Amazing animation but not a fun movie and the ending its gainax going up its own ass. I still believe anno's butthurt at otakus stems from how badly this film did with that public because he believes it was "too deep" rather than just the anime equivalent of a tech demo, which is probably why he went with dumb-ish mecha&tits the anime, aka: gunbuster, right after that.
At least the sequel of the novel i'm working on is filled with that aethestic.
What's the first one?
The 80's anime aesthetic is so much better then today's anime. Everything in modern anime feels too polished and "clean", there needs to be some grit.

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To think dirty pair was considered top pervy anime with too much fanservice back then.

Now it wouldn't even register when the average anime girl in a TV show has looked like this for what, a decade?
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I'll say it now, masculine but lean anime women are so much fucking better then the literal 11 year old's we get in modern anime.
80's anime girls look more masculine than 2023's anime guys.
I blame the internet for it
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Like really what the fuck is this weak ass pussy shit?
80's catgirls were hot.

2023's catgirls have dicks.
Not enough highlights on the hair, skirt too long can't see the panties, and not enough shit/accessories in her hair or whatever like those vtuber sluts have.
Obligatory OtaKing:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU
One fan of 80s anime made this in his basement. A lot of scenes made use of modern tech. For ships and stuff, he uses 3D references made in Cinema 4D and then rotoscopes over them in TVPaint, by hand. He nailed the aesthetic.

Also:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5tBuPwXBCvs
Goddamn, I love this shit. So much better than modern moeshit it’s not even funny.
It goes to show how retarded the myopic assholes working at disney right now are when they pass over this to make the most generic-looking anime with a literal furry instead.
and most importantly, quality over quantity.
There was a lot of trash back then too, you just don't remember.

Like check the anime lineup for 1995, do you remember any of the shows there besides eva?

The difference is that pumping trash its easier than ever so theres more, but it was always quantity over quality except maybe during the short golden era of OVA during the 80's and early 90's.
I can't believe it took me this long to remember ROBOT CARNIVAL.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Am8grbyTxTw
That opening still gets me excited.
Otomo did that, and the third segment of Neotokyo.
What is the deal? Is it just too expensive to do an art style like that on computers?
Extremely because it still needs to be hand-drawn and theres way more detail so it would take longer to animate.

However with AI on the rise you could be able to train a model into turning shitty contemporary anime into 80's style.
Do they think no one wants it or notices?
Is there a market? because the vast majority of weebs now started with naruto and other early 2000's crap, they think 80's anime looks old and therefore "lame", they prefer their bigtiddy anime gf of "undetermined age".
 
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What's the first one?
A big mix of eras between nations.
World capped at the 70's with a alliance but entirely destroyed by a war.
So the more advanced nation stucked in the 50's. The others are between 10-40 of slow advance.
I used USA/Europe as base but i took some Asian elements and introduced naturally into the nationalities.
The sequel have a main city which is a mix between the USA/Europe 80's, a bit of dystopic vibes mixed with Japan's "economic bubble" of the 80's too and a retro-futurist police with high-edge vehicles and guns.
This is in a early stage thought.
 
Dude! I am currently rewatching Queen Millennia for the first time since my early childhood and i simply love those timeless Matsumoto aesthetics. Sure, the animation is not top notch but the colour pallete, the backgrounds, simply amazing. I'm also fond of his potato head characters that most people seem to hate and that show has plenty of them. The mechanical designs are another highlight, but that's par for the course with Matsumoto's works.
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I also remember being shit-scared of the intro when i was little, it still has a certain eerieness to it when i watch it today:
Intro song is a banger, too.
How about that Space Cobra? Osamu Dezaki is one of my favourite directors, he has such a striking style. I loved both the series and the movie. I should probably read the manga at some point as well. It has the kind of Star Wars science-fantasy vibes

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dt6XXfcdVY0
Dezaki is another legend. I remember disliking his style a lot when i first got into manga and anime but over the years my taste started to go towards the works that looked unique and not typically animu. Hideaki Arai, Hideo Yamamoto and, of course, Otomo are some of my favourite artists nowadays. Shirow is another one, his mecha design in the Appleseed manga is second to no one's in the business, i will forever mourn that he didn't finish those books. Kenichi Sonoda's designs for Bubblegum Crisis are also noteworthy, i find them to be the perfect evolution of classic 80's mecha design made for a 90's audience, from a non-giant robo anime perspective.
The animation quality is not great but for me City Hunter is peak Jap '80s aesthetic:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=O02ZoFsGIcQ
The music too, I have something like 10 CDs with the series/OAVs soundtracks.
I'm a big fan of the show but the manga is where Tsukasa Hojo's artwork really shines, absolutely outstanding. And i agree, peak 80's aesthetic indeed.
 
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A big mix of eras between nations.
World capped at the 70's with a alliance but entirely destroyed by a war.
So the more advanced nation stucked in the 50's. The others are between 10-40 of slow advance.
I used USA/Europe as base but i took some Asian elements and introduced naturally into the nationalities.
The sequel have a main city which is a mix between the USA/Europe 80's, a bit of dystopic vibes mixed with Japan's "economic bubble" of the 80's too and a retro-futurist police with high-edge vehicles and guns.
This is in a early stage thought.
Its gonna be a novel or a graphic novel?
Definitely. Akira is still popular but weab fags hate it.
AKIRA will always be popular because it was a huge groundbreaking film, its timeless.

Weebs hate it because Otomo went for a more realistic design, the characters actually look like japanese people and there's no fanservice unless you consider Kaori's near rape to be that in which case you need help.
 
Its gonna be a novel or a graphic novel?
For now a novel, but i really want to do a graphic novel with a good artist someday.
I think the writer part is enough to giving reader's a lot of imagination in the hand-to-hand combat narratives. But giving visuals on it could be more interesting.
 
Weebs hate it because Otomo went for a more realistic design, the characters actually look like japanese people
Weebs are fucking retarded. Otomo is a god amongst mangaka, completly unique style. The pencils in Legend of Mother Sarah are my favourite work of his, a neater and cleaner look than in Akira, though the messiness (for lack of a better term) of his work in the Akira manga perfectly fits the setting. Mother Sarah is also underrated as fuck.
Amazing animation but not a fun movie and the ending its gainax going up its own ass. I still believe anno's butthurt at otakus stems from how badly this film did with that public because he believes it was "too deep" rather than just the anime equivalent of a tech demo
Extremly based take. That film was a total slog to watch, no matter how amazing the animation.
 
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Minky Momo is a pretty great 80s magical girl show. It has lots of references to other properties (Mazinger Z, Kamen Rider, Lupin III) and the storyline near the end reflects the show's own production troubles, which I find amusing. It's also a show that the whole family can watch together in that it's well-written and self-aware enough for adults to enjoy and it's appropriate for kids. Unfortunately, the main series only started getting fansubbed just recently, and 16 out of 63 episodes have been subbed so far, so it will probably be years before we can see the complete series subbed.


Minky Momo was rivalled throughout the 80s by Creamy Mami, another magical girl show that I find pretty fun and well-written for an episodic kids' anime. The rivalry between Minky Momo and Creamy Mami was even parodied in this official animation that had Minky Momo and Creamy Mami fight one another.

 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yB-AUqDAmU0
Ulysses 31, a 1981 coproduction between DIC and the Japanese studio TMS Entertainment, is a pretty neat anime. It's a loose retelling of Greek mythological tales and a cool space opera too with colourful, futuristic designs. It's one of my favourite animes -- I'm surprised it's not more popular.
Barely got anywhere in America...
 
This is a kids' mecha show from 1989. It's pretty well animated, which is especially brought out by the fact that it had a Blu-Ray remaster. It combines the mecha elements with magical boy stuff, which I find to be a nice blend. Some of the mechs in the show can also convert from giant walking faces to more typical mechs, which reminds me of Gurren Lagann.
 

Despite being a tape made to work with a laser tag toy, the animation is quite smooth and it's worth your time if you like futuristic 80s anime. Technically it's a Western cartoon, but the animation was done by AIC and the designs were done by Artmic, so I'm calling this an 80s anime. Artmic also did designs for that live-action 80s Photon show, which featured lolcow David Stay as the villain.
 
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