US Ammunition shelves bare as U.S. gun sales continue to soar - Chris Rock's joke about bullet control came true

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SEATTLE (AP) — The COVID-19 pandemic, coupled with record sales of firearms, has fueled a shortage of ammunition in the United States that’s impacting law enforcement agencies, people seeking personal protection, recreational shooters and hunters -- and could deny new gun owners the practice they need to handle their weapons safely.

Manufacturers say they’re producing as much ammunition as they can, but many gun store shelves are empty and prices keep rising. Ammunition imports are way up, but at least one U.S. manufacturer is exporting ammo. All while the pandemic, social unrest and a rise in violent crime have prompted millions to buy guns for protection or to take up shooting for sport.

“We have had a number of firearms instructors cancel their registration to our courses because their agency was short on ammo or they were unable to find ammo to purchase,” said Jason Wuestenberg, executive director of the National Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors Association.

Doug Tangen, firearms instructor at the Washington State Criminal Justice Training Commission, the police academy for the state, said the academy also has had trouble obtaining ammo.

“A few months ago, we were at a point where our shelves were nearly empty of 9mm ammunition,” he said. In response, instructors took conservation steps like reducing the number of shots fired per drill, which got them through several months until fresh supplies arrived, Tangen said.

Officer Larry Hadfield, a spokesman for the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, said his department also has been affected by the shortage. “We have made efforts to conserve ammunition when possible,” he said.

The National Shooting Sports Foundation, an industry trade group, says more than 50 million people participate in shooting sports in the U.S. and estimates that 20 million guns were sold last year, with 8 million of those sales made by first-time buyers.

“When you talk about all these people buying guns, it really has an impact on people buying ammunition,” spokesman Mark Oliva said. ”If you look at 8.4 million gun buyers and they all want to buy one box with 50 rounds, that’s going to be 420 million rounds.”

The FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System database also documented an increase in sales: In 2010, there were 14.4 million background checks for gun purchases. That jumped to almost 39.7 million in 2020 and to 22.2 million just through June 2021 alone.

The actual number of guns sold could be much higher since multiple firearms can be linked to a single background check. No data is available for ammunition because sales are not regulated and no license is required to sell it.

As the pandemic raced across the country in early 2020, the resulting lockdown orders and cutbacks on police response sowed safety fears, creating an “overwhelming demand” for both guns and ammo, Oliva said. Factories continued to produce ammunition, but sales far exceeded the amount that could be shipped, he said.

“Where there is an increased sense of instability, fear and insecurity, more people will purchase guns,” said Ari Freilich of the Gifford Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

As supplies dwindled, Feilich said, some gun owners began stockpiling ammo.

“Early on in the pandemic, we saw people hoarding toilet paper, disinfectant, and now it’s ammo,” he said.

Wustenberg emphasized the danger in first-time gun buyers not being able to practice using their new weapons.

Going to the gun range entails more than trying to hit a target, he said. It’s where shooters learn fundamental skills like always pointing their guns in a safe direction and keeping their fingers off the trigger until they’re ready to fire.

“It’s that old adage: Just because you buy a guitar doesn’t mean you’re a guitar player,” Wustenberg said. “Some have the misconception of ‘I shot this target 5 yards away and did just fine so I’m OK if someone breaks into my house.’ You’ve got to go out and practice with it.”

The U.S. military is not affected by the shortage because the Army produces ammunition for all branches of the military at six sites across the country, according to Justine Barati, spokesperson for the U.S. Army Joint Munitions Command.

The U.S. shooting team, which won four medals at the Tokyo Olympics, also had the ammo needed to train thanks to a commitment from sponsors, but membership and junior programs have struggled, said Matt Suggs, chief executive officer for USA Shooting.

The U.S. Biathlon team, training for the 2022 Winter Olympics in February, also has been supplied with ammo from its sponsor, Lapua, made in Finland. But local clubs face shortages, said Max Cobb, president of U.S. Biathlon Association.

Jason Vanderbrink, a vice president at Vista Outdoor, which owns the Federal, CCI, Speer and Remington ammunition brands, said the companies are shipping ammo as fast as they can make it.

“I’m tired of reading the misinformation on the internet right now about us not trying to service the demand that we’re experiencing,” he said in a YouTube video produced for customers aimed at quashing speculation suggesting otherwise.

Imports of ammunition from Russia, South Korea, the European Union and others were up 225% over the past two years, according to an analysis by Panjiva Inc., which independently tracks global trade. But at least some U.S.-made ammo is heading out of the country.

Winchester has logged 107 shipments since January 2020, according to Panjiva. Most went to Australia to fulfill a contract Winchester secured with NIOA, the country’s largest small-arms supplier. Nigel Everingham, NIOA’s chief operating officer, said he could not disclose how much ammo Winchester is supplying.

A few shipments also went to Belgium and Israel.

Meanwhile, most of the ammunition pictured on the website for Champion’s Choice, a gun store in LaVergne, Tennessee, is listed as “out of stock.”

“We keep ammo on order but we’re not sure when it’s going to come available, “sales manager Kyle Hudgens said. “It does put us in a bad position with our customers. They’re asking what the deal is.”

And Bryan Lookabaugh at Renton Fish & Game’s skeet and trap range in Renton, Washington -- where shooters try to hit discs flying at 35 to 70 mph -- said the limited availability means fewer people show up for shooting practice and some couldn’t participate in a recent competition.

“We have not had a full shipment in a year,” he said.

Duane Hendrix, the range master at the Seattle Police Athletic Association, a police and civilian gun range in Tukwila, Washington, said he now limits ammo sales to two boxes per customer.

“I’ve never seen anything like it before,” Hendrix said. “There’s stuff we can’t get, especially rifle ammo. If you don’t have ammo for your customers, there’s no point in having your doors open.”
 
Is the Ruger Mini 30 decent?
No - everything I've heard is that it's unreliable, and that's even when you use the proprietary factory mags.

Really, 7.62x39 doesn't like to cooperate with rifles it wasn't originally designed for. If you want to scratch that Russian itch, go with an SKS or an AK. And if you get an AK, try to aim for an actual import first, a parts kit build second if you can't get an import, and a US-made AK if all other options fail.
 
No - everything I've heard is that it's unreliable, and that's even when you use the proprietary factory mags.

Really, 7.62x39 doesn't like to cooperate with rifles it wasn't originally designed for. If you want to scratch that Russian itch, go with an SKS or an AK. And if you get an AK, try to aim for an actual import first, a parts kit build second if you can't get an import, and a US-made AK if all other options fail.
Problem is I live in California and Kalashnikov USA does not sell a Californian compliment version.

There is basically century arms and one other company that sells AKs out here.
 
anecdotally I've seen the prices on ammo 'deals' online (usually 1000 round cases) going down. Not to where they were before coof but in the right direction down from the asshole-rending prices of a couple months ago. The lesson with stuff like this is always buy low and sit on it when it's high (or sell if you feel really squirrely) and I sure hope people have realized it now. Might help for next time.

Probably not.
 
No - everything I've heard is that it's unreliable, and that's even when you use the proprietary factory mags.

Really, 7.62x39 doesn't like to cooperate with rifles it wasn't originally designed for. If you want to scratch that Russian itch, go with an SKS or an AK. And if you get an AK, try to aim for an actual import first, a parts kit build second if you can't get an import, and a US-made AK if all other options fail.
Replace the firing pin so it will fire russian primers and they become very reliable.
 
Couple of thousands of bullets is like, 4-5 range trips. I think you need at least 100,000 rounds to start worrying about ammo going bad.
Surplus ammunition from world war one is still useable today. Ammo will last a lifetime. you only get problems if it is stored in a very hot and wet environ. Thats why you avoid surplus Turkish 8mm Mauser and Ethiopian surplus ammo.
 
Surplus ammunition from world war one is still useable today. Ammo will last a lifetime. you only get problems if it is stored in a very hot and wet environ. Thats why you avoid surplus Turkish 8mm Mauser and Ethiopian surplus ammo.
Yep, had a crate of Czech ammo from the early 50's and it was still good as new.

Centerfire ammo can last a long time in a good environment. Rimfire on the other hand can go to shit faster than centerfire. The seal between case and projectile isn't as good, and the wax coating comes off with time, allowing moisture from the air to get in easier.

Cheap stuff like Rem Golden Bullets has the occasional round where the bullet rotates freely in the case, so those would definitely let some moisture in over time.
 
Yep, had a crate of Czech ammo from the early 50's and it was still good as new.

Centerfire ammo can last a long time in a good environment. Rimfire on the other hand can go to shit faster than centerfire. The seal between case and projectile isn't as good, and the wax coating comes off with time, allowing moisture from the air to get in easier.

Cheap stuff like Rem Golden Bullets has the occasional round where the bullet rotates freely in the case, so those would definitely let some moisture in over time.
The only thing you usually need to concern yourself with older combloc surplus ammo is the corrosive primers. Otherwise, that stuff lasts forever, even if it smells like cat piss when you shoot it.
 
Mostly for training because it's cheap and all the skills transfer to larger calibers. Then for hunting small game, then plinking, in that order.

There's also rimfire rounds like .17 HMR which carry a bit more of a punch than the ol' .22LR.
Is rimfire cheap because it's easier to manufacture?
 
Surplus ammunition from world war one is still useable today.
And Kentucky Ballistics almost got killed firing some old 50 BMG SLAP tracer from the 90's.

Shooting old ammo should be approached the same way as eating old MRE's. There is a bit of danger there. Corrosion. Primer sensitivity. Squibs. Chemical degradation of the powder. It most certainly isn't as good as new stuff and should never be approached that way.

That said if you want to have a mountain of that old shit in your garage waiting for when the Chinese commie UN black helicopters come to take your women and guns and Jesus figurines, fine. It sitting around forever far away from a firing range is the best place for it.
 
Yep, had a crate of Czech ammo from the early 50's and it was still good as new.

Centerfire ammo can last a long time in a good environment. Rimfire on the other hand can go to shit faster than centerfire. The seal between case and projectile isn't as good, and the wax coating comes off with time, allowing moisture from the air to get in easier.

Cheap stuff like Rem Golden Bullets has the occasional round where the bullet rotates freely in the case, so those would definitely let some moisture in over time.
I was wondering when I opened my box of 22lr, it was fucking oily but fired fine.
 
And Kentucky Ballistics almost got killed firing some old 50 BMG SLAP tracer from the 90's.

Shooting old ammo should be approached the same way as eating old MRE's. There is a bit of danger there. Corrosion. Primer sensitivity. Squibs. Chemical degradation of the powder. It most certainly isn't as good as new stuff and should never be approached that way.

That said if you want to have a mountain of that old shit in your garage waiting for when the Chinese commie UN black helicopters come to take your women and guns and Jesus figurines, fine. It sitting around forever far away from a firing range is the best place for it.
Fun fact, Most SLAP rounds are gulf war surplus, and spent a good amount of time in the Iragi heat! The plastic sabot is known to be fragile and probably allows moisture and debris in to the powder further destabilizing the round.

whereas belts of .50bmg from WW2 are still being issued out for use in the military. Storage condition is everything.
 
That amazing feeling when you're the only guy in town that buys .41 mag and .30-40 Krag
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Fun fact, Most SLAP rounds are gulf war surplus, and spent a good amount of time in the Iragi heat! The plastic sabot is known to be fragile and probably allows moisture and debris in to the powder further destabilizing the round.
More importantly, aren't cartridges sold as 'SLAP rounds' generally just manufactured in someone's backyard from pulled milslurp SLAP bullets (or their own experiments in plastic casting)?
 
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