Disaster High-Powered Explosives Have Gone Missing From The Nation’s Largest Marine Corps Base

https://breaking911.com/explosives-have-gone-missing-from-the-nations-largest-marine-corps-base/

SAN DIEGO, Calif. — A frantic search is underway for high-powered explosives that have vanished from Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center Twentynine Palms—the largest United States Marine Corps base.

Officials at the Southern California base reported the missing items to the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department last week. The Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) is also on the case.

KGTV reported: Sources report that approximately 10 pounds of Composition C-4 disappeared during a long training exercise two weeks ago. They also believe the manufactured plastic explosives may have been stolen.

The unit’s commanding officer is considering extending the training exercise until the explosives are found, sources said. They also confirm the commanding officer messaged subordinate commands about a monetary reward for any information leading to the discovery of the C-4.

Spokesperson for NCIS Public Affairs, Jeff Houston, said in a brief statement, “Out of respect for the investigative process, NCIS does not comment on or confirm details relating to ongoing investigations.”

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Not a good look...!

 

[Chan the Wizard]

Timothy McVeigh was a veteran. It’s not like it’s a new development.

 

[Meat Target]

Timothy McVeigh was a veteran. It’s not like it’s a new development.

But he used a U-Haul full of fertilizer, not stolen C4.

 

[Just_A_guy]

I guess the crayola shipment came in at the same time the explosives did.

 

[TowinKarz]

Eh I really wouldn't consider ANFO, let alone black powder, anywhere on par with C4. But as for terrorist stuff, a big enough black powder pipe bomb with some roofing nails in it works just as well as a smaller one made out of "professional" components, so... The internet exists, and we live in a modern industrial society. With all sorts of chemicals freely available in home improvement aisle, and the glowies perpetually sniffing around everyone and everything. Anyone too dumb to roll his own bombs is also too dumb to pull of a successful terrorist attack. Or at least to survive it himself to fight another day.

Now that I think about it, I think black powder is a "low explosive" unless stored in large quantities, as in, a full powder magazine.... but, yeah, point is, the potential for mayhem between six stolen bricks of C4 and a guy with a barrel of black powder isn't all that different...

It's not like they can't find where they put a MOAB....

 

[Desu Vult]

It's not like they can't find where they put a MOAB....

I hazily remember something about RAF using a WWII Tallboy as a door stopper for their base's vehicle gate for about 40 years. Thinking it was an empty shell, until someone, in the 1980s, bothered to take a good look at it and determined that it wasn't...

Imma vodkanigger and a draft dodger, and fucking proud of it. I usually don't think of the military as a self-selected fighting force it is nowadays, but rather a convention of unwilling lolcows. If there was a primordial kiwifarms back in the days of Warszaw Pact, it would be dominated by threads of said eastern bloc military. Except it would have a whole lot more of "inactive" tags, with cows dying from drinking methanol, or getting run over by a drunk tank driver, or other shit like that.

 

[CWCissey]

It's in Minecraft.

 

[northstar747]

I remember amazon had a book about semtex and the review went

"I was lonely and had no friends, I bought this book and now I have alot of friends at the FBI, who follow me around and watch me....I m soo happy"

 

[HarblMcDavid]

When I hear couple-year-old stories about MBTs accidentally driving through tent cities people are sleeping in during exercises, somehow the idea of 10lbs of high explosive going missing seems kinda on the low end of military fuckups during exercises.

 

[Cup Noodle]

Our tax dollars at work? Im starting to think the guards have legit the same intelligence as MGS guards.

Assuming the base even has guards. I went to a Army base that had a museum with my kids about 7 years ago. I was figuring on vehicle inspections and all that to get on base. Instead I rolled up on a empty guard station with open gates so I rolled on in. There weren't any signs indicating where the museum was so I drove around until I found a MP station and asked directions. When I walked in there the guy looked at me like "how the fuck did you get here" but was nice enough and gave me directions. On the way to the museum I passed a field full of soldiers doing PT. The whole time on base I didn't see one person with a gun. The only thing that I could think was that a fucking military base can be a softer target for terrorists than something like most federal buildings or the superbowl. There was a drone flying around probably performing surveillance but when you just let anyone on base I don't see that being sufficient.

 

[pwnest injun]

I wonder what the glowbies are going to blow up... Maybe a Confucius institute for a 2birds? Set up WNs while putting a finger in China's eye to focus Xi on stateside anti-government types?

 

[XYZpdq]

Assuming the base even has guards. I went to a Army base that had a museum with my kids about 7 years ago. I was figuring on vehicle inspections and all that to get on base. Instead I rolled up on a empty guard station with open gates so I rolled on in. There weren't any signs indicating where the museum was so I drove around until I found a MP station and asked directions. When I walked in there the guy looked at me like "how the fuck did you get here" but was nice enough and gave me directions. On the way to the museum I passed a field full of soldiers doing PT. The whole time on base I didn't see one person with a gun. The only thing that I could think was that a fucking military base can be a softer target for terrorists than something like most federal buildings or the superbowl. There was a drone flying around probably performing surveillance but when you just let anyone on base I don't see that being sufficient.

Similar story, one time my mom and I were wandering a civil war battlefield / forest, went down a path, walked out into the middle of the nearby military base.

 

[OG Swolemaster]

Lol its 10lb, who cares? Not enough for anyone to pull a Timmy.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

10 lbs of C-4?

Christ, that's not even a full box. That shit fell off the back of the truck and is lying in the bushes.

 

[Sam Losco]

The MGS are probably better.

They actually pay attention 24/7 and are always alert to pick up if some blonde twink in a semi bondage suit is doing cartwheels past a corridor.

As to regular guards not only do the get bored and loss focus thanks to technology their patrol pattern is just as predictable.

Ever see a circular piece of metal inside a mounting bracket by a door? Something like this:
Ver archivo adjunto 1910040
As the photo might already indicate this has to do with a security guard, more specifically it is a guard tour monitoring system. While such a system allow for varied patrols most people are lazy and will just stick to a simple circuit.

Even if you were to vary it, a mischievous Kiwi Farmer could have just done a reconnoiter of a target, observed what guard monitor sensors are used, found a similar system in use elsewhere, then switched the sensors while disabling the RFID. You would think that property owner or security guard company would replace it but that Kiwi Farmer was surprised that the guards eventually skipped that area.

lol those tags usually aren't secured either (depending on the system). You can set a password on them with your phone and it breaks the guards being able to scan it as it'll require the password before it sends it's programmed data. I'm waiting for the day I hear about the guard system being hacked because someone programmed code into the tag that opens a backdoor in the software. May not work with a system like the one pictured, but some use an app on a phone the guard carries so it's more plausible on a system like that.

 

[Andy Bandy Man]

It's probably nothing, but call me crazy, but I think heads should roll as a rule of thumb whenever ordinance is misplaced.

Like I know we half-ass the background checks, but it's probs a good idea to go back and put the other cheak into investigating whomever is on the base.

 

[Snekposter]

Its Twentynine Palms. I guarantee you a bunch of Marines stashed some C4 away for when they get what passes for leave in that absolute shithole of a desert town. Probably were also going to snag some propane tanks from the local gas station and have one hell of a weekend, or at least what passes for one there. Anywhere else and I would say it was some dumb-ass prank that caught the public's attention and the guy's going to end up on latrine duty until his tour ends, but in Twentynine Palms that shit's going to get brushed under the rug fast because if any place on Earth is shitty enough to cause a general mutiny even among Marines and their tolerance for being shat on, its Twentynine Palms. Beer and explosions are the only entertainment there. The nicest building in that town is the motel that charges by the hour. Not kidding, actually. The owners obviously take pride in their establishment and make sure that at least the exterior is clean and well-maintained. The interior is a write-off though for obvious reasons.

 

[Aidan]

I bet some paperwork got fucked up or some retard actually did lose it out in the desert. It's possible some guys stole it or something but there's a lot of "why?" involved there. Did anything ever come of the rifles being stolen at Camp Lejeune? If not, they'll never find them. I expect more of the same here.

Assuming the base even has guards. I went to a Army base that had a museum with my kids about 7 years ago. I was figuring on vehicle inspections and all that to get on base. Instead I rolled up on a empty guard station with open gates so I rolled on in. There weren't any signs indicating where the museum was so I drove around until I found a MP station and asked directions. When I walked in there the guy looked at me like "how the fuck did you get here" but was nice enough and gave me directions. On the way to the museum I passed a field full of soldiers doing PT. The whole time on base I didn't see one person with a gun. The only thing that I could think was that a fucking military base can be a softer target for terrorists than something like most federal buildings or the superbowl. There was a drone flying around probably performing surveillance but when you just let anyone on base I don't see that being sufficient.

Many US bases are pretty open to the public which is and isn't a major problem. The MIC has led to such a large civilian workforce presence all over every base, especially large ones, that it doesn't take much to get onto many of them, especially if there's any sort of event going on.
The actual secured areas have a ton of signs informing you when the point of no return is and offer no way out except through the checkpoint which will have armed guards.

 

[DeadFish]

Eh I really wouldn't consider ANFO, let alone black powder, anywhere on par with C4. But as for terrorist stuff, a big enough black powder pipe bomb with some roofing nails in it works just as well as a smaller one made out of "professional" components, so... The internet exists, and we live in a modern industrial society. With all sorts of chemicals freely available in home improvement aisle, and the glowies perpetually sniffing around everyone and everything. Anyone too dumb to roll his own bombs is also too dumb to pull of a successful terrorist attack. Or at least to survive it himself to fight another day.

You dont need guns or bombs to fuck shit up. Watch fight club and project mayhem for a few ideas.

Or the many wonderful party favors 2020 had during the summer riots. Caltrops. Arson. Blocking roads with armed activists. Paint bombs.

Let me put ot this way. Having half a crew miss ships movement cause they got lost is just as bad as blowing a hole in the hull with a bomb.

 

[Kheapathic]

This isn't anything new and not sure why it's getting so much attention; someone just didn't paperwork fuck everything hard enough to cover their ass. Happens all the time, overwhelming majority of the time you never hear anything else about it because some drunk retard and his friends go to the middle of nowhere and have some fun. But in this new day of white supremacists lurking in every corner, they're trying to scare people.

 

[Cup Noodle]

I bet some paperwork got fucked up or some retard actually did lose it out in the desert. It's possible some guys stole it or something but there's a lot of "why?" involved there. Did anything ever come of the rifles being stolen at Camp Lejeune? If not, they'll never find them. I expect more of the same here.


Many US bases are pretty open to the public which is and isn't a major problem. The MIC has led to such a large civilian workforce presence all over every base, especially large ones, that it doesn't take much to get onto many of them, especially if there's any sort of event going on.
The actual secured areas have a ton of signs informing you when the point of no return is and offer no way out except through the checkpoint which will have armed guards.

I can Imagine that there are more secure areas of the base but my problem is that the base was designed and built with checkpoints at the major entrances that are no longer staffed. If someone had been there to look at me and ask me what I was doing there I would have felt a sense of base security. In my anecdotal experience a Toyota truck full of jihadis could have rolled up and opened fire on a platoon of soldiers with zero obstacles. This is a huge base basically in the middle of nowhere and I can understand not having extensive security for the whole base, but it would seem that there should be better security for the areas that are regularly staffed. This base has a huge tank and artillery firing range that is unused now and 20 or 25 years ago some kids snuck in and stole a piece of unexploded munitions. They got caught only because they were too braggadocios. I can understand that. What I can't understand is having heavily staffed parts of the base with zero security.