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When was the last time RvB was good?

  • Before RWBY

    Votos: 61 62.9%
  • Season 10

    Votos: 22 22.7%
  • Season 11

    Votos: 0 0.0%
  • Season 12

    Votos: 1 1.0%
  • Season 13

    Votos: 10 10.3%
  • Season 14

    Votos: 2 2.1%
  • Before RvB Zero

    Votos: 1 1.0%

  • Total de votantes
    97
  • Encuesta cerrada .
Jack getting shit on my Geoff and Gus was the highlight of early days Drunk Tank. One of the greatest DT moments came from shitting on Jack, second only to Burnie screaming at Geoff about inventing a time machine, going back in time and killing Alexander Graham Bell because he was fucking around with the phone instead of hanging it up and taking out the batteries.
I need to go back and give those a re-listen. Can't think of many highlights but this one was always a favorite

 
-Trevor describes Chloe as "queen of the memes"
This is far and away the worst thing you can say to describe someone. Especially when it comes from Trevor of all people.
-Trevor describes Achievement Hunter as "unrecognizable in a good way"
They only think it's good because their tiny social bubble will blindly reinforce that viewpoint no matter what happens. They think everything they do is now affecting change in the piece of society they are a part of.
-Jack pretends that Rooster Teeth has influence in "the gaming world" and says that it is neat
This is exactly what I meant above. Jack doesn't realize the days of being a massive influence on gaming are all gone and past. RvB was their one way ticket to gaming prominence, and when that slumped, their influence eroded away quickly.
-Chloe says she started streaming because "it just looked fun lol"
I actually like this answer because that's why most people do it. She seems like she's torn between genuine answers and 'interesting' meme answers.
-Jack finds does not like 3 hour long movies and says that they are lazy
Jack is a simpleton with no regard for the actual quality of a product. LotR is unironically one of the greatest cinematic achievements of all time, and saying "lol tl;dw" as a criticism is unbelievably idiotic, even for Jack.
-Trevor casually makes fun of Jack for mispronouncing a word
I thought we weren't supposed to do that anymore? Didn't Trevor get nice and butthurt over it last week?
-Jack is working on something for Annual Pass but says he can't talk about it but that he "can't wait to yell from the rooftops about it"
Why do they always do this? It's like a canned response at this point.
"Oh wow this new thing is so great guys I can't share anything but I just want to talk all about it!!!"
Cancelled in 2 months
Miyazaki talked about this theory 30 years ago where the new people coming into the scene start as fans and have no other life experience which dilutes the product because instead of basing shows off their own experiences, they're trying to mimic what they thought was good when they were younger with severely diminishing returns.
Hey, I'm just going to give a little insight here. Miyazaki is a fantastic director who not only has an amazing creative vision, but he can also tell a wonderful story and merge together those two things that often get lost one way or another. However, he is a completely and unabashedly braindead judge of societal trends in this field. Miyazaki was born during ww2, but he was only 4 when the Japanese surrendered, and even then his family was rich before and after because they made planes. So this very wealthy kid grows up loving manga, but eventually he ends up watching some anime in high school that makes him want to do that instead. So what does he do? He goes to college for 4 years and learns how to tell stories and animate, and then he graduates and is immediately picked up by Toei animation.

So why am I saying this? He is literally no different than the people he criticizes right now. He doesn't have any real world experience, yet he always speaks as if he himself has done a load of things besides draw for a living. You don't need to have shed blood, sweat, and tears to have a good idea. He just wears nostalgia goggles and believes everything used to be good and now everything is bad. I would advise never listening to Miyazaki when he isn't talking about how to specifically merge your narrative with your creative vision, because when he talks about anything else, he reveals just how biased and out of touch he really is.
 
Here's the thing; RWBY is one of the very few IPs they really have, and one of the few that enjoyed any real success. Warner itself has cared little about the property outside of a few comics (like the currently running RWBY DC comic). But its the only property that Rooster Teeth can really fall back on that isn't dependent on onscreen personalities or someone else's IP (like Red vs. Blue). For there to be a chance in hell of an actual sale happening, RWBY would have to be part of the package, as the actual studio doesn't have much going for it.
Here's the other thing: If RWBY were to be part of a sale, what's the chances of the new company doing something like bringing in their own VAs to replace the current cast or doing a straight up reboot, even if a retool could be so drastic that you could end up just creating your own IP with the alterations you've made?
 
I need to go back and give those a re-listen. Can't think of many highlights but this one was always a favorite

https://youtube.com/watch?v=XqtRVSRq3wE

fuck that clip brings back memories. It's so depressing that the culture went from that to the bland, scrubbed, boring one they have now. I get the same feeling with the Yogscast as well, which is an interesting parallel. The good times consisted of friends fucking around with new internet content, the success is built off of that casual and fun atmosphere, and then the success brings unmitigated growth and unnecessary business moves to "legitimize" the brand, which brings a corporate mindset and a corporate atmosphere. Videos are mass produced slop, usually consisting of the same 3 games played over and over, the banter and jokes obviously forced. The podcast becomes an hour a week of plastered grins and monotonous topics. The social media of the personalities involved become PR outlets. The people themselves become public faces of a corporation...

How depressing.
 
Hey, I'm just going to give a little insight here. Miyazaki is a fantastic director who not only has an amazing creative vision, but he can also tell a wonderful story and merge together those two things that often get lost one way or another. However, he is a completely and unabashedly braindead judge of societal trends in this field. Miyazaki was born during ww2, but he was only 4 when the Japanese surrendered, and even then his family was rich before and after because they made planes. So this very wealthy kid grows up loving manga, but eventually he ends up watching some anime in high school that makes him want to do that instead. So what does he do? He goes to college for 4 years and learns how to tell stories and animate, and then he graduates and is immediately picked up by Toei animation.

So why am I saying this? He is literally no different than the people he criticizes right now. He doesn't have any real world experience, yet he always speaks as if he himself has done a load of things besides draw for a living. You don't need to have shed blood, sweat, and tears to have a good idea. He just wears nostalgia goggles and believes everything used to be good and now everything is bad. I would advise never listening to Miyazaki when he isn't talking about how to specifically merge your narrative with your creative vision, because when he talks about anything else, he reveals just how biased and out of touch he really is.
I agree Miyazaki is not the best person to throw stones. But I only believe he is wrong when he is talking about a lack of "experience". He should have said a lack of "interest" or "passion" outside of anime. You can see how passionate and interested Miyazaki is about Japanese history, planes and even religion in his own stories despite the fact that he doesn't have much professional experiences in those areas.

The issue with a lot of the newer generation of manga authors and animators is that they are only interested and passionate about anime. They don't really have anything else to draw upon for inspiration and thus create a diluted copy of other anime they liked.

Obviously he is generalizing far too much and there are great new age authors and animators who do draw upon their own interests and passions to create great works of art that Miyazaki never bothered to actually find. However, he is correct for a worrying number of these authors and animators.
 
I agree Miyazaki is not the best person to throw stones. But I only believe he is wrong when he is talking about a lack of "experience". He should have said a lack of "interest" or "passion" outside of anime. You can see how passionate and interested Miyazaki is about Japanese history, planes and even religion in his own stories despite the fact that he doesn't have much professional experiences in those areas.

The issue with a lot of the newer generation of manga authors and animators is that they are only interested and passionate about anime. They don't really have anything else to draw upon for inspiration and thus create a diluted copy of other anime they liked.

Obviously he is generalizing far too much and there are great new age authors and animators who do draw upon their own interests and passions to create great works of art that Miyazaki never bothered to actually find. However, he is correct for a worrying number of these authors and animators.
I think this can very well be observed in the deluge of isekai anime being released where they could all just as well be copies of each other. It's always guilds, quests, demon kings, etc. etc.
Not that western entertainment is much better, it all just seems to be people just copying what came before with no original thought of their own, but it has to be soul crushing for old people in the industry having to deal with people who just want to tread on familiar ground and make stuff that could just as well be lifted from a generic RPG game
 
I think this can very well be observed in the deluge of isekai anime being released where they could all just as well be copies of each other. It's always guilds, quests, demon kings, etc. etc.
Not that western entertainment is much better, it all just seems to be people just copying what came before with no original thought of their own, but it has to be soul crushing for old people in the industry having to deal with people who just want to tread on familiar ground and make stuff that could just as well be lifted from a generic RPG game
I think what's more funny is how a lot of isekai and even some fantasy books are PAINFULLY copying the idea of Sword Art Online, with the inclusion of people having menus to open and stats to build. Like it's funny at first, but now it's painfully awkward to see it's inclusion.
 
I think this can very well be observed in the deluge of isekai anime being released where they could all just as well be copies of each other. It's always guilds, quests, demon kings, etc. etc.
Not that western entertainment is much better, it all just seems to be people just copying what came before with no original thought of their own, but it has to be soul crushing for old people in the industry having to deal with people who just want to tread on familiar ground and make stuff that could just as well be lifted from a generic RPG game
And if they saw RWBY....what would these people say?
 
The issue with a lot of the newer generation of manga authors and animators is that they are only interested and passionate about anime. They don't really have anything else to draw upon for inspiration and thus create a diluted copy of other anime they liked.
I believe at this juncture we will only devolve into opinion. Because I don't believe you need to be passionate at all to create something good. It helps sure, but I don't believe creating a great experience just for the sake of good writing/good animation and no other 'passion' will somehow inevitably end up a lesser product. The real reason we see all the bad anime/manga is because access to the industry is easier than ever as both the producer and the consumer. Most consumers just want to be entertained by a flashy product, whilst most producers want to make a living selling them that product. Whether that product is good or bad is irrelevant to how the author/director came into the industry, or what they enjoy adjacent to it, but whether they are good storytellers. That's what I believe at least, as this is the realm of opinion with only tangentially related facts to back me up.

Regardless, this is pretty off topic at this point so I'll tie it into the RT animation department. Do you believe that RWBY will end in the future? Will it share the fate of RvB and become an animated corpse shambling around with loads of bankrupt creatives puppeteering it?
 
Hey, I'm just going to give a little insight here. Miyazaki is a fantastic director who not only has an amazing creative vision, but he can also tell a wonderful story and merge together those two things that often get lost one way or another. However, he is a completely and unabashedly braindead judge of societal trends in this field. Miyazaki was born during ww2, but he was only 4 when the Japanese surrendered, and even then his family was rich before and after because they made planes. So this very wealthy kid grows up loving manga, but eventually he ends up watching some anime in high school that makes him want to do that instead. So what does he do? He goes to college for 4 years and learns how to tell stories and animate, and then he graduates and is immediately picked up by Toei animation.

So why am I saying this? He is literally no different than the people he criticizes right now. He doesn't have any real world experience, yet he always speaks as if he himself has done a load of things besides draw for a living. You don't need to have shed blood, sweat, and tears to have a good idea. He just wears nostalgia goggles and believes everything used to be good and now everything is bad. I would advise never listening to Miyazaki when he isn't talking about how to specifically merge your narrative with your creative vision, because when he talks about anything else, he reveals just how biased and out of touch he really is.

Going a little off-topic here but Miyazaki is sort of like the Scorsese of anime. Yes he is one of the greats and his films are pretty damn good but no one person should be held up as the 'everything that comes out of their mouth is the golden truth'. Hell, Miyazaki himself was heavily against using cgi in his movies as he felt it removed the 'life' from the production but was more than happy to eat his own words when he saw how much time and effort it saved for his studio. And to be fair to the guy, while he doesn't have so much real world experiance, he has worked himself to the bone over some of his films while also being a pretty good boss to the people that work under him.

What his and a lot of the older animators have problems with now is sort of like the problem with western films, that only things that are seen as profitable will get backed by studios. The Demon Slayer movie was like the Avengers hitting Japanese cinemas so you can bet the studio heads are going to want another hit like that rather than more esoteric storylines. Especially now animation outsourcing, the older animators are worried about the loss of the industry to drive up profits. Sure there's always going to be the market for the Ghibli name, but it's the smaller studios that will suffer before any of the big names start to show the warning signs.

I think this can very well be observed in the deluge of isekai anime being released where they could all just as well be copies of each other. It's always guilds, quests, demon kings, etc. etc.
Not that western entertainment is much better, it all just seems to be people just copying what came before with no original thought of their own, but it has to be soul crushing for old people in the industry having to deal with people who just want to tread on familiar ground and make stuff that could just as well be lifted from a generic RPG game
The issue with a lot of the newer generation of manga authors and animators is that they are only interested and passionate about anime. They don't really have anything else to draw upon for inspiration and thus create a diluted copy of other anime they liked.

Obviously he is generalizing far too much and there are great new age authors and animators who do draw upon their own interests and passions to create great works of art that Miyazaki never bothered to actually find. However, he is correct for a worrying number of these authors and animators.

The big thing to underline here is that most anime you'll see is made for teens and young adults. Kids watch anime and adults read manga. It's the same reason why there's more animated kids shows on netflix than there are adult shows, kids watch more cartoons and it's the same here as it is over there.

And kids want what they related to and can understand. Why do you think 90% of anime protags are shut-ins that suddenly become very cool and get all the pussy in the online world? Or get superpowers or whatever. Because it appeals to that audience, sells merch and makes the studios money. And studios are tight-fisted as hell so they'll only back things which they're sure will get them good returns and so will bet on a likely winning horse. Apparently the isekai fad is already drying up and sports is now the upcoming shonen fad.

Not to shit on the mangakas because they literally eat the scraps off the floor in the hope their comic gets published let alone produced in an anime and even then if it doesn't do well they're likely to acheive moderate popularity at best and just about making ends meet. Much like with the 101 bean-mouth animations we get here there's 101 mangakas slaving away over their isekai comics but they atleast have a drive and a talent to draw their own shit instead of being bankrolled by your parents to play animator in San Fran until it goes bust after a season.

Movies used to be a different beast but with Demon Slayer doing so well, it's marking a big shift towards big and popular titles and away from what would be considered more 'indie' productions.

tl;dr anime is a bad way of measuring the creativity in Japan, read manga instead. Especially Sakamoto Days.

Regardless, this is pretty off topic at this point so I'll tie it into the RT animation department. Do you believe that RWBY will end in the future? Will it share the fate of RvB and become an animated corpse shambling around with loads of bankrupt creatives puppeteering it?

RWBY will end when either the money runs out or the company gets bored beating the dead horse. Considering they're animating in Austin which is expensive to live in, paying for at least half-decent animators as well as the mostly-useless talent that is roped to the property then it's likely far from cheap to produce such a cheap-looking show. RT will never release their website figures incase they have to admit people don't like half the shit they put out but more than likely it's about the only thing that's kept its audience over the past year as even RvB fans jumped ship after Zero and it's not as if Miles and Kerry will find anything better than this.
 
Regardless, this is pretty off topic at this point so I'll tie it into the RT animation department. Do you believe that RWBY will end in the future? Will it share the fate of RvB and become an animated corpse shambling around with loads of bankrupt creatives puppeteering it?
I think people believe that the show is already that zombie, and has been for a while.
 
Going a little off-topic here but Miyazaki is sort of like the Scorsese of anime. Yes he is one of the greats and his films are pretty damn good but no one person should be held up as the 'everything that comes out of their mouth is the golden truth'. Hell, Miyazaki himself was heavily against using cgi in his movies as he felt it removed the 'life' from the production but was more than happy to eat his own words when he saw how much time and effort it saved for his studio.
Until that came and bit him the ass, hard.
RWBY will end when either the money runs out or the company gets bored beating the dead horse. Considering they're animating in Austin which is expensive to live in, paying for at least half-decent animators as well as the mostly-useless talent that is roped to the property then it's likely far from cheap to produce such a cheap-looking show. RT will never release their website figures incase they have to admit people don't like half the shit they put out but more than likely it's about the only thing that's kept its audience over the past year as even RvB fans jumped ship after Zero and it's not as if Miles and Kerry will find anything better than this.
The thing is, they've already tried to do other things outside of RWBY, there was that shitty diary animation show that never seemed to go anywhere, and then they did animation for a Netflix only Transformers cartoon.
 

Yeah, another one of Miyazaki Jr's fuck ups alongside Tales from Earthsea. Though rather than full on CGIs films or the janky looking shit you see in AoT and Overlord, it's used better with backgrounds and some action sequences which are two of the more time-consuming parts of animation.

Don’t forget Gen Lock and Nomad of Nowhere.

What ever happened to that boring 'girl vlogging in her room' animation that they pretended everyone was hyped for?
 
Yeah, another one of Miyazaki Jr's fuck ups alongside Tales from Earthsea. Though rather than full on CGIs films or the janky looking shit you see in AoT and Overlord, it's used better with backgrounds and some action sequences which are two of the more time-consuming parts of animation.



What ever happened to that boring 'girl vlogging in her room' animation that they pretended everyone was hyped for?
“Recorded by Arizal” appears to have been a failed pilot of sorts.
 
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