🦊 Furry Furry Fandom and Drama General

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Leonard Helplessness dijo:
You approach a good point. From what I've seen, furries tend to abide by no sort of morality whatsoever, beyond trying to make whatever noise is popular. They put BLM and ACAB and flags and shit on their profiles because that's what's fashionable, and those symbols are discarded the instant they go out of vogue. Furries don't believe in any of that shit, beyond its utility for grouping them together when it's time to mob some lone outgrouper.

That's the other element of furry morality: They approach it like they're playing an MMORPG and the best way to get some morality is to find a world boss wandering around, isolate it, attack it through weight of numbers, and try to loot some morality points from its corpse before moving onto the next target. This shit doesn't actually matter to them except as a status symbol amongst themselves, and the fandom is so full of pedophiles that there'd be very little fandom left if it was completely purged. Furries only care about the pedophiles who get caught, because open pedophiles are making the fandom look bad and scaring away new recruits, especially the underage ones.
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This right here is why I couldn't care less about SpicyFurryTake's crocodile tears. Accounts like that exist solely to feed into furry cancel culture and make social justice zealots feel good about themselves. It's not at all about "making the fandom a better place" or "showing people the error of their ways"; it's about slaying a dragon and parading its severed head around town. I guarantee they wouldn't care if someone an hero'd and the pearl clutching is just a response to ensure they don't get cancelled themselves for gravedancing.
 
round robin dijo:
the pearl clutching is just a response to ensure they don't get cancelled themselves for gravedancing.
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That's part of it, yeah.

But to be honest, I'd rather they keep doing that anyway. Furries need to deal with their shit, and whether or not that's cancel culture or just someone trying to feel powerful by wielding the mob like a nightstick, anything that makes them feel uncomfortable is good in my book. The Burned Furs were lolcows in their own right, but I'll be damned if they haven't been vindicated a hundredfold ever since Twitter became a thing.
 
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This right here is why I couldn't care less about SpicyFurryTake's crocodile tears. Accounts like that exist solely to feed into furry cancel culture and make social justice zealots feel good about themselves. It's not at all about "making the fandom a better place" or "showing people the error of their ways"; it's about slaying a dragon and parading its severed head around town. I guarantee they wouldn't care if someone an hero'd and the pearl clutching is just a response to ensure they don't get cancelled themselves for gravedancing.
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Im willing to give him some more credit than that tbh
In the past hes shown willing to remove posts and congratulate people who have "improved" and thats not what you do if all you want is clout
Im willing to believe that he does generally think hes doing some good
 
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This right here is why I couldn't care less about SpicyFurryTake's crocodile tears. Accounts like that exist solely to feed into furry cancel culture and make social justice zealots feel good about themselves. It's not at all about "making the fandom a better place" or "showing people the error of their ways"; it's about slaying a dragon and parading its severed head around town. I guarantee they wouldn't care if someone an hero'd and the pearl clutching is just a response to ensure they don't get cancelled themselves for gravedancing.
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And I fucking guarantee you that if and when it becomes popular to go after a different sort of target than pedophiles, they'll go after that target just as fervently as they currently go after pedos, and they'll do so with the same motivations.

Furries lack any grasp on actual morality and few to none have any idea why pedophilia is a bad thing; pedos are just their soup of the day. It's fortunate that that's the twitter mobs' current target, but it's also essentially an accident; they don't understand why pedophilia is wrong and they're just trying to score points with each other through imitation. The only morality that they abide by at the end of the day is measured in likes and orgasms, so if it becomes more widely popular among them to hunt down, say, blue-jeans-wearers than to hunt down pedophiles, they'll pivot overnight to purging the evil colonist jeans-wearers instead.
 
I love how two faced they seem about it all because they wanted to draw this sort of thing.

https://archive.md/eIyyR here's their twitter face, the typical 'woe is me' spiel.

https://archive.md/e1hDd and here we have the 'fuck the haters I feel no shame' complete with a hugbox by other artists who I'm assuming make the same type of content.

What gets me is that they mentioned they were raped recently on their public facing twitter account but on their no longer SOOPER SEKRIT art account they're essentially going 'fuck the haters' instead of pausing for some self reflection. Takes all kinds I guess.
 
RembrandtCourage dijo:
I love how two faced they seem about it all because they wanted to draw this sort of thing.

https://archive.md/eIyyR here's their twitter face, the typical 'woe is me' spiel.

https://archive.md/e1hDd and here we have the 'fuck the haters I feel no shame' complete with a hugbox by other artists who I'm assuming make the same type of content.

What gets me is that they mentioned they were raped recently on their public facing twitter account but on their no longer SOOPER SEKRIT art account they're essentially going 'fuck the haters' instead of pausing for some self reflection. Takes all kinds I guess.
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i'm like 99% sure they're also a DID larper so i half expect them to come out with 'i didn't draw the porn, one of my homestuck alters did it'

it's funny with how they're handling this too, since a lot of big names in the industry have and do draw porn of series. rebecca sugar being one of them who used to draw ed edd n eddie porn before steven universe who's the only one i can think of off the top of my head. sucks they lost job opportunities' because of puritans but the chimp out is delicious
 
Lion dijo:
i'm like 99% sure they're also a DID larper so i half expect them to come out with 'i didn't draw the porn, one of my homestuck alters did it'

it's funny with how they're handling this too, since a lot of big names in the industry have and do draw porn of series. rebecca sugar being one of them who used to draw ed edd n eddie porn before steven universe who's the only one i can think of off the top of my head. sucks they lost job opportunities' because of puritans but the chimp out is delicious
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Honestly, in a situation like that you might as well just pre-empt the canceling and go "yeah, I drew weird porn. I needed the money. I stopped doing that, though". I've seen a few legit artists doing that.

Of course, you can't really pull that one off when you're drawing shit that's too weird. Dip too deep into fetish (or illegal) content, and it's going to stain you forever. As the meme goes...

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I know one of the outed artists was a popular Baraag artist who drew underage porn of Fosters Home characters, but I'm not sure about the other two. The Baraag person being the one who was leaked and lost their jobs working for folk like Vivziepop (Who has been under fire for drawing similar stuff in the past, so...).

It's not uncommon and it happens all the time, but it surprised me to hear that one of the folk who apparently killed themselves was only 15. I guess it's understandable that a lot of younger folk don't know how to handle this kind of thing and see their reputation online as the end-all of their social life.

SpicyFurryTakes saying "guys stop saying these people deserve to die" isn't going to change shit. If you put screenshots up to folk who gobble that stuff up, they are obviously going to foam over it, ESPECIALLY anything to do with cub/pedo stuff.
 
Yeah the one I linked to is the one fired by Viz. I understand coping mechanisms and all as well as doing commissions out of necessity but when you're bringing up 'a recent rape' in an attempt to garner sympathy then turn around and say you have no shame about the art... as the kids would say, 'that ain't a good look'.

As for that spicyfurry thing I think he's saying that as the token effort to avoid liability so in case someone tries to take him to task for it he can point to that and say 'hey I SAID don't do X but I can't control people' and have some kind of defense.

By the way is there also a way to preview your replies on this thing?
 
RembrandtCourage dijo:
Yeah the one I linked to is the one fired by Viz. I understand coping mechanisms and all as well as doing commissions out of necessity but when you're bringing up 'a recent rape' in an attempt to garner sympathy then turn around and say you have no shame about the art... as the kids would say, 'that ain't a good look'.

As for that spicyfurry thing I think he's saying that as the token effort to avoid liability so in case someone tries to take him to task for it he can point to that and say 'hey I SAID don't do X but I can't control people' and have some kind of defense.
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Yeah, I've seen enough creeps abusing it that I don't accept "coping mechanism" as an excuse for shitty behavior or disgusting kinks. If they can claim pedo or zoo shit is their "coping mechanism", then I can say mocking them ceaselessly is my coping mechanism for being traumatized by seeing their degeneracy in action.

RembrandtCourage dijo:
By the way is there also a way to preview your replies on this thing?
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Vault dijo:
I know one of the outed artists was a popular Baraag artist who drew underage porn of Fosters Home characters, but I'm not sure about the other two. The Baraag person being the one who was leaked and lost their jobs working for folk like Vivziepop (Who has been under fire for drawing similar stuff in the past, so...).

It's not uncommon and it happens all the time, but it surprised me to hear that one of the folk who apparently killed themselves was only 15. I guess it's understandable that a lot of younger folk don't know how to handle this kind of thing and see their reputation online as the end-all of their social life.

SpicyFurryTakes saying "guys stop saying these people deserve to die" isn't going to change shit. If you put screenshots up to folk who gobble that stuff up, they are obviously going to foam over it, ESPECIALLY anything to do with cub/pedo stuff.
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"I don't want you to die; I just want to destroy your entire life and ensure that you can never, ever rebuild it and that you will be forever penniless and alone and hated" does tend to ring pretty hollow, yes.
 
Someone who was sexually abused as a child created pedophilia catering content that breeds more pedophiles to go after more children, and then killed themselves when they got found out? That art wasn't a coping mechanism, that's an insult to all the CSA survivors.

If you're not willing to take responsibility for the content you put out then don't share your degeneracy to begin with.
 
camopattern dijo:
Someone who was sexually abused as a child created pedophilia catering content that breeds more pedophiles to go after more children, and then killed themselves when they got found out? That art wasn't a coping mechanism, that's an insult to all the CSA survivors.
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That's exactly what therapy is for. So they can find and explore healthy outlets and coping mechanisms. Unfortunately, it does feel like furries are right next to Scientologists in their pathological fear of mental healthcare.
 
camopattern dijo:
Someone who was sexually abused as a child created pedophilia catering content that breeds more pedophiles to go after more children, and then killed themselves when they got found out? That art wasn't a coping mechanism, that's an insult to all the CSA survivors.

If you're not willing to take responsibility for the content you put out then don't share your degeneracy to begin with.
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I feel like it's worse than that. One thing I've been told by people who deal with pedophiles and their victims is that pedophilia has a tendency to spread to its victims, on top of every other destructive consequence of that shit. Once the glory of Allah has been revealed to you, you're likely to wind up with the urge to enlighten more children to His cause ever after.

Basically, it's literally cancerous and has to be treated as such.
 
camopattern dijo:
If you're not willing to take responsibility for the content you put out then don't share your degeneracy to begin with.
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This right here is a huge issue with people like SpottyJaguar, who don’t think you should have to trigger warn if you don’t want to.

If you’re going to bend over backwards to allow people to draw the worst, borderline illegal shit, let alone profit from that kind of content, at the very least you should make it as easy as possible for people to avoid. But I guess that’s asking too much.
 
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