Final Fantasy XIV - Kiwi Free Company

[Zilortha]

Had the exact same experience yesterday. Doing the Second Coil of Bahamut Turn 1, really easy fight, but we wiped three times because one of the tanks didn't know what a tank swap was. How the fuck do you get that far into the game and not know how to do a tank swap?

Probably someone new to tanking. They might've progressed as dps or healer or something else and swapped on the fly to tanking on a whim.
They think "well, most of this content is easy, so surely there won't be any issues", but it's not that simple.

I've experienced that quite a lot doing low end/older content.

 

[reinigen]

Pity that white mage has the worst class quests. Followed closely by paladin. You can always change to astrologian down the road though.

It gets better for a while from 40-50, most of the post-ARR msq's until HW are a snore, after that it gets better again. Also the Crystal Tower alliance raids are a requirement now.

Don't worry about savage content until the cap plus it's the end of the expansion and many people aren't raiding now. I'm unsubbed now, but will sub to reset the demo timer on my house.

I'd disagree with that, if only because the White Mage/Conjurer quests reveal quite a bit of interesting lore regarding the forest spirits and elementals you don't get many other places. The Paladin quests were a complete diappointment and waste of time given how much better the gladiator quest line was.

All the asspatting in the replies + the tidbit someone mentioned that a hardcore raid FC from Gilgamesh will be kitting them out in pentameld raid gear makes me a bit MATI.

Of course they are. All the FFXIV streamers and other peeps are clout chasing these streamers from WoW hard. Most notably is that Sifa guy who gets into their party finder groups, then said person posts chats from twitch chat making fun of him on Twitter and has people come asspat him to his defense because he was in the team that got a WF in TEA. The e-orbiting is getting out of hand.

World's best Boomkin boosts, skips all the cutscenes, and attempts raiding in FFXIV.

Someone on /wowg/ compiled a list of all of their characters:
Tank @maximum - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/31062037/
Tank @Naowhxd - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/38525767/
Melee @Awesome2daMax - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/38547276/
Ranged @JFunkGaming - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/38573349/
Caster @LimitKams - unknown for now
Caster @Naguura - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/38598397/
Healer @DatModz - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/37661875/
Healer @DGLumi - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/38090384/

Looks like the only one who hasn't boosted is DatModz, and MAYBE DGLumi. I wish people wouldn't clout chase and try to spoonfeed them everything. But let's be honest, doing all this content this late in the expansion isn't as impressive as doing it all when it's fresh due to iLvl creep.

 

[Kane Lives]

World's best Boomkin boosts, skips all the cutscenes, and attempts raiding in FFXIV.

Like clockwork.

Cue moaning when they inevitably can't skip the MSQ for the next expansion.

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

Are some of you guys too low to get into the Expert Roulette? That's the level 80 one split between a whopping two dungeons (one of which is comically undertuned) in order to get a lot of the most-recent tomestones. You have I would say a 50% chance of getting at least one of:

• freestyle DPS that does less damage than the tank, may also single-target AoE packs because "I don't have aoe skills on my bar"
• curebot healer who uses two abilities total from their kit and refuses to DPS, somehow manages to run out of mana despite just spamming curei/benefici/physick
• tank that refuses to use mitigation, freestyles two-button combos, spins the bosses, and single-pulls

I would wager a majority of the playerbase doesn't realize that Arm's Length / Surecast prevents knockbacks, that most of the tanks don't know what shirk does, and that a plurality if not narrow majority of players don't know what weaving is or how many times you can do it in a GCD. It shouldn't come as any surprise that you'll run into a -lot- of people as you go along that just straight up have no fucking idea how to to basic things, because they'll get carried and coddled.

I did an Orbonne Monastery yesterday with a monk that died 19 times - not more only because the healers stopped picking their retarded ass up. They stood in literally every single AoE and did not move once, they dropped AoEs and shit like Cid's markers in the wrong places every time, burned LB3 as quickly as possible despite the healers wanting to keep it up in case of emergencies, and yet plainly displayed that they were not a bot by asking "what am I doing wrong" in /say before immediately dying 3 more times to AoEs they made no effort to get out of. You know, orange circles. By at least level 70 and two other alliance raids' worth of content.

 

[Smug Chuckler]

I did an Orbonne Monastery yesterday with a monk that died 19 times

You poor thing...

 

[Tanner Glass]

I'd disagree with that, if only because the White Mage/Conjurer quests reveal quite a bit of interesting lore regarding the forest spirits and elementals you don't get many other places. The Paladin quests were a complete diappointment and waste of time given how much better the gladiator quest line was.




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World's best Boomkin boosts, skips all the cutscenes, and attempts raiding in FFXIV.

Someone on /wowg/ compiled a list of all of their characters:
Tank @maximum - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/31062037/
Tank @Naowhxd - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/38525767/
Melee @Awesome2daMax - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/38547276/
Ranged @JFunkGaming - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/38573349/
Caster @LimitKams - unknown for now
Caster @Naguura - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/38598397/
Healer @DatModz - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/37661875/
Healer @DGLumi - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/38090384/

Looks like the only one who hasn't boosted is DatModz, and MAYBE DGLumi. I wish people wouldn't clout chase and try to spoonfeed them everything. But let's be honest, doing all this content this late in the expansion isn't as impressive as doing it all when it's fresh due to iLvl creep.

A DPS meter with a tank at number 3, a healer at number 4, a tank at number 5.

Holy fuck.

 

[Gravemind]

Had the exact same experience yesterday. Doing the Second Coil of Bahamut Turn 1, really easy fight, but we wiped three times because one of the tanks didn't know what a tank swap was. How the fuck do you get that far into the game and not know how to do a tank swap?

Probably didn't do Extremes. Titan is realistically the first place you learn to do swaps on account of his stacking debuff. Then there's Ramuh, then Shiva.

Of course that just raises even more questions.

I would wager a majority of the playerbase doesn't realize that Arm's Length / Surecast prevents knockbacks, that most of the tanks don't know what shirk does, and that a plurality if not narrow majority of players don't know what weaving is or how many times you can do it in a GCD. It shouldn't come as any surprise that you'll run into a -lot- of people as you go along that just straight up have no fucking idea how to to basic things, because they'll get carried and coddled.

Didn't know Surecast also applied that affect, but Arm's Length doesn't block every form of knockback, although in dungeons I guess it doesn't matter as much. At any rate, you don't use Arm's Length in dungeons so much for knockback as for the AoE Slow it puts out. It's a tiny amount of CC that makes a world of difference for healers.

There's no need for Shirk in an Expert Roulette unless you want to fuck with somebody. Otherwise, yes, too many tanks suffer from caveman brain and tunnel vision. I still don't know why off-tanks always turn on their Tank stance during 8-man content.

As for that last point, always fucking has been, let me assure you.

A DPS meter with a tank at number 3, a healer at number 4, a tank at number 5.

Holy fuck.

A Machinist at the top of the chart, two White Mages, and Nagu clearly demonstrating that she has learned nothing about playing Red Mage still.

I can't wait for them to get fucking filtered. Of course, at the rate the community's going, they'll still probably try to handhold their ADHD asses in training as it is. But I don't have much faith that paypig level and content skippers who just came to a new game are going to have the patience and humility to really stick with actually learning how to fucking play.

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

You poor thing...

They only wiped us on Cid the once, and that was more because other alliances kept dying over and over again to TG blade of all things. My guess is that's why no-one really tried to votekick them until there was loot in the table, and by that point we'd already started on the last boss.

Didn't know Surecast also applied that affect, but Arm's Length doesn't block every form of knockback,

They basically prevent it from working if it would allow you to cheese a mechanic wholesale. But really, the slow's main use is for tanks - everyone else should realize it's a free way to keep pumping out damage, especially casters. Or at the very least, a way to save yourself from death if you fucked up your positioning on something like Omega. For most of the playerbase? They probably don't remember it's an ability.

And that's more what I mean with shirk, too. It's the game going "here you go, here's this ability" and people just... ignoring it entirely. Interject is one you need to use more often, and people rarely have that on their bar anywhere as well. For most people, the name of the game seems to be "put in as little effort as possible, but also I want to believe I am god's gift and carrying everything."

 

[Friendly_AI]

Question about weaving: as far as I tried several classes, most obvious and needed weaving was in Summoner. As far as my experiments went, Machinist also relies on it, Dark Knight uses some, maybe Ninja? Can it be that I can not do weaving due to a significant ping? (genius decision to move all NA servers to California makes playing on the east coast same as it was playing on NA servers from Europe).

 

[Zilortha]

Question about weaving: as far as I tried several classes, most obvious and needed weaving was in Summoner. As far as my experiments went, Machinist also relies on it, Dark Knight uses some, maybe Ninja? Can it be that I can not do weaving due to a significant ping? (genius decision to move all NA servers to California makes playing on the east coast same as it was playing on NA servers from Europe).

The only job that you might be barred from playing optimally due to ping is machinist. There are low/high ping variants of their openers/rotations that take your ping into account because of the regular double weaves needed for the optimal rotation.

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

Question about weaving: as far as I tried several classes, most obvious and needed weaving was in Summoner. As far as my experiments went, Machinist also relies on it, Dark Knight uses some, maybe Ninja? Can it be that I can not do weaving due to a significant ping? (genius decision to move all NA servers to California makes playing on the east coast same as it was playing on NA servers from Europe).

Skill/spell speed can compensate for ping and latency to allow you to fit more abilities within a window, and you can avoid the stat if you need more time between GCDs to hit OGCDs. Prettymuch every class should be weaving when they can and it's appropriate - just up to 2 OGCDs between GCDs on abilities that trigger the GCD immediately, and one after 'fast' casts. So you don't weave after Ruin III on summoner, but rather after the egi assults or the Ruin IV. It's pretty straighforward, and being extremely anal about timing isn't really necessary to still do a solid job making use of your full kit - the extreme analness is for the raidtrannies with nothing better to do than kill themselves.
People bitch about Summoner's rotation being hard, but it really isn't; the hard thing about summoner is hitting your raidbuff and noticing that your retarded pet just took 10 seconds to respond to the command and not immediately quitting for a different job.

I've never had an issue with weaving in 2 OGCDs in a time frame on the east coast, though I did slightly speed up my paladin's GCD with skill speed so that I could always fit a full melee combo into the fight or flight phase. If you stat too much skill speed, it can also create problems with classes like Monk where it's straight up impossible to fit 2 OGCDs into the window.

 

[reinigen]

I can't wait for them to get fucking filtered. Of course, at the rate the community's going, they'll still probably try to handhold their ADHD asses in training as it is. But I don't have much faith that paypig level and content skippers who just came to a new game are going to have the patience and humility to really stick with actually learning how to fucking play.

I tuned into Naowhxd's channel a moment ago and it's like you thought. He's just hitting the beginning of Tempest/Ondo Cups right now. He's clicking through quests at max speed, skipping cutscenes, and he has someone in the party with a multiseat mount just taxiing him to objectives with flying. What kind of a fucking simp do you have to be to chauffeur someone through the game like that?

LimitMax had to come out with a statement on Twitter though because the "REEEEEEE PLAY THE STORY" autists were non-stop spamming all of their twitch channels.

https://twitter.com/maximum/status/1425376541953961987

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Final Fantasy Gatekeeping thoughts and raid update​

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Hey guys, I'm starting some FF raids soon with a few friends and upon playing the game I've noticed a few things different in the community I'd like to talk about, and then at the end describe to what effect we'll be playing the game and why.

Gatekeeping
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I started playing Final Fantasy almost a year ago today in wow downtime(end of BFA) to see the game and play around with raid content a bit. I made it to max level and did the first savage boss before bigtime prep for shadowlands release became a priority. I did boost, If you've ever watched my channel I play MMOs for a very specific reason, end game PVE, that's it. I don't care about the story whatsoever, we literally just killed Sylvanas on mythic and the only thing I know about her is the hat she snapped in half made the shadowlands and she fucked up a tree. Boosting for me in FF14 is a way for me to enjoy the game for what I like about it, there is absolutely 0 chance that I or someone who plays games for a similar reason would make it through the slog of quests and cutscenes to make it to max level or probably even through ARR.

The reason I'm saying all this is I did this all a year ago(and really enjoyed it btw) and I didn't hear a single negative thing about boosting. It wasn't because I was unknown, I was the highest viewcount stream in the FF section for the few weeks I did it, and got a lot of people from different parts of the game to watch and enjoy it. Something has happened in the past year to where now streamers/players that are choosing to boost for the exact same reason are being very angrily gate kept by what I assume to be an extremely vocal minority within the community. It honestly sounds like what the worst part of the wow community sounds like but somehow has been ported to FF within the last year.

I don't think these people have bad intentions, I think more than anything else as this game is getting more attention, they don't want it to fall off. They want these new players and streamers to fall in love with the game the same way they did, the story. The story is the biggest selling point of FF14. When they see people willingly skip it they fear they'll quit the game without seeing why it's great(to them) in the first place. Imagine you're showing your favorite movie to your best friend and they're on their phone during the really cool part. You're gonna pause the movie, or rewind it because you want them to see it and love it the same way you did for the first time. It's exactly that in my opinion.

They're scared people are gonna miss the best part of the movie and say the movie was bad. I believe this is also a sore spot at the moment because the community apparantly believes Quin boosted recently and then subsequently said he didn't like the game or the story I don't remember, no idea if this is true or not but would certainly make it make more sense.

Regardless let people play the game the way they want to. If people dont fuck with wow quests/wow lore but they like wow there is fucking NO chance they will make it to 80 in FF without boosting. Its not a large majority of people but the gatekeeping just HAS to stop lmao people are leveling characters off stream to not get harrassed its fucking strange.

Game tribalism
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This is the other thing plaguing MMO twitch chats atm. People whos identity is somehow attached to how popular their favorite game is. This is the cause of probably 80% of the bad takes, you can see them self reporting by showing up into a channel and saying "isnt this game dead". A good example of this is valorant and CSGO. Watch the way a few valorant fans and CS fans interact. It's so important to them the other game is not as good/popular so it validates their choice of game and is copium so they dont lose their friend group to the other one, it's all out of insecurity. WoW is a very specifically weird case though(not including the recent activision lawsuit) wanting their own game to die, mainly due to having such a toxic relationship with the game over a long period of time that its a win in their book if it dies so they're .....right? about how much wow would be SO much better if they listened to all of their feedback personally.

Other games being good in your genre is the best possible thing for YOUR GAME. Competition makes them have to try so much harder to stay on top/compete and they get to yoink good ideas from the other games. We all know WoW needs this.

Upcoming Final Fantasy Streams
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I'm playing FF14 soon with the intention of doing all the raid fights blind with the gear/knowledge they had at progression. I've got a nice team mixed with some world first players from limit/echo/pieces, some content creators, and some casual players. Its going to be a ton of fun but I want to state what this content is going to be since from what i've seen people majorly misunderstand what we're doing.

This is not a team of wow world first raiders trying to break into the FF scene. I still to this moment don't know what limit break does(dont tell me), we know basically nothing about the game. This is more likely going to be comedy than anything super impressive. I am going to love the problem solving element but its going to start SLOW with us having to learn what mechanics in this game even look like.

About streaming. I've thought about this a lot as I think it will be good content to watch but only under the right circumstances. I'm not putting it in emote-only mode, or putting on a delay, i'd rather not stream. I'm going to put some well versed FF players as mods during this and I'm asking them to timeout/ban any backseating(first time timeout, second time ban). If we wanted to be backseated we would watch videos that would only completely suck the fun out of this, we want to struggle. If this can't be accomplished I will likely just plan on not streaming it if my chat is toxic or has any backseating whatsoever, i'm doing this for fun not for stream content. obviously If I do this it will still be available to watch on others streams in the group

That being said we should start end of this week most likely late NA times early EU times

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Based on that statement, I feel a bit better about the situation with them joining up. They're being patently transparent with their intentions, so I guess we wait and see if their words match their actions.

Slootbag, probably one of my favorite longtime WoW Mythic streamers, has started playing FFXIV as of last week as well. He talked about his take on the issue today, which I though was a pretty fair read. His opinion on the matter isn't just him speaking out of his ass either. It's being tempered by his girlfriend, Pucca Nyah, who appears to be a pretty serious raider and a triple legend who has been in the community for a good amount of time so far.

Pucca Nyah - Behemoth - FF Logs

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Pucca Nyah | FINAL FANTASY XIV, The Lodestone

Character profile for Pucca Nyah.

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Timestamped to the start of the discussion below. It does go on for a bit (30 minutes maybe?).

 

[FencePost]

Question about weaving: as far as I tried several classes, most obvious and needed weaving was in Summoner. As far as my experiments went, Machinist also relies on it, Dark Knight uses some, maybe Ninja? Can it be that I can not do weaving due to a significant ping? (genius decision to move all NA servers to California makes playing on the east coast same as it was playing on NA servers from Europe).

You could also run into some issues derived from lag playing BLM. There's a window that exists in the last .75 to .25 seconds of a cast where the game will finish the spell but you can start moving, so if you have inconsistent or really high ping, running higher end content as BLM is not advised.

I tuned into Naowhxd's channel a moment ago and it's like you thought. He's just hitting the beginning of Tempest/Ondo Cups right now. He's clicking through quests at max speed, skipping cutscenes, and he has someone in the party with a multiseat mount just taxiing him to objectives with flying. What kind of a fucking simp do you have to be to chauffeur someone through the game like that?

Fuck it, let them play like that. They'll bitch about not understanding the story in a couple weeks and everyone will give them shit for it like fucking clockwork.

 

[Gravemind]

What kind of a fucking simp do you have to be to chauffeur someone through the game like that?

Same kind of gathering of simps who donates 50 million gil to Asmongold and (disregard that, someone apparently gifted it to him instead, which isn't any better, really) Rich Campbell so they can each get the Gilded Mikoshi. At least Asmon isn't getting taxied, although for his own sake I really wish he would let someone taxi him to aether current locations because it seems like he's skipping over those, and every shortsighted idiot ends up regretting that later.

The reason I'm saying all this is I did this all a year ago(and really enjoyed it btw) and I didn't hear a single negative thing about boosting. It wasn't because I was unknown, I was the highest viewcount stream in the FF section for the few weeks I did it, and got a lot of people from different parts of the game to watch and enjoy it. Something has happened in the past year to where now streamers/players that are choosing to boost for the exact same reason are being very angrily gate kept by what I assume to be an extremely vocal minority within the community.

It's not a vocal minority. The reason you didn't hear it back then is because you had a hugbox. The only people who will continue telling you it's okay to skip are also part of your self-created hugbox, or they're sycophantic clout chasers within the XIV community, as many of them continue to expose themselves to be.

When they see people willingly skip it they fear they'll quit the game without seeing why it's great(to them) in the first place. [...] They're scared people are gonna miss the best part of the movie and say the movie was bad. I believe this is also a sore spot at the moment because the community apparantly believes Quin boosted recently and then subsequently said he didn't like the game or the story I don't remember, no idea if this is true or not but would certainly make it make more sense.

That's because skippers get fucking filtered all the god damned time in XIV. And why are you even bringing up the Quin case in some implicit defense of Quin, which 100% is the thing that happened in his case and we have the stream VODs on hand to prove it, if you're not even aware of the full details yourself? Fucking idiot.

I like how he proceeds to outline "game tribalism" and then mentions absolutely nothing about XIV tribalism. Which completely exists, mind you, but what the fuck does Twitch chat being Twitch chat about CSGO and Valorant have to do with WoW dying? You can't stop stream monsters from being stream monsters, and stream monsters are only going to double down on being stream monsters when they have some faggot streamer trying to admonish them like so. Only people who feel guilty about that sort of thing are insecure idiots.

This is not a team of wow world first raiders trying to break into the FF scene.

But that's exactly what it is.

I still to this moment don't know what limit break does(dont tell me)

How the fuck you gonna say that you played enough at a previous time to do at least one boss of Savage, even after having level skipped, and you don't know what the fuck a Limit Break does?

I'm going to put some well versed FF players as mods during this and I'm asking them to timeout/ban any backseating(first time timeout, second time ban)

Mentor Twitch mods, let's fucking go. That'll be a fun shitshow.

If this can't be accomplished I will likely just plan on not streaming it if my chat is toxic or has any backseating whatsoever, i'm doing this for fun not for stream content.

Then just don't stream at all you stupid cunt.

I'm certainly not impressed with that statement whatsoever. Guy sounds like a real faggot.

 

[Tanner Glass]

I like Limit Max but he sure is coming across as someone who thinks he knows everything.

This is not a team of wow world first raiders trying to break into the FF scene.

Yeah, we know. Method already did that by competing (but not winning) some of the FFXIV world first races as well as hosting/producing the most recent round of "Race for World First" for all of the Shadowbringers raids.

The reason people are calling you dumb is that FFXIV isn't the same game as WoW - specifically, nearly all of the raid mechanics are shown as mechanics inside of dungeons, single player duties, and trials. There is no "Deadly Boss Mods" or "Private Test Realm" - the raids expect you to know the markers and make decisions about them very fast because you should have (at that point) done them a hundred times by now.

 

[Agarathium1066]

It's not a vocal minority. The reason you didn't hear it back then is because you had a hugbox. The only people who will continue telling you it's okay to skip are also part of your self-created hugbox, or they're sycophantic clout chasers within the XIV community, as many of them continue to expose themselves to be.

Agreed. Skippers/Boosties have gotten badmouthed and maligned (often rightly so) since they were a thing added to the game, they've only gotten worse as the game continues along. I 'look forward' to seeing how many people get their faces torn off by Titania and the WoL when they're boosting up to Shadowbringers in the future. People already get bodied by them so its just going to get worse.

I made the life mistake of joining a Trials queue and had to explain why sprinting away from the party when you get a stack marker is a terrible idea. It was on Susanoo, all but two (and that includes myself) were very blatantly boosted.

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

I 'look forward' to seeing how many people get their faces torn off by Titania and the WoL when they're boosting up to Shadowbringers in the future.

FINAL FANTASY XIV Job Level-Boost and Scenario Skip Item Guide

An overview of the job level-boost and scenario skip items for FINAL FANTASY XIV.

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Pretty sure you already boost right up to 70 with story skips, and the job skips are all 70. The telltale is a full set of scaevan with an alliance ring. It's why Holminster Switch and Dohn Mheg are terrible, and why Titania inflicts horror when it pops up in roulette. Oh, you mean having to like, do WoL before you move on to EW after a boost? I don't think the player will have to; Syrcus Trench is basically the front door of ShB.

Imagine throwing down the FF14 base-game price plus Shadowbringers cost without any idea of whether you'll like the game, then throwing down money to skip leveling, then throwing down money to skip all of the quests in the game, and then not even reading your tooltips or trying to play the game competently. I fucking hate whales.

 

[Agarathium1066]

FINAL FANTASY XIV Job Level-Boost and Scenario Skip Item Guide

An overview of the job level-boost and scenario skip items for FINAL FANTASY XIV.

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Pretty sure you already boost right up to 70 with story skips, and the job skips are all 70. The telltale is a full set of scaevan with an alliance ring. It's why Holminster Switch and Dohn Mheg are terrible, and why Titania inflicts horror when it pops up in roulette. Oh, you mean having to like, do WoL before you move on to EW after a boost? I don't think the player will have to; Syrcus Trench is basically the front door of ShB.

I mean the WoL as in the Seat of Sacrifice which is required to continue on in the story. I'm being a little vague on it to avoid too much spoiling, Seat of Sacrifice slaps a whole lotta new players, especially boosted ones.

I haven't boosted a character for a long while so I outright forgot that you can get right to SHB. Thanks for the reminder.

Edit: I'm stupid and hit post early.

 

[John Titor]

So is it common for boosters to go straight for the latest content? Do they know or did someone tell them that older content is still valid?

 

[Zilortha]

So is it common for boosters to go straight for the latest content? Do they know or did someone tell them that older content is still valid?

I've played this game for years now, and I've never encountered actual boosters until recently. Job-skips? Sure. We made fun of those people because they always ended up sucking at their job anyways, but I've never met anyone who would admit to skipping the story. This is uncharted territory.
I'd assume if they're coming from WoW though, that current-content-only mindset will prevail.