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[Sealbaby]

all I can say is I fucking hate troons.

I don't hate them. Any animus I had to AGP troons collectively I lost when I read Anne Lawerence's 'Men Trapped in Men's Bodies' and realised how seriously and irrevocably some wires got crossed in their brains, and how ill-equipped they are to have relationships with anyone except people like themselves:

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"One informant described masochistic fantasies during adolescence involving dis-memberment and dehumanization — fantasizing herself as a female farm animal being butchered. These fantasies later evolved to emphasize having female genitals: I grew up on a farm. I was masturbating by around age 13 or 14. My first fantasy was that I was a cow and my penis was the teat of a female cow. Then I imagined I was a mother sheep and I ended up getting slaughtered, because animals on farms get that done to them. I saw myself as all these pieces of meat. I thought this probably was not a very good thing to fantasize about. I developed the fantasy about having a vagina, which still remains. The evolution of this informant’s fantasies provides an example of an interesting phenomenon in which very distressing or ego-dystonic paraphilic fantasies some- times become superseded by less distressing, more acceptable ones."

I imagine if that was me, believing that my horrific sexual fantasies were actually caused deep down by my 'being a woman' would be very tempting, if just so I could feel more clean and normal.

 

[Deepland Bystander]

I don't hate them. Any animus I had to AGP troons collectively I lost when I read Anne Lawerence's 'Men Trapped in Men's Bodies' and realised how seriously and irrevocably some wires got crossed in their brains, and how ill-equipped they are to have relationships with anyone except people like themselves:

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"One informant described masochistic fantasies during adolescence involving dis-memberment and dehumanization — fantasizing herself as a female farm animal being butchered. These fantasies later evolved to emphasize having female genitals: I grew up on a farm. I was masturbating by around age 13 or 14. My first fantasy was that I was a cow and my penis was the teat of a female cow. Then I imagined I was a mother sheep and I ended up getting slaughtered, because animals on farms get that done to them. I saw myself as all these pieces of meat. I thought this probably was not a very good thing to fantasize about. I developed the fantasy about having a vagina, which still remains. The evolution of this informant’s fantasies provides an example of an interesting phenomenon in which very distressing or ego-dystonic paraphilic fantasies some- times become superseded by less distressing, more acceptable ones."

I imagine if I was a male person, believing that my horrific sexual fantasies were actually caused deep down by my 'being a woman' would be very tempting, if just so I could feel more clean and normal.

One thing about this book is the writer was a total pervert and a sexual assaulter. Yet Ray Blanchard worked with him to affirm him as a troon. Self-Aware or not, this guy delusion is totally enabled like the cows here and no one really tried to find a way to cure him of the fetish itself. They let him be 'Anne' because they think he's got no hope or else he'll go Buffalo Bill skinning women.

Men trapped in men's bodies, but legally totally say he's a real and legit wahmen!

What a fucking hypocrite. This book is a sole reason why I hate Blanchard. Because he thought these AGP sickos should troon out.

 

[Lawrence of Algeria]

I don't hate them. Any animus I had to AGP troons collectively I lost when I read Anne Lawerence's 'Men Trapped in Men's Bodies' and realised how seriously and irrevocably some wires got crossed in their brains, and how ill-equipped they are to have relationships with anyone except people like themselves:

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"One informant described masochistic fantasies during adolescence involving dis-memberment and dehumanization — fantasizing herself as a female farm animal being butchered. These fantasies later evolved to emphasize having female genitals: I grew up on a farm. I was masturbating by around age 13 or 14. My first fantasy was that I was a cow and my penis was the teat of a female cow. Then I imagined I was a mother sheep and I ended up getting slaughtered, because animals on farms get that done to them. I saw myself as all these pieces of meat. I thought this probably was not a very good thing to fantasize about. I developed the fantasy about having a vagina, which still remains. The evolution of this informant’s fantasies provides an example of an interesting phenomenon in which very distressing or ego-dystonic paraphilic fantasies some- times become superseded by less distressing, more acceptable ones."

I imagine if that was me, believing that my horrific sexual fantasies were actually caused deep down by my 'being a woman' would be very tempting, if just so I could feel more clean and normal.

I hate the ones that go around saying it's a normal thing and not a mental illness. And especially the ones that spread it among kids. And there's a lot of both.

It's an imaginary thing.

There is no "gender" that's distinct from sex, that's also an imaginary thing. Gender is a synonym for sex.

In my language there isn't even any distinction between sex and "gender". It's made up Western bullshit.

 

[Sealbaby]

Men trapped in men's bodies, but the law totally say he's a real and legit wahmen!

This book is a sole reason why I hate Blanchard. Because he thought these AGP sickos should troon out.

I wonder if the AGPs are psychologically impelled to troon out as much as they possibly can by a need to appear clean, pure, and sane within themselves and to each other. The more they are 'validated' as 'women', the less contaminated and broken I imagine they feel in themselves and appear to each other. puffs pipe

Spoiler: The duality of tran

 

[Oliver Onions]

Found Jaclyn Moore (main twitter) alt 'it's ma'am' account where he posts when he gets misgendered.

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The pink mask is a 'gender signifier' for female, but your linebacker male build isnt a signifier for male? hmm..

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He said it's ma'am each time she said sir. She said sir 3x. Front desk lady is based.
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https://twitter.com/MisgenderedFits/with_replies

Bitch no amount of makeup, spinny dresses, pink masks and 'its ma'am' corrections will make people think you are female. At least lose some weight instead of walking around wearing a Forever21 crop top with your beer belly hanging out.

My biggest takeaway from this list of Real & Happened™ encounters is how is he ending up in so many situations where gendered language is being used?

Maybe it's an American thing, but in my daily interactions in shops, restaurants, work, going to the gym...any activity I can think of, I never get called sir or anything else because it's not necessary.

People either use my name or nothing, since it's already obvious I'm the one being addressed because the motherfucker is looking at me when they speak and there's no one else there.

 

[Lawrence of Algeria]

My biggest takeaway from this list of Real & Happened™ encounters is how is he ending up in so many situations where gendered language is being used?

Maybe it's an American thing, but in my daily interactions in shops, restaurants, work, going to the gym...any activity I can think of, I never get called sir or anything else because it's not necessary.

People either use my name or nothing, since it's already obvious I'm the one being addressed because the motherfucker is looking at me when they speak and there's no one else there.

Trannies really need that validation from being called "ma'am". Unfortunately for them nobody falls for it.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

Anyone else think Pride month is going to be more combative, or at least more in-your-face than ever before? With the discourse this month about sex as Pride etc., plus Pride basically being missed last year as it took a backseat to BLM, it just feels more tense to me this time around.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

It's an imaginary thing.

There is no "gender" that's distinct from sex, that's also an imaginary thing. Gender is a synonym for sex.

Gender roles are distinct from sex, but I've never seen TERFs ever post anything in support of men doing things that are traditionally women's gender roles, soooooooooooooo

 

[Help Me Move This Table]

I liked reading the “Men’s Bodies” thing because 1. They basically all write in the exact same banal, self-pitying & self-conscious voice and 2. So many of those stories were about masturbating into personal belongings of moms & sisters and I find it remarkable how un-remarked-upon it is. It’s the equivalent of a book of girls sharing that they used to stick daddy or brothers toothbrush down their asscracks & waddle around the house with their manly lil toothbrush tails every chance they could get. No biggie! As if this means something about their very souls beyond having no boundaries and possessing self-centeredness in the extreme.

 

[Syntaxion]

Anyone else think Pride month is going to be more combative, or at least more in-your-face than ever before? With the discourse this month about sex as Pride etc., plus Pride basically being missed last year as it took a backseat to BLM, it just feels more tense to me this time around.

I think it can go either way. Fact of the matter is, things aren't progressing very fast. It's been 6 years since that Jenner dude was on the cover of that magazine. 6 years since nationwide gay marriage. But since then? Things progressed faster from 2009 to 2015, than from 2015 to now. We're still discussing if trannies should be in womens sport, or in womens bathrooms, or if we should castrate children. And all in all, the public doesn't seem very in favour of it.

Combine that with certain individuals and corporations getting far more daring than they used to be years ago, from the whole "show children kink" or showing tranny kids in childrens cartoons, etc etc etc. These things would've been unthinkable years ago.

Things are more tense, because more people know about these things now, and acceptence of it all is going down.

Either they will go full steam ahead, and the next month/couple of years, will be so degenerate and absurd, we'll look at 2021 like it was 1950.

Or there's another option, they'll slow things down to bring acceptence back up before pushing the line of ethics and morals again.

I can't imagine any LGBT organizations or activist looking at the last couple of years and thinking "yeah, everyone is still on our side despite how much we're pushing!"

So everyone is tense this month. How extreme will things get? Chances are, they know that and will make this month as milquetoast family friendly as possible. In order to discredit the right-winged naysayers who oppose them. It would certainly work imo. Imagine if some LGBT group openly speaks against showing kids sexual shit, or openly speaks against some of the more extreme talking points people push like castrating kids. Their acceptence would almost instantly come back up, I think.

Or they'll go full-steam ahead, but given that LGBT acceptence is going down, it'd would be suicide if they did. Then again, we're talking about trannies here lmao.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Pride month is going to be about trannies. All trannies. Nothing but trannies. Did you forget that trannies existed? Globalhomo hasn't.

 

[Oliver Onions]

Gender roles are distinct from sex, but I've never seen TERFs ever post anything in support of men doing things that are traditionally women's gender roles, soooooooooooooo

Why should they? Conversely, I've never seen a TERF say men shouldn't be nurses, hairdressers, caregivers etc and I doubt men doing these jobs care much either way what TERFs or anyone else thinks. If it pays the bills who gives a fuck.

This obsessive pre-occupation with other people's perception of you is retarded as fuck and the reason we're in this mess to begin with.

 

[Unpaid Emotional Labourer]

Why should they? Conversely, I've never seen a TERF say men shouldn't be nurses, hairdressers, caregivers etc and I doubt men doing these jobs care much either way what TERFs or anyone else thinks. If it pays the bills who gives a fuck.

This obsessive pre-occupation with other people's perception of you is retarded as fuck and the reason we're in this mess to begin with.

Yeah I seriously doubt the terves would agitate against anyone’s Nigel having a trad female job, or doing trad female unpaid labor like housework and remembering to send his mom a card on her birthday etc. They’d just doubt it was true lol.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Why should they? Conversely, I've never seen a TERF say men shouldn't be nurses, hairdressers, caregivers etc and I doubt men doing these jobs care much either way what TERFs or anyone else thinks. If it pays the bills who gives a fuck.

There were a whole lot of comments on /r/GC about how men shouldn't be OB/GYNs. It was a bit weird considering I know a lot of patients who actually prefer male OB/GYNs.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Why should they? Conversely, I've never seen a TERF say men shouldn't be nurses, hairdressers, caregivers etc and I doubt men doing these jobs care much either way what TERFs or anyone else thinks. If it pays the bills who gives a fuck.

This obsessive pre-occupation with other people's perception of you is retarded as fuck and the reason we're in this mess to begin with.

There were a whole lot of comments on /r/GC about how men shouldn't be OB/GYNs. It was a bit weird considering I know a lot of patients who actually prefer male OB/GYNs.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

She started testosterone at 15 according to the last image, and continued for 4 years. No sympathy from me there.

My bad it was blockers at 13. Still; 15 is way too young and my point still stands: don't blame children. At 15 she was still a minor.

 

[Oliver Onions]

There were a whole lot of comments on /r/GC about how men shouldn't be OB/GYNs. It was a bit weird considering I know a lot of patients who actually prefer male OB/GYNs.

To be honest I can kind of get that --I'd feel weird about a lady doctor handling my junk-- but at the end of the day I trust these people to be professionals and don't consider myself such a hot property that everyone wants a go.

Yes well done @TaimuRadiu I see you've learned well from the troons who think 1-in-40,000 birth defects are proof that biological sex is a social construct. Now address my second point of why men in these jobs should give a fuck when it's clear women in general don't care or prefer them to be the ones doing the job.

 

[Unpaid Emotional Labourer]

Hmm...but OB/GYN isn’t a trad female job. Being a doctor of any sort is a trad male job, if anything. Too much money and prestige, trad female jobs are devalued, both outside and inside the home.

A more relevant example would be, I’m pretty sure you could find plenty of folks arguing against men being preschool teachers, or working directly with children too young to really understand or report abuse. That is a trad female job, and a man doing that job is one that would alarm a lot of people, not just terves.

I ended up with the male OB/GYN at the practice I went to because when I stated my preference for a scheduled c-section, the lady asked me if it was because I’d been molested. Lol no I was not molested, I’m just a planner. The guy was like, ok great, I can fit you in on this particular Friday when you will be exactly 38 weeks (because of travel I knew the exact date of conception) before I leave for my son’s destination wedding in Bali. Sold!

 

[Witthel]

There were a whole lot of comments on /r/GC about how men shouldn't be OB/GYNs. It was a bit weird considering I know a lot of patients who actually prefer male OB/GYNs.

@TaimuRadiu There's a huge difference between men who become gynos because they want to help women with their health and clearly mentally ill men who want to become gynos just so they can touch women without getting arrested for it.

 

[ghost_ghost]

Why should they? Conversely, I've never seen a TERF say men shouldn't be nurses, hairdressers, caregivers etc and I doubt men doing these jobs care much either way what TERFs or anyone else thinks. If it pays the bills who gives a fuck.

This obsessive pre-occupation with other people's perception of you is retarded as fuck and the reason we're in this mess to begin with.

The whole TERF position could be summed up as ‘there’s no magic gender juice, you can do any job you like, it doesn’t change your sex’.