💰 Grifter StoneToss (allegedly, formerly Red Panels)

[AnOminous]

Robert E. Lee was a sort of hero though, for sure by today's standards (admittedly low standards). At the least he was a leader of men and an honorable man himself.

Robert E. Lee was an honorable man put to a terrible choice. He was a citizen of both the United States and Virginia, at a time where your home state was basically your land. He had a choice of fighting for the Union (and if he had the war would have been over decisively in the Union's favor very quickly) or for Virginia. But if he chose the Union he would be committing treason against Virginia. And if he chose Virginia, he would be committing treason against the Union.

We all know what he chose, but none of the Know-Nothings of the SJW left seem to give a fuck about the why. I mean fuck moral complexity or context or understanding.

Fuck ripping down statues of that guy.

 

[“Fun”times]

Robert E. Lee was an honorable man put to a terrible choice. He was a citizen of both the United States and Virginia, at a time where your home state was basically your land. He had a choice of fighting for the Union (and if he had the war would have been over decisively in the Union's favor very quickly) or for Virginia. But if he chose the Union he would be committing treason against Virginia. And if he chose Virginia, he would be committing treason against the Union.

We all know what he chose, but none of the Know-Nothings of the SJW left seem to give a fuck about the why. I mean fuck moral complexity or context or understanding.

Fuck ripping down statues of that guy.

The problem is nuance as a concept has been forgotten. It’s easier for these midwit types to think in absolutes and regard Robert E. Lee as a racist slave owner, instead of opening a text book and seeing that he was in a very shitty situation.

 

[Marche]

Robert E. Lee was an honorable man put to a terrible choice. He was a citizen of both the United States and Virginia, at a time where your home state was basically your land. He had a choice of fighting for the Union (and if he had the war would have been over decisively in the Union's favor very quickly) or for Virginia. But if he chose the Union he would be committing treason against Virginia. And if he chose Virginia, he would be committing treason against the Union.

We all know what he chose, but none of the Know-Nothings of the SJW left seem to give a fuck about the why. I mean fuck moral complexity or context or understanding.

Fuck ripping down statues of that guy.

Thats because to them it boils down to a war over Slavery and everyone on the nazi side were pro slavery and wanted to whip coons in their huge cotton fields.

 

[AnOminous]

Thats because to them it boils down to a war over Slavery and everyone on the nazi side were pro slavery and wanted to whip coons in their huge cotton fields.

Robert E. Lee was more opposed to slavery than Abraham Lincoln.

 

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[Vinluv Handesbukia]

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[Not Even Twice]

Robert E. Lee was more opposed to slavery than Abraham Lincoln.

Don't want to derail the thread, but as a Euro that's both news and fascinating to me.
I really should read more on the American Civil War and everything leading up to it, my knowledge consists primarily of cursory curriculum in school and that tv series with Patrick Swayze in it.

 

[Rekkington]

Don't want to derail the thread, but as a Euro that's both news and fascinating to me.
I really should read more on the American Civil War and everything leading up to it, my knowledge consists primarily of cursory curriculum in school and that tv series with Patrick Swayze in it.

Here's a trusty tip for how to approach history, especially in America: if you heard it from a Female or a Jew, assume it's the opposite.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Don't want to derail the thread, but as a Euro that's both news and fascinating to me.
I really should read more on the American Civil War and everything leading up to it, my knowledge consists primarily of cursory curriculum in school and that tv series with Patrick Swayze in it.

When the southern states seceded over slavery they took their citizens with them, including those like Lee who were fairly ambivalent towards slavery. In the special case of Virginia the western part of the state seceded as West Virginia and stayed in the union. Lincoln didn't push to abolish slavery immediately since he wanted the border slave states like Kentucky to stick with the Union, and only did so once he knew victory was certain as the Union's industrial and manpower advantages came to bear.

Here's a trusty tip for how to approach history, especially in America: if you heard it from a Female or a Jew, assume it's the opposite.

After calling half of white people lying snakes on account of their sex, white nationalist wonders why they don't vote for him.

 

[Rekkington]

After calling half of white people lying snakes on account of their sex, white nationalist wonders why they don't vote for him.

I guess that's why the whole world is jew loving feminists.

 

[AltisticRight]

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Is this supposed to be funny? Is it supposed to make a compelling point? Is it supposed to have good artwork? The least you can do it nail one of those things.

Was this some kind of gotcha? I fail to see any irony or anything that's worth remote laughter?
I'm also kind of certain the target audience of Stonetoss aren't fans of PragerU. They are the idiots that think fascism is distinctively left wing when it can be both.

We all know what he chose, but none of the Know-Nothings of the SJW left seem to give a fuck about the why. I mean fuck moral complexity or context or understanding.

Fuck ripping down statues of that guy.

Wasn't there also this somebody who fought to abolish slavery in his own state but voted against a nation wide abolition because he believes the question is up to the individual states and the people in it? Fuck, his name is on the tip of my tongue.

This concept is alien to people outside of America, which is pretty funny because it's easy to understand.

 

[4str4staleatherbelt]

Since Stonetoss isn't Redpanels can the thread name and OP be changed to reflect that?

 

[biggest big boy]

Since Stonetoss isn't Redpanels can the thread name and OP be changed to reflect that?

i'm red panel

 

[Brother Wind]

Don't want to derail the thread, but as a Euro that's both news and fascinating to me.
I really should read more on the American Civil War and everything leading up to it, my knowledge consists primarily of cursory curriculum in school and that tv series with Patrick Swayze in it.

Hey now, we don't bash North & South on my watch.

Reality is, the Civil War was about State Rights. And anyone who tells you otherwise can't come to terms with that "their side" can be the bad guys. Because while that state right was slavery, if it was fully about slavery then you just wouldn't have the same break up of states. You wouldn't have the same officers, you wouldn't have the same war.

 

[Nobue]

The problem is nuance as a concept has been forgotten. It’s easier for these midwit types to think in absolutes and regard Robert E. Lee as a racist slave owner, instead of opening a text book and seeing that he was in a very shitty situation.

They can't lump their enemies into dehumanized groups and get everybody to help abuse them if people take the time to exercise actual empathy.

 

[waffle]

Hey now, we don't bash North & South on my watch.

Reality is, the Civil War was about State Rights. And anyone who tells you otherwise can't come to terms with that "their side" can be the bad guys. Because while that state right was slavery, if it was fully about slavery then you just wouldn't have the same break up of states. You wouldn't have the same officers, you wouldn't have the same war.

The civil war was so much more than what they teach kids in school. For instance Missouri basically had it's own side-show civil war based on a combination of pre-existing local tension with Kansas and the federal government attempting to disolve the state government and appoint their own governor and legislature that was more pro Union

 

[Rekkington]

It they just kept slavery they could have just slowly phased them out once people figured out cotton was stupid and who gives a shit, and then just put them where we put all the old Palmpilots.

 

[Goodbye Horses]

and then just put them where we put all the old Palmpilots.

Ship them to Ghana to be burned in huge piles then have children pick through the ashes for precious metals?

 

[Rekkington]

Ship them to Ghana to be burned in huge piles then have children pick through the ashes for precious metals?

Hey look, in the world of business I'm just saying we err on the side of what's proven.

 

[AnOminous]

Lincoln didn't push to abolish slavery immediately since he wanted the border slave states like Kentucky to stick with the Union, and only did so once he knew victory was certain as the Union's industrial and manpower advantages came to bear.

He was very unambiguous that no matter his personal opinion, his loyalty to the Union itself was what was paramount and he would have adopted any policy regarding slavery that preserved it. "If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union."

It they just kept slavery they could have just slowly phased them out once people figured out cotton was stupid and who gives a shit, and then just put them where we put all the old Palmpilots.

Cotton was one of our biggest cash crops at the time (the other being tobacco). Part of why the South believed they could win was that they believed they could exploit their economic resources to get funded by England and France. The disruption in the cotton trade actually caused serious global impacts. The South was essentially doomed when the North was able successfully to blockade the cotton trade and deter the European powers from entering on the side of the South.