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It's a labour stronghold, with the latest figures I've seen giving them more votes than Restore and Reform combined: The chances of winning were always vanishingly small, but the real-world experience will be priceless.
Labour's internal polling apparently puts the combined restore/reform vote at a little more than labour. It also puts restore at a respectable 13-14%, which is a significant shift from the 9% they were polled at a week or so ago. They appear to be soaking a not insignificant labour defector vote, if the numbers are anything to go by, which means they're potentially establishing a new political paradigm that cuts across the traditional labour/tory left/right axis. This is to be expected; we're in a transitional period, politically speaking, similar to the demise of the whigs and the old aristocratic tories. I don't think makerfield is going to be such an easy win for burnham as people think, especially given starmer will be doing everything he can to sabotage the outcome, however much he might protest otherwise.
As we're getting close to the by-election, do you believe it was a good idea for Restore to stand? On one hand, it's brought a lot of public attention to them, on the other, it's given Andy Burnham a good chance of winning and becoming PM (assuming all the Restore voters would have otherwise voted for Reform).
At first I was pretty hyped about it, and thought there was potential for Restore to overtake Reform. Now I don't really expect that to happen, but I think the benefit that comes from this is that Restore will be showing that they can get a very decent turnout despite being even newer than Reform. Nigel was such a retard to say that Restore wouldn't even get 1% in the Great Yarmouth local elections. If Restore can get into/close to double digits in Makerfield then it just rubs salt into the wound.
While there will be some Reform voters going to Restore, there will also be some who previously voted Labour but were going to sit this one out who would also now vote for Restore. Restore needs to get the ground game going to turn out the votes of disillusioned people who have given up on vooooting.
Restore benefits from "splitting the right wing vote", as it means that Burnham's victory will have a footnote that it would've been a closer race with Reform if Restore hadn't turned up. This raises Restore's profile. And so what if Burnham gets in and becomes Labour leader & PM, everything in government is going to progress as it has been (or become weaker on things like immigration if he wants to get rid of Mahmoud's token harder line towards migrants), so it will just build more resentment among undecideds and people on the right. And hey, they've then just heard about a new right wing party that seems to be plucky, so will be more likely to throw a vote their way, rather than the other contenders like Advance who showed with Gorton & Denton that they have no hope of becoming challengers (and are now falling apart with internal bickering about whether they are even going to continue existing)
As we're getting close to the by-election, do you believe it was a good idea for Restore to stand? On one hand, it's brought a lot of public attention to them, on the other, it's given Andy Burnham a good chance of winning and becoming PM (assuming all the Restore voters would have otherwise voted for Reform).
I believe it'll be a net positive for Restore to run. The most important hurdle for them right now is to get more exposure, and mainstream media will be reluctant to cover them unless they have to.
There's basically three possibilities
- Restore gets a low enough amount of votes that it doesn't affect the Labour/Reform race. Dissapointing for Restore. But they're still new and unknown.
-Restore gets a decent two-figure result and as a result Reform bleeds enough supporters that Labour wins the seat. Restore will get blamed by Reform for splitting the vote, but a fair amount of Reform voters is probably willing to vote Restore if it looks like a realistic alternative to Reform, and a result of 10-20% would indicate that Restore is a serious contender in a future election. So for every restore voter getting pissed over vote-splitting more would, I think, be more likely to consider switching to Restore. Only negative I could see is if Reform could successfully pin future Burnham sillyness on Restore, but that's a hard sell, seing as they themselves campaigned heavily on getting Starmer out.
-Restore wins the seat or becomes larger than Reform. The floodgates are potentially open for a mass exodus of every Reform voter who prefer Restore but has voted Reform as they see them as a more viable alternative to actually win seats or because Restore wasn't running in their area last election.
In either of the two last cases, mainstream media will be forced to heavily report on Restore, granting them a big uptick in recognition and potential to win new voters.
Restore Britain group ‘likely to be formed at the Senedd with Reform defectors’ - Nation Cymru
Restore Britain to steal fifth of Reform’s voters, poll suggests - Telegraph
Is Rupert Lowe’s threat to Farage real? I went to Restore’s heartland to find out - Telegraph
Restore’s rise is a menace to society - Morning Star (lol, it's an actual Communist rag)
'A new home for old fascists': Restore Britain steals a rightward march on Reform - Observer
British politicians are racing to the hard right - Economist
There are no guardrails now on the right of UK politics: where Restore Britain goes, others will follow - Guardian (Owen Jones)
Will Restore Britain gift Andy Burnham victory in by-election? Internal Labour poll 'shows Right-wing rival on 13% and splitting Reform UK's support' -Mail
How the many faces of Rupert Lowe are set to saddle Britain with the most Left-wing PM in our history - Mail
Why the North is gravitating towards Restore - UnHerd
Absolutely no doubt they did the right thing by standing. Before the by-election they couldn't get mentioned in MSM for anything, now there's a seethe piece most days. Also Farage looking stressed a couple of times in recent days, one of which was in response to a question about Restore in Makerfield (videos posted further down). The longpost below about game theory and Restore looks pretty relevant.
Recent horrific events (for reference cause and effect) -
In general the horrors of modern immigration are a where Restore's style of invective really shines. Even more so in this case because there's an effective attack vector on Reform UK (two of Reform's five proposed cabinet members were in charge of immigration when the creature was granted asylum in 2023). Restore ran with prosecuting them for it (not likely).
Loweposting - Even when a journalist tried to make this post sound villanous it just sounds awesome, in the trues sense of the word and in my obviously biased opinion).
Frank Wright - the final post below links a source, archive here
Charlie Downes - was blocked by Matt Goodwin for calling out the fact he used the Belfast atrocity to shill his book. This followed a few days of general badgering about whether Goodwin (a former lefty glowie), believes in reversing demographic change.
Farage looking frazzled.
In the press briefing he said 'one of [Restore's] senior commentators' wants to deport all Jews. He gives enough detail to conclude he means Steve Laws, who has repeatedly clarified he is a normal member with no position in the party.
Ant Middleton is a 'don't split the vote' cuck (really though, Reform treated him badly when he wanted to be their London Mayoral candidate), but Scotty T from Geordie Shore is a fuck it all patriot.
Makerfield -
New polling still puts Restore at 8%, vs 13% for Labour's internal canvassing. Don't know about this particular poll but most so far have not prompted Restore Britain on the main list, it's been a write-in or on a secondary 'Other' list. Canvassing covers a much bigger sample size (polls are 500-1000 people), but Labour lie about everything so who knows.
A brief clip of Restore's candidate Rebecca Shepherd responding to Question Time on Henry Nowak. She's still nervy and talks around the subject too much but hits the right notes and doesn't sound overly coached. They aren't doing a lot of media with her, she seems to be out campaigning a decent amount.
She doesn't seem to enjoy being photographed and seems to hang back in pictures, which is a shame because she's a good looking woman (of her age) and should be the center of focus. At least one white van man is not voting Kenyon, despite Reform campaigning on it.
A classic Restore vs Restore moment in Makerfield. Watch a Boriswave canvasser try to cobble together sentences about Lowe being racist, to an MLE-speaking lefty.
I looked at voting intention polls to get an idea of Restore's popularity outside of sites like this and twitter. The above is an Ipsos poll from mid-May. Most of them have Restore between 3 and 8%. This is even if you generously assign 100% of "Other" to Restore.
To the British Kiwis in this thread, does it look like Restore has a real shot? Or are we getting worked up for nothing? I know only the very basics of UK elections so I would be very happy to be missing something here.
I looked at voting intention polls to get an idea of Restore's popularity outside of sites like this and twitter. The above is an Ipsos poll from mid-May. Most of them have Restore between 3 and 8%. This is even if you generously assign 100% of "Other" to Restore.
To the British Kiwis in this thread, does it look like Restore has a real shot? Or are we getting worked up for nothing? I know only the very basics of UK elections so I would be very happy to be missing something here.
Not a Brit. But like the USA, UK is fucked by political engineering so no matter what the big parties will win in big cities by hordes of shitskins voting for who promises the biggest gibs, and boomers voting for the same party they voted for the last 50 years.
1) continue to support the suigenocidal internationalist-occupied government (at least you have a choice in flavours, and you can feel like a winner on election day if the psyoperators do what psyopererators do);
2) support Restore and mitigate the damages incurred as a result of internationalist occupation (this is harder, you need to meme this by word of mouth IRL and without being a preachy sperg); or
3) peasants' revolt (this is the most unpredictable — when the police stations have been solvet in favillas, then the biggest man takes their place and he better be good not bad).
It really depends on how despaired you are. Despair is a sin, btw. De-spero, without hope. Faith, fides; confidence, with faith; fidelity, loyalty, truthfulness, faithfulness. But faith and hope don't amount to wishful thinking; that's presumption. And presumption is also a sin.
So if we consider your question in good faith, then you ask what work must be done in hope (and in charity, specifically in patriotism). The bad faith reading, of course, is psyoperator doommaxxing unto the perpetuity of a suigenocidal internationalist regime. But in good faith, you are a wake up call that One Must Meme In Real Life, if one is hi-fi for restoration.
I looked at voting intention polls to get an idea of Restore's popularity outside of sites like this and twitter. The above is an Ipsos poll from mid-May. Most of them have Restore between 3 and 8%. This is even if you generously assign 100% of "Other" to Restore.
These are always prompted polls. What that means is, they ask specifically about the intention to vote for each party by name, or "other". Sometimes they might ask the responder to name a particular party under other. When a party is prompted, it gets a much bigger intended vote share than when it isn't prompted. You also have to consider that people often say they intend to vote for one party when they actually intend to vote for another. Then you have to consider party age. Restore is an unknown quantity, who only stood councillors in great yarmouth at the locals, and is only now campaigning for a national seat. They've existed for less than a year, but in many polls already stand at around 8-9%, unprompted. Reform took several years to reach a similar point. Finally there's time lag. An Ipsos poll from three weeks ago is already going to be out of date.
Any new poll that prompts them will almost certainly put them much higher. As mentioned above, Labour's internal polling allegedly puts them at 13-14%, which means they presumably asked about Restore by name, likely within the last 7 to 10 days.
What did Restore Great Yarmouth First get in the polls compared to the actual result in the local elections?
That could give an indication of how much Restore can potentially go above polling. (Although Lowe was already well known in Yarmouth so recognition was less of an issue there)
I can only find one poll prior to the election that actually mentions them, which very small and likely not representative. It put them at 44%, with the results being 46-50%. Every other poll would have grouped them as "other" and probably had them on 10% or less.
Not necessarily. If (and that's indeed a big if) you are conducting them in good faith and genuinely attempt to get a good representation of the voter base you can get a pretty good approximation.
The problem is if you deliberately or through incompetence run polls that ignore or overly weigh certain portions of the electorate you get skewed results.
If you get a lot of responses through landline phones for example, you will massively overrepresent the older demographics as barely anyone younger than their 70's use a landline phone anymore.
You basically need to comb through the methodology of any poll to acertain if it might be representative, and that's a lot of work.
Reform cucks in SHAMBLES. How do you recover from this? Your politicians are gay nigger lovers! What's next, is Farage going to admit he has a black step son?
Reform cucks in SHAMBLES. How do you recover from this? Your politicians are gay nigger lovers! What's next, is Farage going to admit he has a black step son?
Jesus Christ... how many years of corporate sponsored pride events does it take to produce that kind of comment? And from an ostensibly right of center party. It's about an inch from Pakis demanding to know if their 12 year old White sex slaves are going to be taken.
Take into account this is likely very, very heavily redacted and whitewashed as it is. We'll never know the extent of the truth and how deep this dark, evil rabbit hole really goes.